Juke is even worse. I had it at 17 for one of my players and never once saw it activate in half a season. And yeah i agree that to just stealth nerf spin is simply wrong
Originally posted by Iwan Owen Juke is even worse. I had it at 17 for one of my players and never once saw it activate in half a season. And yeah i agree that to just stealth nerf spin is simply wrong
lol, must have had some shitty supporting attributes then....you know it doesn't show up in the play text, right?
I didn't do Week 1 because it was a 255-0 blowout.
So looking at his detailed game log and pbp where Spin fired, it does appear this dude is successfully getting Spin to activate quite a bit.
30 times in 9 games against very good competition is pretty good results. Basically fires 3.33 times a game.
I would say it appears that it is working well - but the other thing I would add to this comment is that Shaw looks to be a Combo back - where he has Strength well over 75 (helps break tackle %) and has Power SA's (I see Power Thru fire quite a bit for him too). I am guessing that his build helps Spin fire a lot more than the Elusive backs who all have a lot lower break tackle %'s?
If someone wants me to do the same breakdown using a 'Pure Elusive' build with High Spin... I would be willing to do it. I just think PML97 has a great build for Season 13's sim and is getting higher Spin results than most of the other players I have been watching.
Ok.. If it is only activating about 3x per competitive game, then it should probably give a flat bonus to breaking tackles, like the Power SAs are supposed to.
If you read the Power SAs, it says that they give a bonus to the SA activating and a bonus to breaking tackles.
If Spin is just another break tackle SA (on the wrong row), then it should include another bonus to it, like the others.
Originally posted by StoutOne Originally posted by Iwan Owen
Juke is even worse. I had it at 17 for one of my players and never once saw it activate in half a season. And yeah i agree that to just stealth nerf spin is simply wrong
lol, must have had some shitty supporting attributes then....you know it doesn't show up in the play text, right?
Wasn`t the best build ever but wasn`t terrible. He was a WR and he never seemed to Juke anyone, and yeah i know it doesn`t show in the text
Originally posted by Bukowski Ok.. If it is only activating about 3x per competitive game, then it should probably give a flat bonus to breaking tackles, like the Power SAs are supposed to.
If you read the Power SAs, it says that they give a bonus to the SA activating and a bonus to breaking tackles.
If Spin is just another break tackle SA (on the wrong row), then it should include another bonus to it, like the others.
Originally posted by blln4lyf Originally posted by Bukowski
Ok.. If it is only activating about 3x per competitive game, then it should probably give a flat bonus to breaking tackles, like the Power SAs are supposed to.
If you read the Power SAs, it says that they give a bonus to the SA activating and a bonus to breaking tackles.
If Spin is just another break tackle SA (on the wrong row), then it should include another bonus to it, like the others.
Spin also doesn't = auto BT.
Exactly. So an added bonus to tackle breaking ability, would also help it activate successfully.
Man, conspiracy theories are out in full force lately...is there something in the water 'round here?
No, spin has not been touched in several months. If it had, it would be in the changelog, just like anything else I might have changed. Play outcomes vary. That is the definition of random, not a conspiracy.
Originally posted by Bort Man, conspiracy theories are out in full force lately...is there something in the water 'round here?
No, spin has not been touched in several months. If it had, it would be in the changelog, just like anything else I might have changed. Play outcomes vary. That is the definition of random, not a conspiracy.
Not the water... its just that you never post here anymore and when you don't then anything goes because this game is so secretive....
When you have issues like the FB issue being discussed and it turns out it was the result of something else being changed it tends to make people wonder. Just because it wasn't supposed to be changed doesn't mean it wasn't.
Originally posted by CinTex Not the water... its just that you never post here anymore and when you don't then anything goes because this game is so secretive....
Good to see you in the real forums....
I don't mind conversing, but I hardly ever have the time to sift through all the crap that gets posted any more...80 page threads are not exactly easy reading. And every time I log on and start reading forums, especially if I'm replying, I end up being on for 5-6 hours doing nothing but that. Those hours could be better spent actually getting something done, such as looking at a bug or adding a new feature. I get more done when I have others help me boil it down to snippets, and have them relay info back to you (which is a common suggestion I have seen: "get others to help relay info for you.") Guys like PP and hazy are happy to do that, and are trustworthy sources.
Also, all the negativity does tend to get very tiresome after a point. I'd rather just use my time effectively, and read the pertinent points. and not have to read 50 posts about how the testers, mods, and I are all idiots in the middle.