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Originally posted by Dante929
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2319838&page=1

Dear above assholes,
you showed your true character over these last three posts. I will not even respond to that garbage. Check this thread out. Look who the fourth person to post is. It looks like a Dresden GM to me. You guys were looking for a glitch to take us a down. Go fuck yourselves! I hope everyone else in this league agrees. And you think Nate is the asshole. For all his shortcomings, would have never pulled this shit. Go ahead and drive all of the good players away. Then you two dumb son of a bitches can play each other and run the same play over and over.


Oh boy so I posted in a thread about it so that shows some master planning. Give me a break. For the record I do not agree with some of the posts in this thread. I would prefer things to remain civil but that is not possible at this point.
 
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Originally posted by valakar
Originally posted by Dante929

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2319838&page=1

Dear above assholes,
you showed your true character over these last three posts. I will not even respond to that garbage. Check this thread out. Look who the fourth person to post is. It looks like a Dresden GM to me. You guys were looking for a glitch to take us a down. Go fuck yourselves! I hope everyone else in this league agrees. And you think Nate is the asshole. For all his shortcomings, would have never pulled this shit. Go ahead and drive all of the good players away. Then you two dumb son of a bitches can play each other and run the same play over and over.


Oh boy so I posted in a thread about it so that shows some master planning. Give me a break. For the record I do not agree with some of the posts in this thread. I would prefer things to remain civil but that is not possible at this point.


Yeah, I didn't really get what was wrong with your post. o_o.
What part of that post said that we were looking for a glitch to "take you down"?
 
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Dante's just looking for trouble. Look through this forum and you'll see the best thing to do with him is to ignore him... He isn't worth the effort. nate should really reign him in or disown him.
 
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Originally posted by valakar
Originally posted by Dante929

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2319838&page=1

Dear above assholes,
you showed your true character over these last three posts. I will not even respond to that garbage. Check this thread out. Look who the fourth person to post is. It looks like a Dresden GM to me. You guys were looking for a glitch to take us a down. Go fuck yourselves! I hope everyone else in this league agrees. And you think Nate is the asshole. For all his shortcomings, would have never pulled this shit. Go ahead and drive all of the good players away. Then you two dumb son of a bitches can play each other and run the same play over and over.


Oh boy so I posted in a thread about it so that shows some master planning. Give me a break. For the record I do not agree with some of the posts in this thread. I would prefer things to remain civil but that is not possible at this point.


Valakar was posting in that thread to bring attention to the glitch..actually using his energy to better the game by highlighting its weaknesses. HIS opinions are actually quite respected in dot land.

Buer explained his reasons. He admitted to the need for cash. he didnt hide. he spends money on the game just like you, so he do whatever the fuck he wants. and this was done with the minimal amount of impact on anyone. the only person who should be up in arms is cherrie.

and cali is defending the team he is on. if you guys want a morale code and an example for other GLBers out there, this is the one that should be followed.


 
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Buer...please don't require me to get involved...if I have to, I WILL end this "debate"...please don't make me remind you of the last time I got involved...
 
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Originally posted by xabi
Originally posted by valakar

Originally posted by Dante929


http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2319838&page=1

Dear above assholes,
you showed your true character over these last three posts. I will not even respond to that garbage. Check this thread out. Look who the fourth person to post is. It looks like a Dresden GM to me. You guys were looking for a glitch to take us a down. Go fuck yourselves! I hope everyone else in this league agrees. And you think Nate is the asshole. For all his shortcomings, would have never pulled this shit. Go ahead and drive all of the good players away. Then you two dumb son of a bitches can play each other and run the same play over and over.


Oh boy so I posted in a thread about it so that shows some master planning. Give me a break. For the record I do not agree with some of the posts in this thread. I would prefer things to remain civil but that is not possible at this point.


Valakar was posting in that thread to bring attention to the glitch..actually using his energy to better the game by highlighting its weaknesses. HIS opinions are actually quite respected in dot land.

Buer explained his reasons. He admitted to the need for cash. he didnt hide. he spends money on the game just like you, so he do whatever the fuck he wants. and this was done with the minimal amount of impact on anyone. the only person who should be up in arms is cherrie.

and cali is defending the team he is on. if you guys want a morale code and an example for other GLBers out there, this is the one that should be followed.




And I'm not up in arms. In the same situation, I might have done the same thing.
 
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And I'm not up in arms. In the same situation, I might have done the same thing.




Its because you cant win by going out and recruiting and developing great players, instead you need to find holes, situations in which would not be there... Cheats... you might as well as entered a cheat code and done no justice to you or your team... but i guess thats why you dont have any GM's Cherrie... I guess cause your the bitch everyone thinks you are... It's funny how you use to talk so much shit about Buer and how a waste he is to the game... If you forgot or those of you that want to see how these two (Buer and Cherrie) really are... and to understand how shady they are truly... Read this

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1650974

Cherrie/Buer.. Wanna prove how good you are... Lets see you make the Conference Championship Game... Think your good enough? I dont think you will even get close... I bet on everything that it will be Belfast and Amsterdam (no offense at all Enzos and Hollywood, two great teams) I bet the two of you Cherrie/Buer will be right here next season bitching about someone else... Oh and if you think i am wrong take a gander at the top 8 teams in the two leagues that filter into this league... or i can save you the trip THEY ARE ALL BETTER THAN THE TWO OF YOU... So i am betting that you wont make it out of this league next season. As far as Buer and his antics in our last game... Fear is a strong motivator... Fear of not being able to afford his team... Fear the scrutiny Dante and I were going to put him through... Fear that maybe he couldn't back up what he said he would... I think he knew what he was going to do after the Hollywood game... He knew he was going to lose and it wasnt going to be close... Whatever its over... All he proved is that we are better than him... We knew about this glitch before the Amsterdam Game... And i didnt even for a moment think to use it against them to get a win and get 4 home field advantages... We could of... with the HB's we employ that play would end any team we played against, but i wanted to play them straight up win or lose. Buer showed me exactly who he is... no better than cherrie the person he loathed probably worse than me... though he wont admit it now.. I spoke with the folks at GLB and i waited till i heard from them to respond at all... "however unfortunate it is that someone would exploit an apparent glitch, there is no way to undo what is done" Life goes on... Tomorrow is a new day.. I am grateful that we will have the privilege of playing three upstanding teams like Enzo, Hollywood and Amsterdam in the playoffs... I am glad that we will not have to face the two disgraced teams. Whatever you want to say either way.. I expect people to stand up for their teams so please there is no need to attack anymore... its the same thing my guys would/did do... We are moving on... we may not win this Conference or League, but i know we played it honestly.. I maybe an Asshole.. i know this... I live my life full of confidence and am probably a Cocky Asshole out of GLB too.. but when we set our teams up... When we game plan it has always been honest, and straight forward and nothing else... The only thing that embarrasses me is that Belfast is associated with the game that Buer played... My one wish is that he had done it to another team... As i am sure this will continue the battle of the internet strong guys, it is not my intention. I am not looking for people to stand on my side or stare me down from the other side, though i do want to say I appreciate those for their kind words and words of criticism in both PM and in Forum. Good Luck to each of the 8 teams making the Playoffs, and those that didnt... Good Luck next season. I hope the game remains as clean and honest as it can....
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Fellas, let's just be honest with ourselves for a second. Let's collectively take a step back............. You can be successful using a balanced offense, sure, but essentially every season... The team that best exploits that season's sim is the team that wins. That's GLB.

Who's the most famous player this season? It's Larry Csonka of the Monmouth Evil Monkeys, the best power back in the game for now. Do you think you should try to be oh so original here this season 8 by making a speed back who you hope will perform on the level of Csonka? Well it can't happen. Sorry. Maybe next season?? But for now, you go with the hot hand. If a guy has a perfect game going? Do you take him out because he's exploiting the other team? If a hockey player scores a hat trick, do you sit him because he's too good??? Of course not.

C'mon guys, if something works, it works. This is a simulation, not a pissing contest. If you know you gain a strategic advantage by doing something, why intentionally not do it? Because you have integrity? Oh wow, this is PRECISELY the place where you should take a moral stand. MY MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE ROLE PLAYING GAME FOOTBALL SIMULATION TEAM WILL NOT BE CAUGHT DEAD RUNNING ONE PLAY! I AM A MAN OF INTEGRITY, CHARACTER AND INGENUITY! I ONLY FIND TRUE GLORY IN RUNNING OFF TACKLE HANDOFFS TO MY FB! GOD BLESS A BALANCED OFFENSE IN WHICH I DO NOT GIVE THE BALL TO MY BEST PLAYER AS MUCH AS I CAN USING A PLAY I KNOW WORKS REALLY REALLY WELL!!! HOW DARE YOU USE A PLAY THAT IS WORKING TOO WELL!! ARE YOU NOT A MAN! COME WITH ME AND PASS THE BALL TO YOUR WR! SURE THE QB HAS A 51% COMPLETION PERCENTAGE AND THE WR IS AVERAGING 1.2 YAC, BUT AT LEAST YOU'LL BE A REAL MAN!!!!

Give me a break kids. When we all played madden on sega and super nintendo, did you truly use the whole playbook? Did you sincerely use the full playbook? That's where this game is at in terms of offensive playcalling. C'mon fellas, be honest with yourselves. You found a few good plays that you liked and you ran them into the ground. Why? Because they worked and you could trust them.

If people want to play the same way here, that's their own business. If you don't like it, stop them as best you can. That's YOUR ONLY RESPONSIBILITY. Do you honestly believe that giving people shit will remedy this? If you can't stop them, outexploit them. What do you want the exploiters to say? "Oh good for you, you lost but at least you ran 33 unique plays!!! Hooray!! You're obviously the better team then!"

If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at Bort. This is his creation. This is his primitive game that is still developing and weeding out exploits and unfortunately, he's creating them. Until we reach that point where there are no exploits (not happening, this will never be GLB Beta Utopia), either be the dumbass that knows something works and refuses to do it or be the guy who takes advantage of it and wins. A win is a win is a win, boys. The stubborn refusal to take advantage of a play that is working really well doesn't determine a win on a football field. Winning does.


No responses, guess yall can't handle the truth


You are an absolute idiot. That response enough for ya ? When you are not good enough you cheat. Fine example you set. We have known about it since the start of the season, we just dont use it. So its simple really ... we have respect for the other teams in this league. Those that use it dont. Its all Bort's fault because he wrote the code... blahdi blah blah. Whatever makes you sleep better at night. This whole argument is not about sim glitches you ignorant fool. Its about honor.
 
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Originally posted by Bugman_AZ
Originally posted by California

Originally posted by California


Fellas, let's just be honest with ourselves for a second. Let's collectively take a step back............. You can be successful using a balanced offense, sure, but essentially every season... The team that best exploits that season's sim is the team that wins. That's GLB.

Who's the most famous player this season? It's Larry Csonka of the Monmouth Evil Monkeys, the best power back in the game for now. Do you think you should try to be oh so original here this season 8 by making a speed back who you hope will perform on the level of Csonka? Well it can't happen. Sorry. Maybe next season?? But for now, you go with the hot hand. If a guy has a perfect game going? Do you take him out because he's exploiting the other team? If a hockey player scores a hat trick, do you sit him because he's too good??? Of course not.

C'mon guys, if something works, it works. This is a simulation, not a pissing contest. If you know you gain a strategic advantage by doing something, why intentionally not do it? Because you have integrity? Oh wow, this is PRECISELY the place where you should take a moral stand. MY MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE ROLE PLAYING GAME FOOTBALL SIMULATION TEAM WILL NOT BE CAUGHT DEAD RUNNING ONE PLAY! I AM A MAN OF INTEGRITY, CHARACTER AND INGENUITY! I ONLY FIND TRUE GLORY IN RUNNING OFF TACKLE HANDOFFS TO MY FB! GOD BLESS A BALANCED OFFENSE IN WHICH I DO NOT GIVE THE BALL TO MY BEST PLAYER AS MUCH AS I CAN USING A PLAY I KNOW WORKS REALLY REALLY WELL!!! HOW DARE YOU USE A PLAY THAT IS WORKING TOO WELL!! ARE YOU NOT A MAN! COME WITH ME AND PASS THE BALL TO YOUR WR! SURE THE QB HAS A 51% COMPLETION PERCENTAGE AND THE WR IS AVERAGING 1.2 YAC, BUT AT LEAST YOU'LL BE A REAL MAN!!!!

Give me a break kids. When we all played madden on sega and super nintendo, did you truly use the whole playbook? Did you sincerely use the full playbook? That's where this game is at in terms of offensive playcalling. C'mon fellas, be honest with yourselves. You found a few good plays that you liked and you ran them into the ground. Why? Because they worked and you could trust them.

If people want to play the same way here, that's their own business. If you don't like it, stop them as best you can. That's YOUR ONLY RESPONSIBILITY. Do you honestly believe that giving people shit will remedy this? If you can't stop them, outexploit them. What do you want the exploiters to say? "Oh good for you, you lost but at least you ran 33 unique plays!!! Hooray!! You're obviously the better team then!"

If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at Bort. This is his creation. This is his primitive game that is still developing and weeding out exploits and unfortunately, he's creating them. Until we reach that point where there are no exploits (not happening, this will never be GLB Beta Utopia), either be the dumbass that knows something works and refuses to do it or be the guy who takes advantage of it and wins. A win is a win is a win, boys. The stubborn refusal to take advantage of a play that is working really well doesn't determine a win on a football field. Winning does.


No responses, guess yall can't handle the truth


You are an absolute idiot. That response enough for ya ? When you are not good enough you cheat. Fine example you set. We have known about it since the start of the season, we just dont use it. So its simple really ... we have respect for the other teams in this league. Those that use it dont. Its all Bort's fault because he wrote the code... blahdi blah blah. Whatever makes you sleep better at night. This whole argument is not about sim glitches you ignorant fool. Its about honor.


Hey douche..your owner is moving on..
so should you.
 
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For the record my statements in the thread you referenced and in this one have been respectful of other people and never degrading or derogatory. The only reason I mention this is Flame came on here and personally referenced a thread and my post (not a huge deal) but by doing so basically brought me into this and also brought the Addict organization into this. Now I fully endorse what Gman said in this thread. I know your last message did not even mention my name so before you say I was referring to Buer or Cherrie I understand you were but just wanted to make a few comments.

Right or wrong; Moral or Immoral; Good or bad it already took place and is unfortunate. I am not going to justify, defend, or attack in anyway. I just want the record to reflect that in NO WAY was the Addict Organization affiliated with this decision.
 
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Originally posted by Bugman_AZ
Originally posted by California

Originally posted by California


Fellas, let's just be honest with ourselves for a second. Let's collectively take a step back............. You can be successful using a balanced offense, sure, but essentially every season... The team that best exploits that season's sim is the team that wins. That's GLB.

Who's the most famous player this season? It's Larry Csonka of the Monmouth Evil Monkeys, the best power back in the game for now. Do you think you should try to be oh so original here this season 8 by making a speed back who you hope will perform on the level of Csonka? Well it can't happen. Sorry. Maybe next season?? But for now, you go with the hot hand. If a guy has a perfect game going? Do you take him out because he's exploiting the other team? If a hockey player scores a hat trick, do you sit him because he's too good??? Of course not.

C'mon guys, if something works, it works. This is a simulation, not a pissing contest. If you know you gain a strategic advantage by doing something, why intentionally not do it? Because you have integrity? Oh wow, this is PRECISELY the place where you should take a moral stand. MY MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE ROLE PLAYING GAME FOOTBALL SIMULATION TEAM WILL NOT BE CAUGHT DEAD RUNNING ONE PLAY! I AM A MAN OF INTEGRITY, CHARACTER AND INGENUITY! I ONLY FIND TRUE GLORY IN RUNNING OFF TACKLE HANDOFFS TO MY FB! GOD BLESS A BALANCED OFFENSE IN WHICH I DO NOT GIVE THE BALL TO MY BEST PLAYER AS MUCH AS I CAN USING A PLAY I KNOW WORKS REALLY REALLY WELL!!! HOW DARE YOU USE A PLAY THAT IS WORKING TOO WELL!! ARE YOU NOT A MAN! COME WITH ME AND PASS THE BALL TO YOUR WR! SURE THE QB HAS A 51% COMPLETION PERCENTAGE AND THE WR IS AVERAGING 1.2 YAC, BUT AT LEAST YOU'LL BE A REAL MAN!!!!

Give me a break kids. When we all played madden on sega and super nintendo, did you truly use the whole playbook? Did you sincerely use the full playbook? That's where this game is at in terms of offensive playcalling. C'mon fellas, be honest with yourselves. You found a few good plays that you liked and you ran them into the ground. Why? Because they worked and you could trust them.

If people want to play the same way here, that's their own business. If you don't like it, stop them as best you can. That's YOUR ONLY RESPONSIBILITY. Do you honestly believe that giving people shit will remedy this? If you can't stop them, outexploit them. What do you want the exploiters to say? "Oh good for you, you lost but at least you ran 33 unique plays!!! Hooray!! You're obviously the better team then!"

If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at Bort. This is his creation. This is his primitive game that is still developing and weeding out exploits and unfortunately, he's creating them. Until we reach that point where there are no exploits (not happening, this will never be GLB Beta Utopia), either be the dumbass that knows something works and refuses to do it or be the guy who takes advantage of it and wins. A win is a win is a win, boys. The stubborn refusal to take advantage of a play that is working really well doesn't determine a win on a football field. Winning does.


No responses, guess yall can't handle the truth


You are an absolute idiot. That response enough for ya ? When you are not good enough you cheat. Fine example you set. We have known about it since the start of the season, we just dont use it. So its simple really ... we have respect for the other teams in this league. Those that use it dont. Its all Bort's fault because he wrote the code... blahdi blah blah. Whatever makes you sleep better at night. This whole argument is not about sim glitches you ignorant fool. Its about honor.


Again I have stated I do not agree with everything that has been posted in this thread. I again want to comment and say there is no justification (or there shouldn't be any) for getting a cheap victory. That being said, many many Pro teams use this ALOT (again that does not make it right either). Also, when you talk about honor I would like to know what is the "magical" baseline for this honor. I mean do you run that play 90%, 80%, 70%, 50% what is the "appropriate" amount without being dishonorable? Another point is this is not "cheating" (again that also is not a justification for it). I for one am disappointed being involved with this game as a GM for Dresden, however I am more disappointed in myself for even mentioning it when it was ran against another team I am on and somehow feel "responsible" for this whole thing. However, I know it was well known and documented so I may be a bit harsh on myself but either way I want to publicly apologize for any role I had in this for what that is worth. I hope this can end it or at least end it as far as my own, Guppy's, or the Addict Organization's involvement is concerned.
 
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Douches are for pussies. Therefore Dresden GM's should be quite familiar with them.
 
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Originally posted by Bugman_AZ
Douches are for pussies. Therefore Dresden GM's should be quite familiar with them.


Here you are continuing to use a broad brush and paint everyone with it. Is it possible to have a rational conversation in this forum?
 
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Sorry, let me rephrase. Most Dresden GM's. My bad lol.
 
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I want to go on the record and say i will vouche for valakar..i liked having him last year as a GM for my VCA team and would welcome his players back if we needed them anytime....I am sure he had no ill intented anywhere in this post and I also would take exception to any insults thrown at him or any addicts involved in this...thanks...
 
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