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Originally posted by foshizzel17
It was that way when i was a teenager too. As long as men find two women making out to be sexy, women will engage in bisexual behavior.


Totally, there were always women who were willing to make out with each other for male attention.

But you know what, you would be a lot less willing to find guys willing to make out with each other for female attention.

Probably supports what the study found. Gay men had to commit to that shit, because growing up gay was pretty dangerous. You couldn't just flirt with the idea of being gay... that was likely to make you an outcast and a "fag". So yeah... probably a lot less likely to have men go both ways.

Then again, my co-worker told me that when her lesbian ex went back to dating men, she got totally shunned by the lesbian community. At the pride parade they were very forceful when they told her that she had to wear the "ally" pin... because she was in a hetero relationship.
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Originally posted by Time Trial
Totally, there were always women who were willing to make out with each other for male attention.

But you know what, you would be a lot less willing to find guys willing to make out with each other for female attention.

Probably supports what the study found. Gay men had to commit to that shit, because growing up gay was pretty dangerous. You couldn't just flirt with the idea of being gay... that was likely to make you an outcast and a "fag". So yeah... probably a lot less likely to have men go both ways.

Then again, my co-worker told me that when her lesbian ex went back to dating men, she got totally shunned by the lesbian community. At the pride parade they were very forceful when they told her that she had to wear the "ally" pin... because she was in a hetero relationship.


True story: i dated a chick that had been a lesbian for years. she wanted to go back to men, so we started dating. one night i went to pick her up, and she failed to tell me she still lived with her lesbian ex-girlfriend. the girlfriend was about 5'2" 100 lbs, i pulled up and this girl came out so i rolled my window down and asked for Misty. this chick walked up to my window as calm as she could be.....and punched me in the face!!

Misty did come out and whoop that bitches ass right in front of me. and she was my only squirter.........so it was worth it.
 
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What a great name for a squirter!
 
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Originally posted by foshizzel17
True story: i dated a chick that had been a lesbian for years. she wanted to go back to men, so we started dating. one night i went to pick her up, and she failed to tell me she still lived with her lesbian ex-girlfriend. the girlfriend was about 5'2" 100 lbs, i pulled up and this girl came out so i rolled my window down and asked for Misty. this chick walked up to my window as calm as she could be.....and punched me in the face!!

Misty did come out and whoop that bitches ass right in front of me. and she was my only squirter.........so it was worth it.


Would read again.
 
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Originally posted by Cuivienen
I wonder if people realize how stupid they sound when they ask why others are so concerned with other people's genitals?


I wonder if people realize how stupid they sound spending most of their time talking about other people's genitals?
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

It matters because it undermines the notion that homosexuality "is not a choice," as well as illustrating how much the media influences behavior. As for your second question, what male doesn't like discussing lesbians?


Bisexuality is a thing. Saying 'you like another woman after you liked a man, the entire multi-species notion of homosexuality as inherent is disproven' is incredibly dumb.

Also, take a second to examine your own logic. Choice A results in being considered normal and accepted by everyone around you. Choice B ostracizes you from friends, family, society, and could result in you being murdered simply for choosing B. No one is going to choose B.
 
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Originally posted by rams78110
I wonder if people realize how stupid they sound spending most of their time talking about other people's genitals?


Thanks for answering my question.
 
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Originally posted by foshizzel17
True story: i dated a chick that had been a lesbian for years. she wanted to go back to men, so we started dating. one night i went to pick her up, and she failed to tell me she still lived with her lesbian ex-girlfriend. the girlfriend was about 5'2" 100 lbs, i pulled up and this girl came out so i rolled my window down and asked for Misty. this chick walked up to my window as calm as she could be.....and punched me in the face!!

Misty did come out and whoop that bitches ass right in front of me. and she was my only squirter.........so it was worth it.


My game was so strong at one point, a life long "100%" lesbian (never even kissed a man) begged me to have sex with her. Then she hooked me up with one of her lesbian friends a month later.
 
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Originally posted by rams78110
Bisexuality is a thing. Saying 'you like another woman after you liked a man, the entire multi-species notion of homosexuality as inherent is disproven' is incredibly dumb.

As usual you're incapable of understanding the point and need to be walked through it. Within a generation there has been a massive shift in reported sexuality. That didn't happen because of genes or hormones, as those have not changed dramatically in that time. It has happened because sexual proclivities are heavily influenced by choice, and in this case the large increase is driven by those who see bisexuality and/or homosexuality as appealing. I believe that hormones during pregnancy also play a large part in determining sexuality, but those who have always insisted that choice plays no part in it are being proven wrong.

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Also, take a second to examine your own logic. Choice A results in being considered normal and accepted by everyone around you. Choice B ostracizes you from friends, family, society,

You might want to look around. Homosexuality is clearly celebrated in the media. I'm sure it can still be tough as a teenager depending upon where you live, but it confers protected status on 99% of college campuses.

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and could result in you being murdered simply for choosing B. No one is going to choose B.

So I take it you never heard that Matthew Shepard's death was actually not a hate crime. A journalist discovered that Shepard had a sexual relationship with at least one of the two killers and that the motive actually revolved around methamphetamines. It was covered on 20/20 for ABC.
 
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You mean to tell me... that when acceptance of gay humans increased, the number of people willing to admit they're gay went up? Yeah I just don't get that, we need to walk this back.

"Celebrated in the media" how? How many anchors and hosts are gay outside Ellen? Where are the awards for being gay? I think you've confused acceptance and encouragement for celebration, pretty important line there tex.

The fact that you think there has only been one person ever murdered for being gay is where this argument ends, as you clearly have no idea what you are crying about.
 
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Originally posted by rams78110
You mean to tell me... that when acceptance of gay humans increased, the number of people willing to admit they're gay went up? Yeah I just don't get that, we need to walk this back.

"Celebrated in the media" how? How many anchors and hosts are gay outside Ellen? Where are the awards for being gay? I think you've confused acceptance and encouragement for celebration, pretty important line there tex.

The fact that you think there has only been one person ever murdered for being gay is where this argument ends, as you clearly have no idea what you are crying about.



You're really clueless on this topic and should slow your roll. The concept of even *identifying* as homosexual is a recent (within the last 100 years or so) phenomenon.

There are plenty of people identified with committing homosexual *acts* prior to that, but the idea of being exclusively homosexual is a recent development. Hence, the link to the influence of the media's infatuation with the topic.
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader

You're really clueless on this topic and should slow your roll. The concept of even *identifying* as homosexual is a recent (within the last 100 years or so) phenomenon.

There are plenty of people identified with committing homosexual *acts* prior to that, but the idea of being exclusively homosexual is a recent development. Hence, the link to the influence of the media's infatuation with the topic.


The idea of a germ wasn't well developed until the 1850s, so germs didn't exist before then obviously. See where that logic takes you?

Plenty of people got sick before the 1850s, but the idea of a germ is recent. Hence, modern medicine's infatuation with the topic.

The idea that there isn't a word for something thus it doesn't exist is incredibly permeable logic. Can you say, with certainty, that no single other human before the "last 100 years or so" has had an exclusive attraction to their sex?
 
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And don't take the above post as sarcastic or combative. It is supposed to be helpful. The idea that we've recently come up with a term for something and begun to accept it in no way means it didn't exist before then.
 
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rams is a brave soul, going against larry and jd?

Pick your battles better.
 
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Originally posted by rams78110
You mean to tell me... that when acceptance of gay humans increased, the number of people willing to admit they're gay went up? Yeah I just don't get that, we need to walk this back.

No, we're telling you that researchers have been tracking sexual orientation using the Kinsey scale for nearly seventy years, so we have a lot of data regarding self-identification. That data proves conclusively that, contrary to what you're claiming here, this is not an explosion of people being willing to admit behavior but rather a dramatic increase in the behavior itself. Please do not respond any more until you've learned who Alfred Kinsey is.

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"Celebrated in the media" how? How many anchors and hosts are gay outside Ellen? Where are the awards for being gay? I think you've confused acceptance and encouragement for celebration, pretty important line there tex.

http://i.dlisted.com/files/galleries/spl127860_001.jpg
http://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/2015/06/08/very-gay-friendly-tony-awards

It is not just a matter of "acceptance and encouragement," as being gay currently leads to an increase in positive media attention and professional opportunities. It is undeniably trendy. That's what the huge increase in British and American women identifying as bisexual is about.

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The fact that you think there has only been one person ever murdered for being gay is where this argument ends, as you clearly have no idea what you are crying about.

Nice job attempting to spin your ignorance into my fault. You had no clue about that Matthew Shepard information just as you never have any clue about any discussion on here. It is mind-boggling that you can be so intent on spouting your opinion with absolutely no interest in first educating yourself about anything.
 
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