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14:13 1st & 10 OWN 28.5 James Sargent rush [missed tackle: Sampson GooglieEyes] up the middle (4 yd gain) [tackle: Willy Walnuts] Replay
13:49 2nd & 6 OWN 32.5 James Sargent rush up the middle (4 yd gain) [diving tackle: Phil McCrakin] Replay
13:10 3rd & 2 OWN 36.5 James Sargent rush up the middle (4.5 yd gain) [tackle: Ken "The Devil" Risk] Replay
12:44 1st & 10 OWN 41 James Sargent rush up the middle (4 yd gain) [tackle: Willy Walnuts] Replay
12:10 2nd & 6 OWN 44.5 James Sargent rush up the middle (3.5 yd gain) [tackle: Willy Walnuts] Replay
11:32 3rd & 2.5 OWN 48 James Sargent rush [missed tackle: Ken "The Devil" Risk] up the middle (4 yd gain) [Big Hit tackle: Willy Walnuts] Replay
10:56 1st & 10 OPP 47.5 James Sargent rush [missed tackle: Matt Donnelly] up the middle (5.5 yd gain) [tackle: Mr. Phildo] Replay
10:24 2nd & 4.5 OPP 42.5 James Sargent rush up the middle (5 yd gain) [tackle: Willy Walnuts] Replay
9:56 1st & 10 OPP 37.5 James Sargent rush up the middle (3 yd gain) [tackle: Blair Bines] Replay
9:22 2nd & 7 OPP 34 James Sargent rush up the middle (2.5 yd gain) [tackle: Willy Walnuts] Replay
9:00 3rd & 4.5 OPP 31.5 James Sargent rush to the right (2.5 yd gain) [Monster Hit tackle: Willy Walnuts] Replay
8:27 4th & 2 OPP 29.5 James Sargent rush to the right (4 yd gain) [tackle: Mr. Phildo] Replay
7:57 1st & 10 OPP 25.5 James Sargent rush [missed tackle: Sampson GooglieEyes (Lower the Shoulder)] to the right (8 yd gain) [tackle: Mr. Phildo] Replay
7:22 2nd & 2 OPP 17.5 James Sargent rush to the right (2.5 yd gain) [Monster Hit diving tackle: Ken "The Devil" Risk] Replay
6:59 1st & 10 OPP 15 James Sargent rush to the right (1.5 yd gain) [Monster Hit tackle: Ken "The Devil" Risk] Replay
6:37 2nd & 8.5 OPP 13.5 James Sargent rush to the right (2.5 yd gain) [Big Hit tackle: Willy Walnuts] Replay
6:14 3rd & 6 OPP 11 James Sargent rush [missed tackle: Rob Anderson] to the right (4.5 yd gain) [tackle: Ken "The Devil" Risk] Replay
5:51 4th & 1.5 OPP 6.5 James Sargent rush [missed tackle: Phil McCrakin (Power Through)] to the right (5 yd gain) [tackle: Matt Donnelly] Replay
5:12 1st & G OPP 1.5 James Sargent rush, PAT made by ihaskicker too [TD] up the middle (1.5 yd gain) Replay
 
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And on the next drive (also in the 3rd quarter)

3:11 1st & 10 OWN 2.5 James Sargent rush to the right (4.5 yd gain) [tackle: Matt Donnelly] Replay
2:29 2nd & 5.5 OWN 7 James Sargent rush to the right (4.5 yd gain) [tackle: Matt Donnelly] Replay
1:57 3rd & 0.5 OWN 12 James Sargent rush [missed tackle: Ken "The Devil" Risk] to the right (5.5 yd gain) [tackle: Willy Walnuts] Replay
1:20 1st & 10 OWN 17 James Sargent rush to the right (5.5 yd gain) [tackle: Sambo Rambo] Replay
0:36 2nd & 4.5 OWN 22.5 James Sargent rush [missed tackle: Ken "The Devil" Risk (Spin)] to the right (4 yd gain) [Big Hit tackle: Willy Walnuts] Replay

BUT THEN, THE QUARTER ENDS AND THIS HAPPENS

15:00 3rd & 0.5 OWN 26.5 Tugger Armstrong rush [missed tackle: Willy Walnuts] to the right (14.5 yd gain) [tackle: Chris Clemons] Replay
14:23 1st & 10 OWN 41 James Sargent rush to the right (5 yd gain) [tackle: Mike Hruska] Replay
13:42 2nd & 5 OWN 46 Simar Bedi pass to James Sargent, hurried by Phil McCrakin, up the right side (8.5 yd gain) [tackle: Stickey Fingerz] Replay
13:04 1st & 10 OPP 46 Simar Bedi pass to Ian Fleein up the right side [deflected by Willy Walnuts] (incomplete - bad throw) Replay
12:59 2nd & 10 OPP 46 Simar Bedi pitch to James Sargent to the right (0.5 yd loss) [tackle: Tro Nan9] Replay
12:28 3rd & 10.5 OPP 46.5 Simar Bedi pass to Ian Fleein up the right side (incomplete - bad throw) Replay
 
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You obviously took the pussy way out and PURPOSELY set your 3rd quarter AI to abuse a play that is a well know exploit.

You should just run the play 100% in the next game because you already fucked any chance of anyone believing that you won this fairly.
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Will do, thanks for the tip.
 
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Originally posted by Swiftus
You obviously took the pussy way out and PURPOSELY set your 3rd quarter AI to abuse a play that is a well know exploit.

You should just run the play 100% in the next game because you already fucked any chance of anyone believing that you won this fairly.


So what......I give em' prop's for winning. And if they beat us, even using that play 100% of the time I would give em' props & move on.
 
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Thanks tdog. And for your information we will not be running it all game (even I think that is just ridiculous). I removed it from the all third quarter input. I admit to reading about it's effectiveness on the forum and wanted to try it out in a limited dose. Two things need to change next season:

Fatigue: A running back can't run 19 times in a row without getting tired. That should decrease the effectiveness over time.

Defensive recognition: Once a defense sees a play two or three times in a row they will adjust and squash it.

I think Bort will address both of these in the off-season.

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yeah I mean they did win, no matter what, you can't blame a guy for wanting to test something out, we all have thought of it, its a game of whoever puts up more pts wins, and Reading was able to do that
 
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Originally posted by jstuart66
GG Florence - as predicted you guys played well and just could not convert the FG's into TD's - really like what you have done with the team and wish you luck next season

OK now - Amsterdam vs Walthamstow Part 2

Can't wait for this one to kickoff


thanks, yeah we have improved, but you guys have a great organization over there and were too strong for us, oh well we'll be back next year ready to rumble!

BOL to you Amsterdam, and GL the rest of the way, can't wait to see the Amsterdam-Walthomstow game
 
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50 rushes, I slam, pussy win..

Of course, Belfast would have won had we done that and the thought came to my mind, but of course after a post by Bort acknowledging the fact that it was cheesy "cheat exploit" I knew that someone would have to be ignorant to try that

As the OC for Belfast, I am happy with the lost knowing we really would have won, probably quite easily, had that play not been included


Of course though owners on the teams that will use it will stick with the same old adage "should have used it" No.. the fact is, we ask players to join our team to play, get playing time, and get involved.. not sit on the bench while your owner ignores you to run a single play 50 times

As noted, this team will be mentioned in the owners forum for free agents as one to avoid if you would like to win and participate

congrats the rest of the league though and thank you for a great and close season..

 
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Originally posted by ReadingFC
Thanks tdog. And for your information we will not be running it all game (even I think that is just ridiculous). I removed it from the all third quarter input. I admit to reading about it's effectiveness on the forum and wanted to try it out in a limited dose. Two things need to change next season:

Fatigue: A running back can't run 19 times in a row without getting tired. That should decrease the effectiveness over time.

Defensive recognition: Once a defense sees a play two or three times in a row they will adjust and squash it.

I think Bort will address both of these in the off-season.



at least you admit to being a pussy let's see if other teams will
 
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PhiLOLdo :-)
 
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Originally posted by Phildo
50 rushes, I slam, pussy win..



You could have done the same and knowingly didn't. The choices you make are your own.
 
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The Jetts knew of the strong I glitch, but decided against exploiting it. We wanted to matchup up against the Colts on an even playing field. We might have been able to beat them by using that play, but in the end this is a game and if it is not fair, it's not worth playing to us. I don't want to put effort into game where abusing glitches leads to wins. Hopefully Bort is able to repair these issues and these dilemmas will be in the past. That being said, I don't have issue with teams who choose to gameplan this way, it's just not the path my team choose.
 
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Originally posted by Phildo
50 rushes, I slam, pussy win..

Of course, Belfast would have won had we done that and the thought came to my mind, but of course after a post by Bort acknowledging the fact that it was cheesy "cheat exploit" I knew that someone would have to be ignorant to try that

As the OC for Belfast, I am happy with the lost knowing we really would have won, probably quite easily, had that play not been included


Of course though owners on the teams that will use it will stick with the same old adage "should have used it" No.. the fact is, we ask players to join our team to play, get playing time, and get involved.. not sit on the bench while your owner ignores you to run a single play 50 times

As noted, this team will be mentioned in the owners forum for free agents as one to avoid if you would like to win and participate

congrats the rest of the league though and thank you for a great and close season..



I think at this point it's more of a moral issue. This play has really gained attention as a glitch in the last few weeks. It was a dull roar before. At the end of the day, it really comes down to a moral decision. Those who chose not to exploit it, and continued in the spirit of the game, know they didn't. Those who did will be known by all and have to live with themselves. It's kind of like taking the wallet on the floor of the convenient store. You know it belongs to someone else, but you choose to steal it anyway.
 
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If I wanted to exploit it I would have ran it all game. Our team has consistently ran James Sargent 35-40 times a game. We pound the ball, that's the way we play. The third quarter all I-Slam was an experiment due to all the hype on the forum. Half of his runs in this game were I-Slam due to that. Usually he has a handful of outside runs, a ton of off-tackle and some slams. I didn't run Islam 50 times. And I certainly didn't run it all game. So it may have been cheesey, but it wasn't *that* cheesey. It really only affected *one* drive, the other one late in the third resulted in a punt. So 7 points due to the slam.

Belfast and Reading have agreed to an exhibition. I will run a variant of our normal offense for the game, no 18-slams in a row.

And Oklahoma, the slam had nothing to do with us taking you to the woodshed in our game. So if you dropped your wallet we never saw it.
 
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