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Originally posted by bhall43
How does the audible work anyways? You get sacked once and it makes the blocking TE stay in? Twice? Three times? Only on certain situations? The concept just seems pretty fucking retarded in the first place.



vision check by QB

if x player is blitzing and you pass vision check the QB will hold in a blocker

and yes it works

Originally posted by cavalier
I definitely agree. I can't see a reason why it would break the sim as long as some key things are limited

- No movement of offensive linemen
- No movement of WRs
- Free placement of HB/FB within the backfield as blockers.
- Able to move the TE to both sides of the line
- Predetermined routes to select from


I dont think "free placement" is a good idea for backfield blockers. There should be predetermined sets.

Originally posted by bhall43
I dont think "free placement" is a good idea for backfield blockers. There should be predetermined sets.

I agree. They need to just improve HB/FB blocking AI.

Originally posted by 5STAR
vision check by QB

if x player is blitzing and you pass vision check the QB will hold in a blocker

and yes it works

So if a player is blitzing from the left side and I have TE set to audible. A vision check is passed and the TE blocks left?

Also I know that blitzing from farther away makes the Oline logic fucking screwy...so I have a hard time believing that this works correctly.

Originally posted by taurran
Originally posted by bhall43

I dont think "free placement" is a good idea for backfield blockers. There should be predetermined sets.

I agree. They need to just improve HB/FB blocking AI.

or add hot routes to WRs

give the WR a vision check to see the blitz if he sees it he can change route to slant or some shit like that

Originally posted by taurran
I agree. They need to just improve HB/FB blocking AI.

just seems like it would be a ton easier to code in predetermined sets on offense rather than guys anywhere in the backfield. Would lead to far less exploits anyways.

Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by 5STAR

vision check by QB

if x player is blitzing and you pass vision check the QB will hold in a blocker

and yes it works

So if a player is blitzing from the left side and I have TE set to audible. A vision check is passed and the TE blocks left?

Also I know that blitzing from farther away makes the Oline logic fucking screwy...so I have a hard time believing that this works correctly.

no he wont move to left

but even on HB/FB/TE primary routes if QB passes blitz vision check those guys will stay in and block

it doesnt really do shit for the weakside overload blitz stuff but if does work as coded

I have had pass plays designed for the FB get fucked because the FB was audibled in to block

Originally posted by 5STAR
or add hot routes to WRs

give the WR a vision check to see the blitz if he sees it he can change route to slant or some shit like that

Creative Route Running? XD

Originally posted by 5STAR
no he wont move to left

but even on HB/FB/TE primary routes if QB passes blitz vision check those guys will stay in and block

it doesnt really do shit for the weakside overload blitz stuff but if does work as coded

I have had pass plays designed for the FB get fucked because the FB was audibled in to block

shits jive man.

Originally posted by StoutOne DTD
How so?

There's 5 Blockers and 6 Pass Rushers....the 6th Pass Rusher has a straight shot to the QB. Not to mention the offense was only going for deep passes which take a long time to develop compared to how long it takes #6 to get in the backfield.

shotgun - quick release? lol... Or do you think any time a defense sends 6 vs a shotgun formation they get a sack? lol

Originally posted by bhall43
I dont think "free placement" is a good idea for backfield blockers. There should be predetermined sets.

I agree. The point is that you should have some degree of flexibility to make the blitzing game more entertaining than it is now. Watch a football game and you see a myriad of different blitz plays, watch a GLB season and you see the same three plays over and over again.

Originally posted by 5STAR
keep extra blockers in

run the ball

stay out of predictable downs

this is not flag football...if it is 3rd and long and the defense decides to go heavy blitz you deserve to be sacked



To be fair, nothing should always work including 3rd and long blitzing. In normal football, if a team is blitzing from the same gap every time, the QB would occasionally audible an extra blocker and change the protection or if he didn't want to change it, he could automatically roll to the other side to complete a short pass or have the HB/FB/TE normally blocking slip into the hole in the defense.

I guess GLB's big problem the past 6 seasons is that something always works. I mean, it was like that the first 10 seasons where teams had different identities, builds and tactics but i don't think we knew enough about the sim and the mechanics to fully take advantage and it was the only reason that happened. If someone were to go back, they could destroy the sim even worse back then. It's just too easy these days for regular WLers to find the holes in bort's coding. Not necessarily with unstoppable glitches (this blitz isn't one) but with things that obviously work best or things that are obviously a bit screwy from a football standpoint.

When it'll change? Who knows

Can a running brotha get the pistol formation and option plays determined by vision checks?

I think what happened is when bort went in and rigged the blaze game to give our entire team negative streaky he only did it for regular season/preseason games (see alpine loss) and when we play scrimmages we crush or play very tough anyways..
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1417254

Just lost by 3 to the champs... Pretty sure its just bort never removed the code that he put in place when he ninja'd the alpine game

Put on your tin foil hats.