Warrior General Games

Originally posted by No Fear
Yes, back on topic...I have dropped all my GM positions on other Gold teams! The only one I GM for is mine, the NOPW. Now that we got that out the way, you can rest easy that I am in no way plotting with anyone else on trying to beat your team!

I can tell you this though...we are having a Give Gerr a nickname thread on our team forum. Will let you know what it is when we decide the winning name!

I don't really see how you can dislike Gerr's idea so much... I knew some info last season on how to beat a few teams and I gave the info out and they beat X team using my ideas, I was apart of the team, and pretty much just was able to "test" an al then let the other team in on some "hints" if it worked... So for instance here is an example... You are the HC/Owner for SBWL and the HC for AC Surf, and you OC for both. You completely demolish another team through exploited plays with one them then say in a few games you play the same team (with the other team) you will most likely just use that exact same al. How does this make running a team fun? When you already pretty much know you will beat a team because you were able to test the al out with another team then once you found out it works you just use it with your own team. Gold is dog eat dog so how can you say that OCing or DCing for more than one team doesn't give you an advantage over certain teams that you play more than once.

Originally posted by gruppo

You can keep your elitism to yourself. Your idea is complete fail, suggesting that someone who has spent a ton of flex on a team over the course of seasons has to be removed from a team because they have sucess.





Not to speak for Gerr, but how does this make sense? The guy that OCs for two teams in the same division (Doesn't have to own a player or own the team) doesn't have to spend any flex. The point Gerr is making is that these teams only have sucess because of the staff that they brought on to help them. (Like brining on a gold coach to coach and team in copper, then silver, then gold even though they are in the same division) How do you see this as fair/good for the elite Pee Wee league? How many World League teams do you see that have a guy that coaches two teams in the same division?

well first i don't care at all about WL.i'm guessing you don't see shared coaches because its more of a weakness for the teams that share coaches.
Second, every team is only sucessful because of the staff.
Third, if someone OC's 2 teams you have twice as much material to scout them.
and lastly, i don't see it as bad for peewee, maybe a bad choice for individual teams.
The rule would only stop teams that have friends they don't want to drop(us) and let teams still have coaches of their choice, multi's, sneaking someone on a team right before a playoff game after they've been eliminated, etc...

I was in Silver when me and LE traded services! I said it was fine for Gold coaches to help Copper and Silver teams, but that once they reach Gold, those teams need to stand on their own merit, not rely on another coach. If that Gold coach was good, he would have given that team he brought to Gold all the stuff they need to compete in Gold without his help. The main point of this is so that each Gold team has a unique coaching staff and thus each Gold team is unique in their tactics. It's no fun facing the same style of coaching over and over.

And I never meant for this to get out of hand. I was only pointing out a problem I saw in Gold and was opening it up for discussion to see if a solution could be found and to gauge people's interest. Instead, people jumped all over me, calling me names, saying I was a hypocrite, and stuff like that. It was never my intention to gain such bad blood, only to discuss a potential problem I saw.

So lets try to lighten up and not jump to any radical conclusions or actions.

Originally posted by gruppo
well first i don't care at all about WL.i'm guessing you don't see shared coaches because its more of a weakness for the teams that share coaches.
Second, every team is only sucessful because of the staff.
Third, if someone OC's 2 teams you have twice as much material to scout them.
and lastly, i don't see it as bad for peewee, maybe a bad choice for individual teams.
The rule would only stop teams that have friends they don't want to drop(us) and let teams still have coaches of their choice, multi's, sneaking someone on a team right before a playoff game after they've been eliminated, etc...

So at the end of your post you are pretty much just saying you want to be terrible at GLB and never try anything on your own? The only way to learn is to go through the hardships (dropping) Why would this be called a game if all you did was pay for a team and let someone else run it. Where does the aspect of this is a game come into play? Why would you pay to let someone do everything for you? Why not learn on your own, and if you can't cut it yourself in the league let someone else in and you drop to silver and learn more.

SBWL- Pass Heavy, Run only when we have to, play great DF
AC Surf- I don't know what the hell Deertag is up to play great DF

Damn it you made me lose my worst recruiter Gerr!!!!

I would get rid of my GM spot for NOPW but screw that I've been with them since they started, I deserve a GM tag.

Yea sorry about all my rants on this page, but some of you need to lighten up and remember that this is a game. There is no more to be said about this unless it actually contributes to the OP... If not you will see some more lolrants by me and probably Gerr

Gerr ,for hypocrite i'm sorry.it's hard to see someones point of view, sometimes on forum boards.It just makes it lame for the surly GOATS because I'd rather not tell a friend they can't be a part of the final goal of the team(win gold league) after they've been apart of it for the wholetime.

I saw our team in the first group of teams. It just bummed me out because in this scenario it makes it like, I drop mccollums who, i played on his crabs team all the way through to gold league gold. Then he retired them and i started th Goats. He has been helping all the way from day 1. he built alot of players(spent flex on the team).Part of the fun of this game is build discussions and the friends you make. I just think it would detract from my experience in this game to be told who can and can't help my team.I fully understand the conflict, but i think its more akward for the teams that share the coach.I'm not even worried about that though. i doubt most peewee owners could even tell who does what and how much for every team. My team is in this scenario and i know nothing of what TO's are doing or intends to do, and I'm willing to bet that they know little to nothing about us yet.

Originally posted by The Greatest DTD
Originally posted by gruppo

well first i don't care at all about WL.i'm guessing you don't see shared coaches because its more of a weakness for the teams that share coaches.
Second, every team is only sucessful because of the staff.
Third, if someone OC's 2 teams you have twice as much material to scout them.
and lastly, i don't see it as bad for peewee, maybe a bad choice for individual teams.
The rule would only stop teams that have friends they don't want to drop(us) and let teams still have coaches of their choice, multi's, sneaking someone on a team right before a playoff game after they've been eliminated, etc...

So at the end of your post you are pretty much just saying you want to be terrible at GLB and never try anything on your own? The only way to learn is to go through the hardships (dropping) Why would this be called a game if all you did was pay for a team and let someone else run it. Where does the aspect of this is a game come into play? Why would you pay to let someone do everything for you? Why not learn on your own, and if you can't cut it yourself in the league let someone else in and you drop to silver and learn more.

where did i ever say anything about not wanting to try anything on my own? I can't even follow your logic on that. I don't let anybody run my team like your implying.

Originally posted by gruppo
Gerr ,for hypocrite i'm sorry.it's hard to see someones point of view, sometimes on forum boards.It just makes it lame for the surly GOATS because I'd rather not tell a friend they can't be a part of the final goal of the team(win gold league) after they've been apart of it for the wholetime.

I saw our team in the first group of teams. It just bummed me out because in this scenario it makes it like, I drop mccollums who, i played on his crabs team all the way through to gold league gold. Then he retired them and i started th Goats. He has been helping all the way from day 1. he built alot of players(spent flex on the team).Part of the fun of this game is build discussions and the friends you make. I just think it would detract from my experience in this game to be told who can and can't help my team.I fully understand the conflict, but i think its more akward for the teams that share the coach.I'm not even worried about that though. i doubt most peewee owners could even tell who does what and how much for every team. My team is in this scenario and i know nothing of what TO's are doing or intends to do, and I'm willing to bet that they know little to nothing about us yet.

I am sure Gerr was more referring to those who OC or DC for more than one team in the same division/league. Build guides are no secret everyone can see them on any team... I love to talk things over like that with other agents/owners it makes the game fun, but what Gerr is trying to get at (I think) is that X agent shouldn't run 3 teams in the same division... (Whats the fun in that)

Originally posted by gruppo
where did i ever say anything about not wanting to try anything on my own? I can't even follow your logic on that. I don't let anybody run my team like your implying.

I not talking about just you...More a post for the whole... If you run your O and D more power to you I am referring to the guys that OC/DC more than one team, and the owner really does nothing except for build dots and recruit.

"The rule would only stop teams that have friends they don't want to drop(us)"

"The rule would only stop teams that have friends they don't want to drop(us)"

yea that made little sense, i meant it would force teams to drop coaches, even if they been on the team a longtime, playing by the rules and get to gold. It wouldn't stop anyone from actually helping out another team .

Also i dont buy the passing of how to beat a team from one team to another. if the team that lost, lost by an exploit or hole and didn't fix it, they'll lose alot of games regardless of who the coaches are. scouting?!?!

Originally posted by gruppo
"The rule would only stop teams that have friends they don't want to drop(us)"

yea that made little sense, i meant it would force teams to drop coaches, even if they been on the team a longtime, playing by the rules and get to gold. It wouldn't stop anyone from actually helping out another team .

Also i dont buy the passing of how to beat a team from one team to another. if the team that lost, lost by an exploit or hole and didn't fix it, they'll lose alot of games regardless of who the coaches are. scouting?!?!

Yes, but you pretty much can "test" an al when you play them. I know a gold team that left plays exposed last season (And someone who just played them told the OC exactly what to run to win and they won) and they lost a tourney game because of it.

Edit: At the first part, you could drop them to lolgm?

Gerr is trying to get across the fact that once a team reaches gold that agent who helped them there should step down and the owner should have learned everything that he could from him to compete himself.

i'm not saying anything about lolgm's. He's a part of the team.

i wasn't in gold last season, only had players here and i know some teams that didn't change ai too. thats not a secret. it's all in the sims.

i'm trying to get across i disagree, but whatever, do what you like if you can. It should start at the copper level then so you know right away not after you've planned and worked on something for 2 plus seasons.