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I truly pity you guys.

You believe that the planes that hit the towers cut core columns in half with their wings, yet the reinforced concrete came away without a mark. It went through steel core columns like a hot knife through butter, but the reinforcement for concrete made the pentagon immune to damage.

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Reinforcing concrete is placing rebar inside. The outside is still concrete. It would have shown signs of impact.

You can't have the planes destroy steel and then leave no signs of damage to concrete or windows. There is a very obvious logic fail there.

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Originally posted by everyone here except Gnosis

I truly pity you wormser.



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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Originally posted by everyone here except Gnosis

I truly pity you wormser.



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Originally posted by baumusc
This isn't true. You are taking dimensions of a 757 that is on the ground with its landing gear down. The 757 that hit the Pentagon clipped the ground and crashed into the Pentagon afterwards. Once again do you think if this were a vast US government and military conspiracy would they have ever released the video of the crashing jet that hit the building?

"Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."

The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide—not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage."

Seriously? That is the claim... that the wing liquified? Engines, too, I guess.

Originally posted by wormser1971
Seriously? That is the claim... that the wing liquified? Engines, too, I guess.

Actually, he does state that the whole plane liquified. Obviously, I am the one making bad claims.

Originally posted by wormser1971
You believe that the planes that hit the towers cut core columns in half with their wings, yet the reinforced concrete came away without a mark. It went through steel core columns like a hot knife through butter, but the reinforcement for concrete made the pentagon immune to damage.

Seek help

You are comparing two completely different types of collisions into two completely different types of buildings. Listen to the material and structural engineering experts.

Originally posted by baumusc
You are comparing two completely different types of collisions into two completely different types of buildings. Listen to the material and structural engineering experts.

you're not getting it...he IS an electrical engineer. AND he took a few physics classes. So he IS the definitive expert here

Originally posted by wormser1971
Seriously? That is the claim... that the wing liquified? Engines, too, I guess.

They found debris from the engines in the rubble. Also as Skid said they found matching DNA evidence. If you are saying that was all faked or placed at the scene then you are really expanding the number of people that would have to be involved in the cover up and scheme. When you do that you make it impossible to keep everyone quiet about it yet nobody has come forward to tell their story in 12+ years? It doesn't happen like that.