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Originally posted by Whatsdafus
LMAO dallas death beat the storm
Who called that one...oh wait I did.
LMAO dallas death beat the storm
Who called that one...oh wait I did.
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Originally posted by Cerneo
Originally posted by jearly
Originally posted by Cerneo
Probowl Selections:
Running Back:
Iowa Jones: Helping his team not only close out games all year but also to keep the defense tired for all four quarters, why leading the league in rushing, and holding a 100+ YPG in the past 8 games. Even why giving up 193 carries and 9 TDs to the second back be still rushed over 410 times this year. Heart and soul of the team not much more should be taken account in pro bowl selection.
Guard:
Crne Quam: With almost 100 pancakes on the year and the best rushing attack in the league this is your strong side anchor.
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fyi - you don't have the best rushing attack in your conference, let alone the league and Hodges did not lead the league in rushing.
Cry more?
Please. I don't even have a horse in the race. In the West alone, I'll take Tallahassee rushing attack over yours.
Originally posted by jearly
Originally posted by Cerneo
Probowl Selections:
Running Back:
Iowa Jones: Helping his team not only close out games all year but also to keep the defense tired for all four quarters, why leading the league in rushing, and holding a 100+ YPG in the past 8 games. Even why giving up 193 carries and 9 TDs to the second back be still rushed over 410 times this year. Heart and soul of the team not much more should be taken account in pro bowl selection.
Guard:
Crne Quam: With almost 100 pancakes on the year and the best rushing attack in the league this is your strong side anchor.
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fyi - you don't have the best rushing attack in your conference, let alone the league and Hodges did not lead the league in rushing.
Cry more?
Please. I don't even have a horse in the race. In the West alone, I'll take Tallahassee rushing attack over yours.
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Originally posted by jearly
Originally posted by Cerneo
Originally posted by jearly
Originally posted by Cerneo
Probowl Selections:
Running Back:
Iowa Jones: Helping his team not only close out games all year but also to keep the defense tired for all four quarters, why leading the league in rushing, and holding a 100+ YPG in the past 8 games. Even why giving up 193 carries and 9 TDs to the second back be still rushed over 410 times this year. Heart and soul of the team not much more should be taken account in pro bowl selection.
Guard:
Crne Quam: With almost 100 pancakes on the year and the best rushing attack in the league this is your strong side anchor.
.
fyi - you don't have the best rushing attack in your conference, let alone the league and Hodges did not lead the league in rushing.
Cry more?
Please. I don't even have a horse in the race. In the West alone, I'll take Tallahassee rushing attack over yours.
Sorry will post more after we win the game.
Originally posted by Cerneo
Originally posted by jearly
Originally posted by Cerneo
Probowl Selections:
Running Back:
Iowa Jones: Helping his team not only close out games all year but also to keep the defense tired for all four quarters, why leading the league in rushing, and holding a 100+ YPG in the past 8 games. Even why giving up 193 carries and 9 TDs to the second back be still rushed over 410 times this year. Heart and soul of the team not much more should be taken account in pro bowl selection.
Guard:
Crne Quam: With almost 100 pancakes on the year and the best rushing attack in the league this is your strong side anchor.
.
fyi - you don't have the best rushing attack in your conference, let alone the league and Hodges did not lead the league in rushing.
Cry more?
Please. I don't even have a horse in the race. In the West alone, I'll take Tallahassee rushing attack over yours.
Sorry will post more after we win the game.
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As Eric Wolfe's agent I appericate the love. He is a mean FB and just loves to hit someone in the mouth, much like his agent.
Cerneo
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Originally posted by lawdawg95
Ballot in from Chicago MB
Just use my picks from O will do D later on tomorrow.
Ballot in from Chicago MB
Just use my picks from O will do D later on tomorrow.
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Originally posted by jearly
Originally posted by Cerneo
Originally posted by jearly
Originally posted by Cerneo
Probowl Selections:
Running Back:
Iowa Jones: Helping his team not only close out games all year but also to keep the defense tired for all four quarters, why leading the league in rushing, and holding a 100+ YPG in the past 8 games. Even why giving up 193 carries and 9 TDs to the second back be still rushed over 410 times this year. Heart and soul of the team not much more should be taken account in pro bowl selection.
Guard:
Crne Quam: With almost 100 pancakes on the year and the best rushing attack in the league this is your strong side anchor.
.
fyi - you don't have the best rushing attack in your conference, let alone the league and Hodges did not lead the league in rushing.
Cry more?
Please. I don't even have a horse in the race. In the West alone, I'll take Tallahassee rushing attack over yours.
I appreciate the love for our rushing attack. There are plenty of dangerous two punch backfields in the league. Nobody I have seen has a three headed monster like us. Put those guys behind the best FB in the league with a great O-line and its hard to stop all 4 quarters.
Originally posted by Cerneo
Originally posted by jearly
Originally posted by Cerneo
Probowl Selections:
Running Back:
Iowa Jones: Helping his team not only close out games all year but also to keep the defense tired for all four quarters, why leading the league in rushing, and holding a 100+ YPG in the past 8 games. Even why giving up 193 carries and 9 TDs to the second back be still rushed over 410 times this year. Heart and soul of the team not much more should be taken account in pro bowl selection.
Guard:
Crne Quam: With almost 100 pancakes on the year and the best rushing attack in the league this is your strong side anchor.
.
fyi - you don't have the best rushing attack in your conference, let alone the league and Hodges did not lead the league in rushing.
Cry more?
Please. I don't even have a horse in the race. In the West alone, I'll take Tallahassee rushing attack over yours.
I appreciate the love for our rushing attack. There are plenty of dangerous two punch backfields in the league. Nobody I have seen has a three headed monster like us. Put those guys behind the best FB in the league with a great O-line and its hard to stop all 4 quarters.
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Originally posted by silverandblackattack
Originally posted by redwolfe11
Originally posted by Whatsdafus
are you guys hating my picks yet?
I see one glaring ommission. You posted...
G - These two guys dominated the pancake scene.... and there is no one i would pick over them.
G1 - Jack Brimmstone. Caribbean Sphere
G2 - Steven McKenzie. San Francisco Stonecutters
Lets take a look at the "doimination" of the pncake scene...
Jack Brimmstone - 75 pancakes
Steve McKenzie - 103 pancakes
Did you not see Log Pincher? He has 107 pancakes in 40 less snaps than Steve. Jack had less opportunities than either but has more than 30 pancakes less than Pincher. He is the top guard in the league hands down. He got that many pancakes on a pass heavy team as well so he would have had a lot more if we pounded it more often.
#1 Guard in the whole conference = Log Pincher
Vladimir is pretty sick from the east, but Log Pincehr is the best in the west.
The only problem with Log Pincher is that he boosted at the beginning of the season I think. He gained 3 levels on his opponents who waited to boost which would have padded his pancake stats. Besides pancakes are a misleading stat because it mostly has to do with playing a weaker opponent and not so much about how good you are. I have 5 lineman on other teams and I know that weak opponents is what creates pancakes.
Okay - I have to defend my man (Log Pincher). He did boost before the first game (I think that many players in this league did so) - but I don't think we should penalize people for boosting, or boosting at the time that they chose to do it. If so, we should make our Pro Bowl team out of pure, Vestal Virginal players who have not sullied themselves with the stain of boosting (of course the team would suck). Did anyone wait to boost until the end of the year?
As far as the pancakes go - it's not meaningless (it does hurt opponent's morale) but it is overrated. It is the only stat we have other than offensive production. Tallahassee was #1 in passing yards, #1 in passing TDs, tied for last in Ints (47 Tds, 8 Ints), first in yds/attemot and yds/completion, highest completion %, last in hurries allowed, and tied for last in sacks relinquished. BTW, we were first in rushing yards by almost 25 yds/game and led the division in scoring. We were far and away the most dominating offense in the division.
Now as far as your claim that pancakes get racked up against weak opponents - this is true as well. The problem is that we all played the same opponents (except for the last game where Log had only 3 pancakes - so he didn't exactly load up there). Since we all played the same weak opponents, doesn't that make the playing field level?
Vote for whomever you please, but it's simply not true that Log had some unfair advantage over all the other guards in the league. With the exact same competition and the exact same opportunity to boost it could hardly be more fair. I don't care if it's my guy who makes the roster, but I do think any Pro-Bowl offense from the West that doesn't have at least one Seminole on the line is incomplete.
Originally posted by redwolfe11
Originally posted by Whatsdafus
are you guys hating my picks yet?
I see one glaring ommission. You posted...
G - These two guys dominated the pancake scene.... and there is no one i would pick over them.
G1 - Jack Brimmstone. Caribbean Sphere
G2 - Steven McKenzie. San Francisco Stonecutters
Lets take a look at the "doimination" of the pncake scene...
Jack Brimmstone - 75 pancakes
Steve McKenzie - 103 pancakes
Did you not see Log Pincher? He has 107 pancakes in 40 less snaps than Steve. Jack had less opportunities than either but has more than 30 pancakes less than Pincher. He is the top guard in the league hands down. He got that many pancakes on a pass heavy team as well so he would have had a lot more if we pounded it more often.
#1 Guard in the whole conference = Log Pincher
Vladimir is pretty sick from the east, but Log Pincehr is the best in the west.
The only problem with Log Pincher is that he boosted at the beginning of the season I think. He gained 3 levels on his opponents who waited to boost which would have padded his pancake stats. Besides pancakes are a misleading stat because it mostly has to do with playing a weaker opponent and not so much about how good you are. I have 5 lineman on other teams and I know that weak opponents is what creates pancakes.
Okay - I have to defend my man (Log Pincher). He did boost before the first game (I think that many players in this league did so) - but I don't think we should penalize people for boosting, or boosting at the time that they chose to do it. If so, we should make our Pro Bowl team out of pure, Vestal Virginal players who have not sullied themselves with the stain of boosting (of course the team would suck). Did anyone wait to boost until the end of the year?
As far as the pancakes go - it's not meaningless (it does hurt opponent's morale) but it is overrated. It is the only stat we have other than offensive production. Tallahassee was #1 in passing yards, #1 in passing TDs, tied for last in Ints (47 Tds, 8 Ints), first in yds/attemot and yds/completion, highest completion %, last in hurries allowed, and tied for last in sacks relinquished. BTW, we were first in rushing yards by almost 25 yds/game and led the division in scoring. We were far and away the most dominating offense in the division.
Now as far as your claim that pancakes get racked up against weak opponents - this is true as well. The problem is that we all played the same opponents (except for the last game where Log had only 3 pancakes - so he didn't exactly load up there). Since we all played the same weak opponents, doesn't that make the playing field level?
Vote for whomever you please, but it's simply not true that Log had some unfair advantage over all the other guards in the league. With the exact same competition and the exact same opportunity to boost it could hardly be more fair. I don't care if it's my guy who makes the roster, but I do think any Pro-Bowl offense from the West that doesn't have at least one Seminole on the line is incomplete.
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I need to take a closer look at all the players but I have a few homer picks off the top of my head...
Big Tuna is a lock for the 1st team QB slot.
I think Renegade Nole could make a case for 2nd team HB. Leading the west for avg yards per carry. Boosted late and has averaged well over that over our last few games.
Eric Wolfe is a lock for 1st team FB.
Wayne Weezy is 2nd or 3rd team WR. I think any one of our WRs could be 1st team locks if our depth was not so good. THeir stats are spread out between 4 or 5 guys instead of other teams that have one main target. We have 3 WRs in the top 5 for TDs in the league.
Log Pincher is a lock for 1st team guard. Leading the conference in pancakes in the #1 rushing attack.
Bangs McCoy is a first teamer at Center.
Everyone of our OL deserve to be at least 2nd or 3rd team to be honest with you. I wish it showed how many sacks a player has given up so we could quantify our tackle play. Our OTs dont get very many pancakes. Our team has the fewest sacks and fewest hurries in the league.
I am not sure if we have any first round locks on defense. If you look at the league stats for defensive players we do not really have anyone that stands out above the rest. Two factors are playing into this. For one, we have the fewest defensive snaps of any team in the league = fewer opportunities for stats. Second, we have depth and rotate more than most team = stats are evenly distributed. Its a shame because i think talent wise we have a few first teamers. Our entire secondary should be the starting Pro-Bowl secondary. Lets take a look at Wester Conference Stats.
2nd in points allowed (6.6 a game)
2nd in yards allowed (197.9 a game)
1st in passing yards (145.3 a game)
5th in rushing yards (53 per game)
Fewest Defensive plays (83.1 plays per game) = defense gets off the field quickly.
Our Offense Dominates The Statistics and is the #1 in the league. Check out these stats...
Rushing
#1 in rushing yard
#1 in yards per rush
#1 in yards per game
#2 in rushing TDs
Passing
#1 in passing yards
#1 in completion percentage
#1 in yards per attempt
#1 in yards per completion
#1 in TDs (more than 2x the 2nd place team)
Fewest interceptions
Fewest sacks
Fewest hurries
Now I will take off my rose colored glasses and take an objective look at all the positions.
Big Tuna is a lock for the 1st team QB slot.
I think Renegade Nole could make a case for 2nd team HB. Leading the west for avg yards per carry. Boosted late and has averaged well over that over our last few games.
Eric Wolfe is a lock for 1st team FB.
Wayne Weezy is 2nd or 3rd team WR. I think any one of our WRs could be 1st team locks if our depth was not so good. THeir stats are spread out between 4 or 5 guys instead of other teams that have one main target. We have 3 WRs in the top 5 for TDs in the league.
Log Pincher is a lock for 1st team guard. Leading the conference in pancakes in the #1 rushing attack.
Bangs McCoy is a first teamer at Center.
Everyone of our OL deserve to be at least 2nd or 3rd team to be honest with you. I wish it showed how many sacks a player has given up so we could quantify our tackle play. Our OTs dont get very many pancakes. Our team has the fewest sacks and fewest hurries in the league.
I am not sure if we have any first round locks on defense. If you look at the league stats for defensive players we do not really have anyone that stands out above the rest. Two factors are playing into this. For one, we have the fewest defensive snaps of any team in the league = fewer opportunities for stats. Second, we have depth and rotate more than most team = stats are evenly distributed. Its a shame because i think talent wise we have a few first teamers. Our entire secondary should be the starting Pro-Bowl secondary. Lets take a look at Wester Conference Stats.
2nd in points allowed (6.6 a game)
2nd in yards allowed (197.9 a game)
1st in passing yards (145.3 a game)
5th in rushing yards (53 per game)
Fewest Defensive plays (83.1 plays per game) = defense gets off the field quickly.
Our Offense Dominates The Statistics and is the #1 in the league. Check out these stats...
Rushing
#1 in rushing yard
#1 in yards per rush
#1 in yards per game
#2 in rushing TDs
Passing
#1 in passing yards
#1 in completion percentage
#1 in yards per attempt
#1 in yards per completion
#1 in TDs (more than 2x the 2nd place team)
Fewest interceptions
Fewest sacks
Fewest hurries
Now I will take off my rose colored glasses and take an objective look at all the positions.
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