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nothere
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Originally posted by Devin00
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There is no reason to put down St. Petersburg. You are good Jersey, it's obvious, but you are insufferably arrogant as well. Krakow has not lost a game and they are a good team, it seems a little hypocritical to question their competition since you were all up in arms when others were questioning your level of competition earlier this year. Besides the championship resides in alpha until it is taken away, thanks to Amsterdam. By the way, does anyone know what happened to Stockholm Syndrome? I have seen Amsterdam and they seem to be turning things around a little after a rough start but I haven't found Stockholm, did they move to US?


well first of all....i'm gonna say the exact same thing that keeps getting tossed around by others...someone keeps saying our division is weak...well i see it the other way around...the alpha division is no different...then the beta division...they both have their weak points...i am not putting st petersburg down...just saying they have not beat noone...so why is it krakow took down a top team in the alpha...when they have beaten noone special? and of course it's hippocritical...we been hearing shi all season...now when i say something it's a big deal....and you haven't seen arrogant yet.

We have all seen arrogant from many different people on this board. Now if you are saying you could get even more arrogant, I guess it's possible, but it couldn't be much more than it is now. You guys aren't alone in it either so don't think I am trying to say you are the most arrogant, I am just saying you guys are the most frequently arrogant. Krakow has beaten every team that has faced them, save MMA which was a good team and Krakow has beaten 7 other teams some of which are good teams. You are not only putting down St. Pete and Krakow but every team they have played.

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Originally posted by bombizzy
I think i wanna play krakow more than anyone. Hey mods can i get a schedule change plz?

If we both play good enough, long enough you might get that chance.

As far as the rest, I haven't looked across the isle to see what the teams over there look like, we got enough trouble right here.

But I think everyone recognizes how fortunate you were to have as many 1st year teams in your conference as you do.

While I think the cream on both sides are rising to the top, there was much less to start with in Beta, to even suggest otherwise is comical.

But the top of the division is equally tough on both sides, but looking at how the schedule has played out, it's much too early to grant anyone the best of the best based simply on record or scoring difference.

I know were entering the toughest part of our schedule, nothing is going to be won or lost based on what anyone says in here.



 
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Originally posted by Devin00
Originally posted by nothere

There is no reason to put down St. Petersburg. You are good Jersey, it's obvious, but you are insufferably arrogant as well. Krakow has not lost a game and they are a good team, it seems a little hypocritical to question their competition since you were all up in arms when others were questioning your level of competition earlier this year. Besides the championship resides in alpha until it is taken away, thanks to Amsterdam. By the way, does anyone know what happened to Stockholm Syndrome? I have seen Amsterdam and they seem to be turning things around a little after a rough start but I haven't found Stockholm, did they move to US?


well first of all....i'm gonna say the exact same thing that keeps getting tossed around by others...someone keeps saying our division is weak...well i see it the other way around...the alpha division is no different...then the beta division...they both have their weak points...i am not putting st petersburg down...just saying they have not beat noone...so why is it krakow took down a top team in the alpha...when they have beaten noone special? and of course it's hippocritical...we been hearing shi all season...now when i say something it's a big deal....and you haven't seen arrogant yet.


looking at all the teams individually in each conference I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that they are equal. There are so many talented teams in our conference, we have only had 2 easy games this season. We have played alot of tough teams and it dont get any easier.

so far we have played a...

5-2-1 team
two 6-2 teams
and 2 4-4 teams.

and even the bad teams we have beaten have more talent than most of your top 10 teams. after the top 4 in yalls division it gets pretty bad...
 
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Originally posted by Devin00
Originally posted by nothere

There is no reason to put down St. Petersburg. You are good Jersey, it's obvious, but you are insufferably arrogant as well. Krakow has not lost a game and they are a good team, it seems a little hypocritical to question their competition since you were all up in arms when others were questioning your level of competition earlier this year. Besides the championship resides in alpha until it is taken away, thanks to Amsterdam. By the way, does anyone know what happened to Stockholm Syndrome? I have seen Amsterdam and they seem to be turning things around a little after a rough start but I haven't found Stockholm, did they move to US?


well first of all....i'm gonna say the exact same thing that keeps getting tossed around by others...someone keeps saying our division is weak...well i see it the other way around...the alpha division is no different...then the beta division...they both have their weak points...i am not putting st petersburg down...just saying they have not beat noone...so why is it krakow took down a top team in the alpha...when they have beaten noone special? and of course it's hippocritical...we been hearing shi all season...now when i say something it's a big deal....and you haven't seen arrogant yet.


lol yall aint beat no one special either!
 
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I can admit that Zeta conference did get pretty fortunate with all the new teams added to it. But with that said, I think Zeta will be taking home the championship this season.
 
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1 word.....lmao

no ender that wasn't from your comment....it just seems i don't understand what makes the teams krakow played good...really...why are they good...but yet noone in our division is good because we all beat bad teams lol...i am just tired of hearing the same bullshit...it's amazing...it doesn't really matter...everyone is gonna be biased so it really doesn't mean anything...(i am not talking about krakow here) your good team has beaten 1 winning record team...your other good team that you consider good has lost both it's 2 big games and beat the other team that hasn't beat anyone with a winning record none which have beat a top 10 team except barcelona who beat st. pete...i haven't once said krakow ain't good or any of the other 2 ain't good...but what distinguishes the fact that your division is tough and our division is weak...as we have 2 teams without wins...you have 3...we have 2 teams that are undefeated....you have 1 team that is unbeaten....i pretty much thing bongbreath has worded it best for everyone...and ender has come up to the best solution...although anything is possible.
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Devin00
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and i wouldn't put us being the best (in our conference)...i like our chances but i wouldn't count hellas out...as they look like when we play them it will be the game to watch this year...period...from what it looks like right now....of course that can change by the time we play....and i wouldn't even pick a winner in that one...it will be a toss up.
 
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Originally posted by Devin00
it just seems i don't understand what makes the teams krakow played good...really...why are they good....


I personally think they were all pretty good, except for the 1st year team we played which really wasn't fair to them.

I'm very impressed with the amount of high lvl players, the obvious committment by their owners and GM's to build very competitive teams.

Honestly, I've just looked at your team Devin, and while I feel we have a lot of simular teams in this division, that doesn't mean yours isn't good, in fact I'm impressed. But how we match up with you is irrelevent, unless both of us get far enough to find out.

But we aren't there yet, and there is a lot of teams, once again just as good if not better than yours standing in our way.

But if you say they aren't very good, then you are indeed slaming your own team IMHO because they are every bit as high level as you, if not higher.

But I'm not sure we have any teams weaker than what you are about to play in your next 4 games, and that includes our solo 1st year team who's better than your next 4 teams.

You won't find that over here, to say you don't have a MUCH easier schedule is beyond reasonable debate.



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Originally posted by Ender922
I can admit that Zeta conference did get pretty fortunate with all the new teams added to it. But with that said, I think Zeta will be taking home the championship this season.


Ask Stewart how fortunate they are for having the Odesa Outlaws added to Zeta.
 
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No offense to to the organization of Odesa but it is tough to really get established when starting in a league where everyone a season headstart. That being said what happened to Stewart was either fluke, or your team was overlooked for another opponent. Either way I think them being beaten furthers bongbreaths claim
 
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Originally posted by bongbreath
Originally posted by Devin00

it just seems i don't understand what makes the teams krakow played good...really...why are they good....


I personally think they were all pretty good, except for the 1st year team we played which really wasn't fair to them.

I'm very impressed with the amount of high lvl players, the obvious committment by their owners and GM's to build very competitive teams.

Honestly, I've just looked at your team Devin, and while I feel we have a lot of simular teams in this division, that doesn't mean yours isn't good, in fact I'm impressed. But how we match up with you is irrelevent, unless both of us get far enough to find out.

But we aren't there yet, and there is a lot of teams, once again just as good if not better than yours standing in our way.

But if you say they aren't very good, then you are indeed slaming your own team IMHO because they are every bit as high level as you, if not higher.

But I'm not sure we have any teams weaker than what you are about to play in your next 4 games, and that includes our solo 1st year team who's better than your next 4 teams.

You won't find that over here, to say you don't have a MUCH easier schedule is beyond reasonable debate.





yeah i hear you...but i think it's funny that now that's being said after all the bullshit that was said over the past week...especially by the krakow team....in reference to our division...i think it's funny that now all of a sudden...everyone is good...when just a week ago...we had played nobody worth mentioning...lmao....but i guess if the boot fits...wear it right.
 
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i mean...we beat chekov bears when they were 5th in the power rankings...not only beat them but beat the shi out of them...55-3 and they weren't good supposively...then we play chicago midway monsters and lean to a landslide victory that was over in the second quarter....and all a sudden they are not good and they only 6-1 because they play in a weak conference...lmao wtf i mean...do we have to simulate a game against the patriots and tom brady here? that is my point....i am trying to make...as it's easy to say we played nobody...take a look at your own schedule...why is it that another team is good compared to another? how are the ones in your conference better...because you play them? i just don't get it.
 
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what I dont get is people act like we are making our schedule....its already set play it..then talk that smack when you make the play-offs.
 
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i agree...i never complained about who we play....i just trying to distinguish what makes teams better....why are teams other teams play good...but nooone elses...
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Originally posted by nothere
No offense to to the organization of Odesa but it is tough to really get established when starting in a league where everyone a season headstart. That being said what happened to Stewart was either fluke, or your team was overlooked for another opponent. Either way I think them being beaten furthers bongbreaths claim


And then we (Odessa Ajejes) blasted Belgrade Falcons and Chernobyl Ooops, both Season 1 teams, older then us.

Both "Odessa Ajejes" and "Odesa Outlaws" are 4-4 this season and those are NOT just wins against other expansion teams.

No offense to the organization of losing expansion teams, but there's definitely a way to be a winning team without having played the first season. Both teams from Odesa-Odessa (Ukrainan or Russian spelling) are proving it.
 
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