Originally posted by schrauben Originally posted by spindoctor02
About damn time. I was getting sick of that group.
Who'd have thunk that playing a forum mafia game with a bunch of teenagers that live with their parents would be so utterly frustrating? Oh wait...
You sucked that game, it was painfully obvious that you were town to me at least.
I've just been too busy to really dig into things. Combine that with a shitty role and trying to wade through the stupidity of some of those posters, and I just half-assed it.
Originally posted by ryan_grant-25 As a recently certified official, I would like to hear what they missed and what age group?
7th graders, 3 things that really pissed me off were they kept calling my girls for traveling when the defender had their hand on the ball as they were going to the basket. Should have been a jump ball.
Secondly, they never call over the back. There are glaring height differences in at 7th grade and you teach girls to box out and when they do and a taller player goes over their back almost knocking them over it has to be called.
Thirdly, I've been working hard with the girls on drawings charges too, I'm not saying all the contact that they took wasn't a block but there were 3-4 that my girls were in great position with someone driving to the basket and out of control plowing my girls and they won't make that call period.
Anyways it took everything I had to not get T'd up and tossed. Which I would have done had my assistant coach been there.
Originally posted by spindoctor02 I've just been too busy to really dig into things. Combine that with a shitty role and trying to wade through the stupidity of some of those posters, and I just half-assed it.
I know that's why I was sure you were town at the end.
Originally posted by schrauben 7th graders, 3 things that really pissed me off were they kept calling my girls for traveling when the defender had their hand on the ball as they were going to the basket. Should have been a jump ball.
Secondly, they never call over the back. There are glaring height differences in at 7th grade and you teach girls to box out and when they do and a taller player goes over their back almost knocking them over it has to be called.
Thirdly, I've been working hard with the girls on drawings charges too, I'm not saying all the contact that they took wasn't a block but there were 3-4 that my girls were in great position with someone driving to the basket and out of control plowing my girls and they won't make that call period.
Anyways it took everything I had to not get T'd up and tossed. Which I would have done had my assistant coach been there.
As far as officiating girls goes the highest ive done is 6th grade for girls (did college intramurals for boys), from my experience girls at that age are very sloppy so it is difficult, but looking at your 3 things 1. That is bad, perhaps they had a bad angle but that should never be a travel 2. Over the back isnt a foul technically, but from your description it is a pretty clear push unless your girls are displacing their opponent 3. Usually the hardest calls, especially with younger girls, but if there is blatant contact you have to make a call one way or the other. If the defender plays good defense and keeps their hands up i reward them rather than the offense trying to draw contact.
How did you talk to the refs may i ask? When I played intramurals i was pretty disrespectful, but seeing it from the officials point makes the game look different. If there is a questionable foul, next time the ball is on your end of the court and the officials in front of your bench ask them what they saw on that last call. I am pretty good about saying where i saw the contact or say they were not in a legal guarding position. If they say they dont remember that means theyre bsing you.
Originally posted by ryan_grant-25 As far as officiating girls goes the highest ive done is 6th grade for girls (did college intramurals for boys), from my experience girls at that age are very sloppy so it is difficult, but looking at your 3 things 1. That is bad, perhaps they had a bad angle but that should never be a travel 2. Over the back isnt a foul technically, but from your description it is a pretty clear push unless your girls are displacing their opponent 3. Usually the hardest calls, especially with younger girls, but if there is blatant contact you have to make a call one way or the other. If the defender plays good defense and keeps their hands up i reward them rather than the offense trying to draw contact.
How did you talk to the refs may i ask? When I played intramurals i was pretty disrespectful, but seeing it from the officials point makes the game look different. If there is a questionable foul, next time the ball is on your end of the court and the officials in front of your bench ask them what they saw on that last call. I am pretty good about saying where i saw the contact or say they were not in a legal guarding position. If they say they dont remember that means theyre bsing you.
Just my input
If over the back isn't a foul then my old church league owes me a lot of minutes.
3. “Over the Back” – Players are allowed to reach over the back of another player as long as no contact is made. A taller player simply reaching over the back of another player for the rebound (without making contact) has not committed a foul. Again, the referee can call pushing, holding, or illegal contact fouls, but there is no violation called “Over the Back” in the rule book.
Originally posted by Jayadamo 3. “Over the Back” – Players are allowed to reach over the back of another player as long as no contact is made. A taller player simply reaching over the back of another player for the rebound (without making contact) has not committed a foul. Again, the referee can call pushing, holding, or illegal contact fouls, but there is no violation called “Over the Back” in the rule book.
In MS and HS, It's pretty much an auto foul no matter what.
FE games are dumb, because they don't have graveyard forums. Where else are the dead people suppose to post and complain about how the game/player screwed them?
Originally posted by spindoctor02 FE games are dumb, because they don't have graveyard forums. Where else are the dead people suppose to post and complain about how the game/player screwed them?