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Originally posted by tautology
This one is even better.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=531461
Open please
This one is even better.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=531461
Open please
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Originally posted by kurieg
I know a back that has all that right now.
But how or why should the 61 strength help him if he is an elusive hb?
To not fumble?
Carrying + CoverUp
To break tackles?
You are talking about a combo
I know a back that has all that right now.
But how or why should the 61 strength help him if he is an elusive hb?
To not fumble?
Carrying + CoverUp
To break tackles?
You are talking about a combo
blln4lyf
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Originally posted by kurieg
Originally posted by David Stern
I knew there had to be a reason why you guys got beat so bad by drygerian
Ya, 40+% Break tackle gear.
And a lack of changing the DAI, tbh.
Originally posted by David Stern
I knew there had to be a reason why you guys got beat so bad by drygerian
Ya, 40+% Break tackle gear.
And a lack of changing the DAI, tbh.
kurieg
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Wow really?
Ya, I do. I actually didn't realize y'all thought it was that hard.
Wow really?
Ya, I do. I actually didn't realize y'all thought it was that hard.
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Originally posted by blln4lyf
I know, right. Backs that should get only a few touches IRL but can hit the homerun would be able to do the same thing on GLB..makes sense to me.
much like the uber speed WR builds with little catching...they are homerun threats but nothing completely consistent. and from the looks of the latest test server knocked loose fix....soon to be fumble kings...
I know, right. Backs that should get only a few touches IRL but can hit the homerun would be able to do the same thing on GLB..makes sense to me.
much like the uber speed WR builds with little catching...they are homerun threats but nothing completely consistent. and from the looks of the latest test server knocked loose fix....soon to be fumble kings...
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Originally posted by jdbolick
There's a reason why Elusive is called "elusive" and Power is called "power." Bort could have named them "fake" instead of "elusive," but he didn't. Elusive running means to elude defenders by moving away from and around them. Faking defenders is a completely separate skill that is not eluding defenders at all, it's causing those defenders to become immobile.
You are insane. Bort could have named them Break Tackle instead of power. So they shouldn't break tackles. They should just have the ability to power over a defender successfully tackling them and fall forward.
There's a reason why Elusive is called "elusive" and Power is called "power." Bort could have named them "fake" instead of "elusive," but he didn't. Elusive running means to elude defenders by moving away from and around them. Faking defenders is a completely separate skill that is not eluding defenders at all, it's causing those defenders to become immobile.
You are insane. Bort could have named them Break Tackle instead of power. So they shouldn't break tackles. They should just have the ability to power over a defender successfully tackling them and fall forward.
blln4lyf
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Originally posted by jdbolick
There's a reason why Elusive is called "elusive" and Power is called "power." Bort could have named them "fake" instead of "elusive," but he didn't. Elusive running means to elude defenders by moving away from and around them. Faking defenders is a completely separate skill that is not eluding defenders at all, it's causing those defenders to become immobile.
A successful fake eludes a defender.
There's a reason why Elusive is called "elusive" and Power is called "power." Bort could have named them "fake" instead of "elusive," but he didn't. Elusive running means to elude defenders by moving away from and around them. Faking defenders is a completely separate skill that is not eluding defenders at all, it's causing those defenders to become immobile.
A successful fake eludes a defender.
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And does anyone else find it weird that stiff arm is a powerback skill instead of elusive?
Just seems backwards to me. Powerbacks aren't the people I think of with stiff arms, I think of PB's tucking the ball and running over the defense. When I think of stiff arms, I think of elusive backs blowing down the sideline, and sticking their hand in the FS's way to buy a second or two.
Just seems backwards to me. Powerbacks aren't the people I think of with stiff arms, I think of PB's tucking the ball and running over the defense. When I think of stiff arms, I think of elusive backs blowing down the sideline, and sticking their hand in the FS's way to buy a second or two.
Bukowski
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Originally posted by DL24
kurieg, it's obviously not sinking in -- stop posting things that make sense.
That RBs shouldn't need 68 Strength just to not fumble?
lol.
If a Combo back wants to put 68 Strength on his dot, to be able to break a few tackles, then that is great. But what shouldn't be the case, is an Elusive Back needing 68 Strength just not to fumble, when you already have very high Carrying.
kurieg, it's obviously not sinking in -- stop posting things that make sense.
That RBs shouldn't need 68 Strength just to not fumble?
lol.
If a Combo back wants to put 68 Strength on his dot, to be able to break a few tackles, then that is great. But what shouldn't be the case, is an Elusive Back needing 68 Strength just not to fumble, when you already have very high Carrying.
Edited by Bukowski on Dec 30, 2009 21:16:23
TyrannyVaunt
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by David Stern
This is what I don't get. Barry sanders would have been 105 speed 105 agility 80 vision 73 carry 44 str.
Did you miss the point where I said that Barry Sanders set the leg press record for the Oklahoma State football team? Pull up any picture of him on Google and tell me that he wasn't bristling with muscles. The dude was very strong, he just wasn't big.
I am scratching my head with the Barry Sanders strengthless comment. Lets get this straight... YOU CAN'T BUILD BARRY SANDERS. THERE ISN"T ENOUGH SP.
Originally posted by David Stern
This is what I don't get. Barry sanders would have been 105 speed 105 agility 80 vision 73 carry 44 str.
Did you miss the point where I said that Barry Sanders set the leg press record for the Oklahoma State football team? Pull up any picture of him on Google and tell me that he wasn't bristling with muscles. The dude was very strong, he just wasn't big.
I am scratching my head with the Barry Sanders strengthless comment. Lets get this straight... YOU CAN'T BUILD BARRY SANDERS. THERE ISN"T ENOUGH SP.
kurieg
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Originally posted by Phil Jackson
But how or why should the 61 strength help him if he is an elusive hb?
To not fumble?
Carrying + CoverUp
To break tackles?
You are talking about a combo
By holding onto the ball.
Knowing where to carry the ball isn't enough. It will not help you if you don't have the strength to stop your arms getting torn off.
But how or why should the 61 strength help him if he is an elusive hb?
To not fumble?
Carrying + CoverUp
To break tackles?
You are talking about a combo
By holding onto the ball.
Knowing where to carry the ball isn't enough. It will not help you if you don't have the strength to stop your arms getting torn off.
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Originally posted by kurieg
Ya, I do. I actually didn't realize y'all thought it was that hard.
Its not that its hard, its that str should have no application to a true elusive build (which you clearly are not getting).
Ya, I do. I actually didn't realize y'all thought it was that hard.
Its not that its hard, its that str should have no application to a true elusive build (which you clearly are not getting).
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Originally posted by tautology
Originally posted by Meatdawg
Originally posted by kurieg
61 is not High.
Build a 5 68+ attribute LB and come talk to me. You're lost and clueless.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=594888 *OPEN* =p
Will be 6 once i cap jumping
5 over 74
http://goallineblitz.com/game/skill_points.pl?player_id=531461
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Originally posted by Meatdawg
Originally posted by kurieg
61 is not High.
Build a 5 68+ attribute LB and come talk to me. You're lost and clueless.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=594888 *OPEN* =p
Will be 6 once i cap jumping
5 over 74
http://goallineblitz.com/game/skill_points.pl?player_id=531461
fail
kurieg
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Originally posted by Bukowski
That RBs shouldn't need 68 Strength just to not fumble?
lol.
If a Combo back wants to put 68 Strength on his dot, to be able to break a few tackles, then that is great. But what shouldn't be the case, is an Elusive Back needing 68 Strength just not to fumble, when you already have very high Carrying.
Who said 68 Strength?
That RBs shouldn't need 68 Strength just to not fumble?
lol.
If a Combo back wants to put 68 Strength on his dot, to be able to break a few tackles, then that is great. But what shouldn't be the case, is an Elusive Back needing 68 Strength just not to fumble, when you already have very high Carrying.
Who said 68 Strength?
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