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Originally posted by cannons call
Originally posted by SteaminWillieBeamin

Originally posted by HeadHunter


Your right...when we start the season 5-0 or 4-1 and we lead the league in several statistical categories...will that be the correct time?

How about when we do everything I say we will do...I only speak the truth. Nothing Ive ever said is false.


Not really, the EC looks considerably weaker as a whole than the LC this season (and every season).

...and Durban would destroy your team.


Well i don't know if you were referring to the lower tier leagues, but elephant has been the stronger conference pretty much every season of aa3's existence. The only reason it is weaker this year is because all of the high level elephant teams have moved up while some high level lion teams still haven't been promoted.


No the reason why elephant is weaker this season is because you have 2 teams slow building and another 3 teams with multiple starters in the high 20 lvl range, so that automatically gives everyone else in elephant 5 easy/cupcake W's. We dont have that at all in Lion. That's what we are referring to. So someone who finishes 13-3 in elephant is no better than a 8-8 in lion since you have 5 gimmies you dont even have to gameplan for to win. Now that is the FACTS!
 
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So basically what your saying is the top tier teams in our conference cant matchup with you guys over there...just because we have a few teams that are horrible.

So if you play in a weak conference you arent as good as a team in a better conference that played just as even as you did?

Example...Memphis basketball.
They play in CUSA but yet they dominate. So they arent allowed to be considered a top team in the nation because of the teams they play.

Thats horrible insight...and yoru facts are a little twisted.

13-3 = 8-8 in lion...hahahahahahhahahahaha weak!
what if that 13-3 team just happened to be better than half the teams in lion.

Your not even bringing anything to the table in this debate...

NEXT!
 
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Originally posted by HeadHunter
All it is is jibberish and bullshit spewing out of your mouth.

Come with some facts.


Pot, meet kettle.
 
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Who are you....shouldnt you retreat back into hiding?
Dont just come aboard the forums every so often to seem like a wise ass.

Either bring it often or stfu.
 
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You guys will learn to hate me...
 
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Originally posted by HeadHunter


what if that 13-3 team just happened to be better than half the teams in lion.



That's what 8-8 in LC means, genius. They'd be better than half the teams in LC (and worse than the other half).

The fact is LC is considerably more balanced and competitive both last season and this season (unless teams go CPU or slowbuild after the season starts). This was the same in Africa A#6 as well.

Obviously there are cases where the top team in EC is the best team (ala E'ci last season), but I'm talking as a whole.

It's no secret that every win a team has in LC will be hard fought while good teams in EC have several cupcake opponents. It's not your fault or anything, but it's clear to everyone that your records will be inflated as a result.

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Originally posted by HeadHunter
So basically what your saying is the top tier teams in our conference cant matchup with you guys over there...just because we have a few teams that are horrible.

So if you play in a weak conference you arent as good as a team in a better conference that played just as even as you did?

Example...Memphis basketball.
They play in CUSA but yet they dominate. So they arent allowed to be considered a top team in the nation because of the teams they play.

Thats horrible insight...and yoru facts are a little twisted.

13-3 = 8-8 in lion...hahahahahahhahahahaha weak!
what if that 13-3 team just happened to be better than half the teams in lion.

Your not even bringing anything to the table in this debate...

NEXT!


Never said your top tier teams couldnt match up with ours! Just said that you have at least 5 really weak teams making your top tier teams records skewed. So yes its a hell of a lot easier to make the playoffs "this" season in elephant than lion. That is all that I said, no derog toward the top tier teams.

and to got back to your thought process, Boise State's football team was undefeated last season and didn't break the top 10 in rankings because they played in a weak ass conference ( i.e. elephant) even though several of the top ten teams had losses!! THAT IS A FACT!

and University of Hawaii the year before went undefeated in a weak conference keeping them ranked outside the top teams with losses.

***Both teams did lose their Bowl games since they played against a higher caliber team from a stronger conference. AGAIN, FACT
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Originally posted by cannons call

The only reason it is weaker this year is because all of the high level elephant teams have moved up while some high level lion teams still haven't been promoted.


I think it is important to note that promotion doesn't equal success to a particular conference. For example, we whipped Wachootoo twice last season and also beat Chad convincingly. We are still here...they were promoted. Ghani Ashanit beat Wachootoo as well...still here.

Last season I think it was safe to say that although the champion came from Elephant, Lion was the overall tougher conference to play in.
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Originally posted by cannons call


The only reason it is weaker this year is because all of the high level elephant teams have moved up while some high level lion teams still haven't been promoted.


Exactly. The LC had more high level teams to begin with...

 
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All I was trying to prove was that we wouldnt be 8-8 in LC.
Saying a 13-3 team in Ec equals 8-8 in lion is a blind prediction.

You have no way of knowing if they would win some games against the better teams over there.
 
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Originally posted by HeadHunter
All I was trying to prove was that we wouldnt be 8-8 in LC.
Saying a 13-3 team in Ec equals 8-8 in lion is a blind prediction.

You have no way of knowing if they would win some games against the better teams over there.


True, but for that matter we can't predict 5 or so guaranteed wins for quality LC teams either.
 
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Exactly...so theres no need to evne begin debating how one team would do in the other conference.


I know that there most likely wont be any undefeated teams this season, probably not even a 2 loss team...should be competitive.

Should be interesting to see how the preseason voting turns out.
 
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Originally posted by ColaCock
Originally posted by cannons call


The only reason it is weaker this year is because all of the high level elephant teams have moved up while some high level lion teams still haven't been promoted.


I think it is important to note that promotion doesn't equal success to a particular conference. For example, we whipped Wachootoo twice last season and also beat Chad convincingly. We are still here...they were promoted. Ghani Ashanit beat Wachootoo as well...still here.

Last season I think it was safe to say that although the champion came from Elephant, Lion was the overall tougher conference to play in.


I'd hardly call beating Wachootoo by 8 in the regular season and 7 in a scrimmage "whipping them twice"
 
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