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Originally posted by cowcards
Guys stop arguing about being second best...maybe


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Originally posted by cowcards
Guys stop arguing about being second best...maybe


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Originally posted by ColaCock
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Originally posted by jdellis45


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The best part of all of this is you were attempting to win the whole time, yet here you are still in the same conference as us, yet with a worse team.


What are you basing this on?



so you truly believe your team is better? Interesting.


whenever we gameplan and all come together, we are certainly better than your team. last year, the matchup showed the overall favor to your team...and we still doubled you up on the scoreboard.

this year may certainly be closer, our team has had some issues in the offseason with slack agents' players and we have had to make some changes...but don't think we are laying over and aren't going to be competitive. i think we have been pretty competitive in this league since it started. we have beat South Africa the past 2 seasons (previously the top 1-2 in the conference) and have challenged all others pretty close. our downfall has come late in the season as we became more predictable on offense...but that was mainly my fault which i intend to fix.

you certainly have the advantage of gaining players (especially with your trades to help your players or whatever you call it) because you GM like 1,093,834 teams and I am sure you have a nice network. fortunately, i don't have the time to do those things because i have a life and a job outside of GLB. managing my team and it's players is difficult enough.

however, i do look forward to our game to see how much your team has improved from last year. hopefully we will make a few planned additions in the next day or so and stay even more competitive. if we get blown out, i will say your strategy has worked. as of right now and with your history, it is hard to see it happening. good luck and we will see you Game 3.


we don't have a history is my point. Who did we gain? we have brought in no new players from what started last season. We actually lost Two. I guess I should be ashamed to have people think I am a good GM and value my advice. I will try not to network so much as well since its a negative. If you cant see the improvement of our squad you are a moron. Game three.
 
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We are fighting for 1st!!!! Can't wait for game 3.
 
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Originally posted by BuddyHorn

16 South Africa Hitmen 13-3-0
http://goallineblitz.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=2811
Outlook:
A tragic tale of GLB gutting. A once proud and formidable team is left adrift with only cpu players. It will take a modern miracle to avoid relegation. If the new owner makes it happen, the guy will deserve some major props.
Play Makers:


I think you need to learn the definition of gutting... and there wont be a new owner
 
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ok, wrong term. and how was I supposed to know you were the same guy. looked like gutting/fire sale to me. same result
 
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Originally posted by BuddyHorn
ok, wrong term. and how was I supposed to know you were the same guy. looked like gutting/fire sale to me. same result


how is the result the same, if the definition is not... simply put I didn't have time to run the team this season so I put it on a 1 season hiatus, how is that any different then starting a season with all level 1's or some dumb ass "lets all train on intense all season so we can have a .07 exp point advantage on people who train normal / relaxed and actually try and win" strategy...

The fact of the matter is even if my team goes 0-16 and yours goes 16-0 My team will still have been more successful in its first 3 seasons, I just find it funny that a guy from a team who played basically a CPU level squad their 1st season and some half brained intense training strategy the second season comes out the 3rd season and starts slinging insults around... i understand this type of stuff from assholes like LTD but you seemed a lot more intelligent then that...
 
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where did I insult?

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As a memeber of AA#3, i love your proposal of keeping this conference forum active.
Your predictions are great, and in some cases just an opinion from taking a look at the teams.

So far as respectable this is, please don't let this thread become a "why did you put my team in #9 and not in #3?" one, or full of personal issues between owners. Think this is not what is meant for...

Have fun, and thanks BuddyHorn for a great writeup and your work on this conference.

Go Bogarts!
 
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Originally posted by rmead
Originally posted by BuddyHorn

ok, wrong term. and how was I supposed to know you were the same guy. looked like gutting/fire sale to me. same result


how is the result the same, if the definition is not... simply put I didn't have time to run the team this season so I put it on a 1 season hiatus, how is that any different then starting a season with all level 1's or some dumb ass "lets all train on intense all season so we can have a .07 exp point advantage on people who train normal / relaxed and actually try and win" strategy...

The fact of the matter is even if my team goes 0-16 and yours goes 16-0 My team will still have been more successful in its first 3 seasons, I just find it funny that a guy from a team who played basically a CPU level squad their 1st season and some half brained intense training strategy the second season comes out the 3rd season and starts slinging insults around... i understand this type of stuff from assholes like LTD but you seemed a lot more intelligent then that...


Why is everyone pissed off at Buddy for how he built his team? We'll see if it pays off this season or not, but hey he did things how he wanted to do them

rmead... honestly I've been just reading the forums and assumed you had sold/gutted the team. Glad you didn't! but no one on the forums knew what you're plans are... so lay off the people trying to do the best with what they know. If you were doing the ranking on a team similar looking you probably would have said the exact same thing.

 
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Originally posted by toniblay
As a memeber of AA#3, i love your proposal of keeping this conference forum active.
Your predictions are great, and in some cases just an opinion from taking a look at the teams.

So far as respectable this is, please don't let this thread become a "why did you put my team in #9 and not in #3?" one, or full of personal issues between owners. Think this is not what is meant for...

Have fun, and thanks BuddyHorn for a great writeup and your work on this conference.

Go Bogarts!


That was the intention, and you know what I let my intentions slide. I don't like pissing contests. I tried to explain my rationale for a couple of picks, but I let myself get aggravated. I apologize.

Again, I am trying to provide a FUN service to the league. I have done this several years for USA A#1. This one is preseason. Hence the title of way too early.
These things will change, I know that some folks can game plan better than others, some will fix builds with boosts and some with great builds will put there points in places that ruin their builds. This is how GLB works. I will be releasing a magazine right before the season, I think it may be more accurate. Even then its not exact, we will begin to get a little more accurate after week 4. IF you care to examine my work and how close I get with these things, go to the before mentioned USA A#1 thread and peruse over all the thread titled "Week X According to BuddyHorn" I was pretty close to dead on all season with tow exceptions, the Dallas Horns were not as powerful as I predicted, but still made the playoffs, and the newcomer Oklahoma Thunder did everything right and came on as beasts the last quarter of the season. If you count my predictions results all season for individual games, I missed less than 16 games That is 16 weeks, and 16 teams and averaging less than one incorrect pick a week. Nothing I stated in the original post was meant as a slight to anyone. I am honest and will not sugar coat my views. I encourage debate about where your team belongs.. I was wrong however to allow myself to be bated into negative mud slinging. I get frustrated at times with what I consder narrow vision .
 
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Originally posted by smallbugger


Why is everyone pissed off at Buddy for how he built his team? We'll see if it pays off this season or not, but hey he did things how he wanted to do them

rmead... honestly I've been just reading the forums and assumed you had sold/gutted the team. Glad you didn't! but no one on the forums knew what you're plans are... so lay off the people trying to do the best with what they know. If you were doing the ranking on a team similar looking you probably would have said the exact same thing.




See there is the problem right there... you as well as a lot of people seem to be putting selling and gutting into the same category... people can sell a team for a lot of reasons, most of which are benign if not justified, but the term gutting in GLB has a very negative connotation attached to it, to be fair the term gutting or the act of gutting in of itself is a derogatory term.

I wasn't even referring to the insult towards me as an owner for accusing me of gutting my team, even though in no shape or form is my team outside the stipulated rules or the "unspoken rules" concerning the act of gutting. The criteria is pretty simple for a team to be considered gutted... and none of those criteria include leaving it with one of the largest stadiums, one of the biggest bank accounts or some of the highest fan support levels in the league... so even had I sold it, it would have been a new owners dream, not a "A tragic tale of GLB gutting". I ask you, as a new owner could you ask for a better start then a team with a 43,000 seat stadium, 100/90/100 fan support and 20 million in cash... if anything that would be unfair not to the new owner but the other 15 or so owners in his conference who had to start out at default or worse....

I'm also not sure how it is somehow my responsibility to inform anyone that I haven't sold the team before they go and start throwing the single worst accusation that can be made against an owner in this game out in public posts. To be honest not only is that not an excuse for making a statement against my integrity as an owner and a player of this game, the evidence to the contrary is quite easy to glean considering that everything that defines a gutted team is publicly available to anyone playing this game. I don't disagree with the ranking, if this team wins a single game then i will probably quit playing GLB all together because it would be so outlandish, but to throw the snipe in was uncalled for.

As far as being pissed off about how buddy built his team, quite the contrary, I have been a supporter of the cartoon robots since day one. The point was it is a bit narrowed sighted and to be quite honest baselessly arrogant to slander and dissect another team in the league for their strategy or team building when your own strategies are at best unproven and at worst complete failures. It's really that simple.

All that being said I took exception to the fact that my name was connected with this despicable act, opinion or not, it's a baseless and unjustified slander upon my reputation as an owner, and ignorance of the facts is no excuse for that sort of thing. So if you are asking me to "lay off" people who attack my character as an owner publicly, then I will have to respectfully decline. Granted I haven't looked at these forums in a while and probably wont again for a while, but if people have the right to post opinions about me as an owner or the manner in which my team is managed then I have the right to respond.
 
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Originally posted by smallbugger
Originally posted by rmead

Originally posted by BuddyHorn


ok, wrong term. and how was I supposed to know you were the same guy. looked like gutting/fire sale to me. same result


how is the result the same, if the definition is not... simply put I didn't have time to run the team this season so I put it on a 1 season hiatus, how is that any different then starting a season with all level 1's or some dumb ass "lets all train on intense all season so we can have a .07 exp point advantage on people who train normal / relaxed and actually try and win" strategy...

The fact of the matter is even if my team goes 0-16 and yours goes 16-0 My team will still have been more successful in its first 3 seasons, I just find it funny that a guy from a team who played basically a CPU level squad their 1st season and some half brained intense training strategy the second season comes out the 3rd season and starts slinging insults around... i understand this type of stuff from assholes like LTD but you seemed a lot more intelligent then that...


Why is everyone pissed off at Buddy for how he built his team? We'll see if it pays off this season or not, but hey he did things how he wanted to do them




I am not sure why people are questioning the way We have buiilt Cybertron.
Every day I see posts in the main forum whining about new teams being at such a disadvantage. We dont get enough money, we cant get high enough level players and build our stadium. We have to give bonus' that are rediculous. no on wants to come to a bottom league in X region.

I could have built CWM any way I chose. We have access to a network of over 75 teams, coming up with 45 high level players would have been cake. Only I don't like the fact that brand new teams have the ability to sign high level players. I believe you have to build and earn your way up. The fact that at the time we started our league, teams were able to bring in level 24+ players was retarded to me.

We could have 1/4 gutted a few teams and dominated, and no one would know any better. Thats not how I wanted to do it.

The way we built this team was in response to all the whining on the boards by lazy and un imaginative owners. I read the forums and got so irratated at all the poor me, we should be able to dominate now with no effort on our part posts. The sky is falling, the deck is stacked against us if we cant get the greatest players now we will never be able to compete. I think that is BS, I always have. I tried to chirp in and provide reason, but everyone always said that I dont have a team and don't know the obstacles they face. So I bought CWM.

We brought in 95% level 4 and below. We built the team from the ground up. The key to our team is the builds being equal to or better than the next guys, gaining the most XP possible taking advantage of the soft caps and making our builds complement one another.

I brought in players from within and out side our network. We had an open reqruitment appealing to Transformer fans and Longhorn fans. We had a great response.

Management is a proven commodity and IMO on par with any in the game. PT206 and I virtually co-own this team and Indianola, Pysco is our Defensive Coordinator, he has done a magnificent job in Indianola. We had Two consecutive undefeated regular seasons. 1 championship, and honestly should have been two, but I did not have the cojones to do something game plan wise I should have. A#1 was top 8 in GLB our first undefeated season, so we weren't beating garbage division.

We came up with some pretty imaginative and entrepreneurial ways to better our team. it took us two seasons to get to a very nice place IMO. We did it above board and honestly. We don't view playoffs as a goal on CWM, we did on Indianola at first, but that was the wrong thing to do. Hence even though I know we were good enough to get to the playoffs last season we chose to keep building. We upset a couple of teams, which was weird to me with the shape our team was in. this tells me we were a little ahead of where I thought we were.

I view us as a top team in this conference. what is wrong with that? Just because we lost last season? Yeah it is bold that I placed us number two. I wanted to put us number 1. I don't presume that we have the best regular season as thats not our goal. I am telling the readers that when the playoffs start we will be one of the top two teams to beat.

IMO CWM is a statement to whiners throughout GLB that with reasonable goals and expectations there is a way to compete. You don't have to sell out to compete the first season. Just because you don't get playoff money doesn't mean you cant build your stadium.

There is nothing dishonest or immoral about the way the team was constructed.
 
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Originally posted by rmead
Originally posted by smallbugger



Why is everyone pissed off at Buddy for how he built his team? We'll see if it pays off this season or not, but hey he did things how he wanted to do them

rmead... honestly I've been just reading the forums and assumed you had sold/gutted the team. Glad you didn't! but no one on the forums knew what you're plans are... so lay off the people trying to do the best with what they know. If you were doing the ranking on a team similar looking you probably would have said the exact same thing.




See there is the problem right there... you as well as a lot of people seem to be putting selling and gutting into the same category... people can sell a team for a lot of reasons, most of which are benign if not justified, but the term gutting in GLB has a very negative connotation attached to it, to be fair the term gutting or the act of gutting in of itself is a derogatory term.

I wasn't even referring to the insult towards me as an owner for accusing me of gutting my team, even though in no shape or form is my team outside the stipulated rules or the "unspoken rules" concerning the act of gutting. The criteria is pretty simple for a team to be considered gutted... and none of those criteria include leaving it with one of the largest stadiums, one of the biggest bank accounts or some of the highest fan support levels in the league... so even had I sold it, it would have been a new owners dream, not a "A tragic tale of GLB gutting". I ask you, as a new owner could you ask for a better start then a team with a 43,000 seat stadium, 100/90/100 fan support and 20 million in cash... if anything that would be unfair not to the new owner but the other 15 or so owners in his conference who had to start out at default or worse....

I'm also not sure how it is somehow my responsibility to inform anyone that I haven't sold the team before they go and start throwing the single worst accusation that can be made against an owner in this game out in public posts. To be honest not only is that not an excuse for making a statement against my integrity as an owner and a player of this game, the evidence to the contrary is quite easy to glean considering that everything that defines a gutted team is publicly available to anyone playing this game. I don't disagree with the ranking, if this team wins a single game then i will probably quit playing GLB all together because it would be so outlandish, but to throw the snipe in was uncalled for.

As far as being pissed off about how buddy built his team, quite the contrary, I have been a supporter of the cartoon robots since day one. The point was it is a bit narrowed sighted and to be quite honest baselessly arrogant to slander and dissect another team in the league for their strategy or team building when your own strategies are at best unproven and at worst complete failures. It's really that simple.

All that being said I took exception to the fact that my name was connected with this despicable act, opinion or not, it's a baseless and unjustified slander upon my reputation as an owner, and ignorance of the facts is no excuse for that sort of thing. So if you are asking me to "lay off" people who attack my character as an owner publicly, then I will have to respectfully decline. Granted I haven't looked at these forums in a while and probably wont again for a while, but if people have the right to post opinions about me as an owner or the manner in which my team is managed then I have the right to respond.


Hey brother, I was not even slightly trying to insult you. I am glad you did whatever you did to your team in the off season instead of the playoffs. Yes your franchise is in good financial state. Kudos. I don't know if I used the term gutting correctly or not. I just know that one day the team was a top two team in the conference and when I did my write up it was full of CPU. TO me if one day you are a competitive team and the next it is full of cpu it is gutted.

I don't have a problem with your actions in the least, but it is sad that the team won't be able to compete this year. And yes if whoever is running the show makes it compete it will be a miracle.
 
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Yo - your write up looks good and I can definitely see the top six lining up like that.

But, why no love for my man Joe Kain of the Lumberjacks?

He blew up last season - 103 tkls, 10 int's (#3 in Africa AA #3), 27 pd's plus a trip to the pro bowl AND he is now a level 27!!!....don't worry, if you didn't know him last season you will this season...

...not to change the subject or anything.
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