Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Danthesportsman
From the OP:
"I'll bet you couldn't make a better list. If you can then I will be pleased to see your list. If you can't, GTFO."

Ask and you shall receive...

1) Mean Machine
2) West Scranton
3) Banzai Pipeline
4) Tonga Ikale Tahi
5) Melbourne Thorny Devils
6) Brisbane Heat
7) Vanuata Kava Sharks
8) Fakaofa Bomb Squad
9) Samoa Gangsters
10) IC Incinerators
11) Brisbane Gods
12) Brantford Mustangs
13) So Cal BDC
14) Cascade Cajun Crushers
15) Melbourne Dreadnoks
16) Waga Waga Fighting Squirels
17) Jersey Wildcats
18) Fiji Stingers
19) Canbera Strike
20) Fiji Sea Turtles
21) Cook Island Convicts
22) Tongan Crimson Auhua
23) Brisbane Bandits
24) G-Town Connection
25) Barossa Grape Stompers
26) Saipan Fighters
27) Emerald City Flying Monkeys
28) Aussie Cardinals
29) Co-op City Blitz
30) New Zealand Burning Pride
31) Palau Bull Sharks
32) Guinness Celtic Warriors

It's hard to predict what is going to happen but going off of last seasons results this would be "in the ball park."

Very close to how I would have it. Only difference is I would have some of the new teams a bit higher...my top 5 would be

1.) MM, Can't argue with this one until someone takes it from them..
2.) Tonga/WS This is a coin toss. Always an interesting matchup.
4.) Nites Actually can beat anyone in league on any given day.
5.) Heat Will contend for Zeta crown, dangerous club.

Rounding top 10

6.) SoCal
7.) Sharks
8.) Samoa
9.) Bomb Squad
10.)Ic

Originally posted by Danthesportsman
From the OP:
"I'll bet you couldn't make a better list. If you can then I will be pleased to see your list. If you can't, GTFO."

Ask and you shall receive...

1) Mean Machine
2) West Scranton
3) Banzai Pipeline
4) Tonga Ikale Tahi
5) Melbourne Thorny Devils
6) Brisbane Heat
7) Vanuata Kava Sharks
8) Fakaofa Bomb Squad
9) Samoa Gangsters
10) IC Incinerators
11) Brisbane Gods
12) Brantford Mustangs
13) So Cal BDC
14) Cascade Cajun Crushers
15) Melbourne Dreadnoks
16) Waga Waga Fighting Squirels
17) Jersey Wildcats
18) Fiji Stingers
19) Canbera Strike
20) Fiji Sea Turtles
21) Cook Island Convicts
22) Tongan Crimson Auhua
23) Brisbane Bandits
24) G-Town Connection
25) Barossa Grape Stompers
26) Saipan Fighters
27) Emerald City Flying Monkeys
28) Aussie Cardinals
29) Co-op City Blitz
30) New Zealand Burning Pride
31) Palau Bull Sharks
32) Guinness Celtic Warriors

It's hard to predict what is going to happen but going off of last seasons results this would be "in the ball park."

I commend you for doing what is nearly impossible like I did. I'm glad I have something to compare my list to now. Your list is much more politically correct so I wouldn't mind it being the "official Rankings" now or whatever, I'm just glad I sparked such a large heated conversation.

The rankings that have most street cred are the coaches poll rankings.

and honestly in the end, they are all for fun anyway. The cream always rises to the top at the end of season.

also...

Any list that doesnt have Mean Machine #1 preseason loses all credibility. Like I always feel, you have to beat the Champ to become the champ.

Originally posted by steelerblitz
Originally posted by SCACE

we almost always lose our preseason games, for whatever that's worth

Feel free to brag about beating us in them

Yeah, we were 0-2 in the preseason last year. We dont take them seriously WIN wise. We take them seriously experimentation wise. Preseason tells nothing of who a team is. People play close to the vest and experiment a lot. It is your only way to test the new AI features.


Good luck.....I personally think Jersey will surprise a lot of people up here. Your team wont be flying under the radar....that is for sure.



thx. i was just making sure i wouldn't catch any heat if i was to lose our first game in preseason lol. cuz then i would try lil harder and take lil more serious. i just wanna break the seal here and get a good ai ready. at least that's my intentions. and must pardon me i'm not used to the hospitality ya'll have shown. glad to be in place all good teams and owners. good luck again today everyone. gotta get ready for college football and the fight tonite

Originally posted by Kira
27. Melbourne Thorny Devils

Interesting List Kira...

How MTD ended up 27th im not sure, went to the conference championship game in our first season in the O-Pro, and you put us 14th or the 16 zeta teams, i prefer being the underdog but thats abit low

Originally posted by Devin00
Originally posted by steelerblitz

Originally posted by SCACE


we almost always lose our preseason games, for whatever that's worth

Feel free to brag about beating us in them

Yeah, we were 0-2 in the preseason last year. We dont take them seriously WIN wise. We take them seriously experimentation wise. Preseason tells nothing of who a team is. People play close to the vest and experiment a lot. It is your only way to test the new AI features.


Good luck.....I personally think Jersey will surprise a lot of people up here. Your team wont be flying under the radar....that is for sure.



thx. i was just making sure i wouldn't catch any heat if i was to lose our first game in preseason lol. cuz then i would try lil harder and take lil more serious. i just wanna break the seal here and get a good ai ready. at least that's my intentions. and must pardon me i'm not used to the hospitality ya'll have shown. glad to be in place all good teams and owners. good luck again today everyone. gotta get ready for college football and the fight tonite

Preseason is for trying new things out, wins/losses don't really matter.

Originally posted by nautilus
Originally posted by Devin00

Originally posted by steelerblitz


Originally posted by SCACE



we almost always lose our preseason games, for whatever that's worth

Feel free to brag about beating us in them

Yeah, we were 0-2 in the preseason last year. We dont take them seriously WIN wise. We take them seriously experimentation wise. Preseason tells nothing of who a team is. People play close to the vest and experiment a lot. It is your only way to test the new AI features.


Good luck.....I personally think Jersey will surprise a lot of people up here. Your team wont be flying under the radar....that is for sure.



thx. i was just making sure i wouldn't catch any heat if i was to lose our first game in preseason lol. cuz then i would try lil harder and take lil more serious. i just wanna break the seal here and get a good ai ready. at least that's my intentions. and must pardon me i'm not used to the hospitality ya'll have shown. glad to be in place all good teams and owners. good luck again today everyone. gotta get ready for college football and the fight tonite

Preseason is for trying new things out, wins/losses don't really matter.

yeah that's my philosophy, just was making sure you guys didn't have a code you followed, you know what i mean.

Originally posted by Turtlepower
Originally posted by Kira

27. Melbourne Thorny Devils

Interesting List Kira...

How MTD ended up 27th im not sure, went to the conference championship game in our first season in the O-Pro, and you put us 14th or the 16 zeta teams, i prefer being the underdog but thats abit low



Especially considering the hot and heavy recruiting MTD did in the off season. I honestly feel they could be the #1 team this season.

I'm gonna do a TINY analysis of two teams here

#22 Tongan Crimson Auha vrs. #16 Wagga Wagga Fighting Squirels
Tongan has a 51 overall and Wagga Wagga has a 48 overall
Tongan has 45 players, 38 level 30 or above, 22 level 35 or above and only 1 inactive
Wagga Wagga has 49 players, 37 level 30 or above, 8 level 35 or above and 11 inactive
Wagga Wagga's skill position players have a combined 1 award, while Tongan's have 11 all from Oceania Pro including one of last season's leading TD recievers.
I know you all could easily give many valid reasons why all that is meaningless. You can save those arguments for another time. I respectfully disagree and luckily we're going to find out after the first game of the season.

Originally posted by Kira
I'm gonna do a TINY analysis of two teams here

#22 Tongan Crimson Auha vrs. #16 Wagga Wagga Fighting Squirels
Tongan has a 51 overall and Wagga Wagga has a 48 overall
Tongan has 45 players, 38 level 30 or above, 22 level 35 or above and only 1 inactive
Wagga Wagga has 49 players, 37 level 30 or above, 8 level 35 or above and 11 inactive
Wagga Wagga's skill position players have a combined 1 award, while Tongan's have 11 all from Oceania Pro including one of last season's leading TD recievers.
I know you all could easily give many valid reasons why all that is meaningless. You can save those arguments for another time. I respectfully disagree and luckily we're going to find out after the first game of the season.

No, I will not save my arguments.

#1 . . . level are less important than builds at these high levels. Its a decent indicator, for sure, especially at lower levels, but the difference between a 36 and a 33 at this point is considerably less.

#2 . . . judging inactive population after a 10-15 day off season for many teams is skewed to say the least.

#3 . . . awards are for individuals. For instance, my team Tonga is based around a team concept with high rotations. We ran for over 4,000 yards last season, but didn't have a back in the top 3. We use a platoon QB system, so neither ends up with a ton of stats, but we'll throw for 3,500 yards and 30+ TD's for sure. Because our defense gets off the field with 3 and outs a lot, we don't get a lot of individual tackles, but our defense is among the league leaders.

Those are valid reasons. We'll see if they hold true after week 1 won't we?

Originally posted by steelerblitz
The rankings that have most street cred are the coaches poll rankings.

and honestly in the end, they are all for fun anyway. The cream always rises to the top at the end of season.

also...

Any list that doesnt have Mean Machine #1 preseason loses all credibility. Like I always feel, you have to beat the Champ to become the champ.
I agree and disagree with the bold. I have not paid much attention to off season player movements but if MM was inactive in bringing in new players and a team like WSI brought in loads of higher talent I could understand forecasting them to be #1 as this is a new season (now to not have MM in the top 2-3 would be insane).

MM brought in several new players over the offseason.

Originally posted by beenlurken
Originally posted by steelerblitz

The rankings that have most street cred are the coaches poll rankings.

and honestly in the end, they are all for fun anyway. The cream always rises to the top at the end of season.

also...

Any list that doesnt have Mean Machine #1 preseason loses all credibility. Like I always feel, you have to beat the Champ to become the champ.
I agree and disagree with the bold. I have not paid much attention to off season player movements but if MM was inactive in bringing in new players and a team like WSI brought in loads of higher talent I could understand forecasting them to be #1 as this is a new season (now to not have MM in the top 2-3 would be insane).

YOU WANNA SAY THAT TO MY FACE?

Originally posted by Turtlepower
Originally posted by Kira

27. Melbourne Thorny Devils

Interesting List Kira...

How MTD ended up 27th im not sure, went to the conference championship game in our first season in the O-Pro, and you put us 14th or the 16 zeta teams, i prefer being the underdog but thats abit low



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