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Originally posted by Catullus 16
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an alternative solution aka the cat16 containment thread


performativity.


Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick describes Queer Performativity as an ongoing project for transforming the way we may define - and break - boundaries to identity.




hehe, queer.
Edited by Deathblade on Jun 13, 2009 20:31:15
 
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Originally posted by jakobako
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by jakobako
an alternative solution aka the cat16 containment thread

performativity.

Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick describes Queer Performativity as an ongoing project for transforming the way we may define - and break - boundaries to identity.
hehe, queer.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2807396

join us.
 
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deathblade... what on earth does my suggestion have to do with "affirmative action"?!?
 
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by jakobako

Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by jakobako

an alternative solution aka the cat16 containment thread

performativity.

Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick describes Queer Performativity as an ongoing project for transforming the way we may define - and break - boundaries to identity.
hehe, queer.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2807396

join us.


Whoa, nerd alert. If I want to read a longwinded novel I'll just start from page 1 of this thread ;D

 
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Originally posted by jakobako
Whoa, nerd alert. If I want to read a longwinded novel I'll just start from page 1 of this thread ;D


actually, that thread is just there so oddibe and i don't get banned for making what someone else construes as "homophobic remarks".

seriously.
 
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by jakobako

Whoa, nerd alert. If I want to read a longwinded novel I'll just start from page 1 of this thread ;D


actually, that thread is just there so oddibe and i don't get banned for making what someone else construes as "homophobic remarks".

seriously.


reported.
 
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Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by jakobako
Whoa, nerd alert. If I want to read a longwinded novel I'll just start from page 1 of this thread ;D

actually, that thread is just there so oddibe and i don't get banned for making what someone else construes as "homophobic remarks".
seriously.

your a genius.


please.

and qfyour.
 
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Originally posted by Deathblade

As for people getting insulted for many pages in their innocent thread...it is usually along the lines of "loldots", and "when will you gut?". It's usually not "I'm going to fuck your mom".


I know this is way late, but I think this illustrates how ppl are gunning for CPL (most are either scared or jealous, IMO). USAP is supposed to be the beacon of all that is good and pure in the forums. It's all just so perfect in every way, yet inside it's holy walls TSE has been absolutely bashed (not saying he did or didn't deserve it) worse than anyone I've ever seen bashed in any other league forum. New teams that are a little too cocky are trashed by many. It is not uncommon to be told to fuck your face, to Benoit yourself or be told to do countless other less than pleasant things. Has anyone ever bitched about it to a mod? If it's happened, I sure never heard about it. Hell, I can't even ever remember a single thread being deleted.

I'm not saying that CPL doesn't have its own unique flavor, because it does. However, to pretend the things that happen in CPL don't happen everywhere is being ignorant (not you guys, but the ones that claim how horrid/brutal CPL is).

 
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by Deathblade


As for people getting insulted for many pages in their innocent thread...it is usually along the lines of "loldots", and "when will you gut?". It's usually not "I'm going to fuck your mom".


I know this is way late, but I think this illustrates how ppl are gunning for CPL (most are either scared or jealous, IMO). USAP is supposed to be the beacon of all that is good and pure in the forums. It's all just so perfect in every way, yet inside it's holy walls TSE has been absolutely bashed (not saying he did or didn't deserve it) worse than anyone I've ever seen bashed in any other league forum. New teams that are a little too cocky are trashed by many. It is not uncommon to be told to fuck your face, to Benoit yourself or be told to do countless other less than pleasant things. Has anyone ever bitched about it to a mod? If it's happened, I sure never heard about it. Hell, I can't even ever remember a single thread being deleted.

I'm not saying that CPL doesn't have its own unique flavor, because it does. However, to pretend the things that happen in CPL don't happen everywhere is being ignorant (not you guys, but the ones that claim how horrid/brutal CPL is).



The difference being (and I think someone already brought this up...Ash maybe) that in USA Pro those personal attacks are srsdot people on srsdot people.

The key issue in CPL, really, is that there are two distinctly separate camps (the srsdots and the loldots). Most of the flamewars that happen in CPL are a result of that. So, see, in USA Pro when a srsdot person attacks a srsdot person it is usually about dots so it just gets passed off as "trash-talking". But in CPL when a loldot attacks a srsdot then it becomes something totally different and I'm not saying it is rightly so, but what it becomes to the srsdot person is ridicule for taking dots srs on a message board that is largely intended for srsdot talk.

I'm not saying that a loldot making fun of a srsdot is the result of a loldot trying to eliminate all srsdottalk from CPL but I think they largely feel that is what is going on.
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Edited by X on Jun 15, 2009 00:25:21
 
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Originally posted by X
Originally posted by PP

Originally posted by Deathblade



As for people getting insulted for many pages in their innocent thread...it is usually along the lines of "loldots", and "when will you gut?". It's usually not "I'm going to fuck your mom".


I know this is way late, but I think this illustrates how ppl are gunning for CPL (most are either scared or jealous, IMO). USAP is supposed to be the beacon of all that is good and pure in the forums. It's all just so perfect in every way, yet inside it's holy walls TSE has been absolutely bashed (not saying he did or didn't deserve it) worse than anyone I've ever seen bashed in any other league forum. New teams that are a little too cocky are trashed by many. It is not uncommon to be told to fuck your face, to Benoit yourself or be told to do countless other less than pleasant things. Has anyone ever bitched about it to a mod? If it's happened, I sure never heard about it. Hell, I can't even ever remember a single thread being deleted.

I'm not saying that CPL doesn't have its own unique flavor, because it does. However, to pretend the things that happen in CPL don't happen everywhere is being ignorant (not you guys, but the ones that claim how horrid/brutal CPL is).



The difference being (and I think someone already brought this up...Ash maybe) that in USA Pro those personal attacks are srsdot people on srsdot people.

The key issue in CPL, really, is that there are two distinctly separate camps (the srsdots and the loldots). Most of the flamewars that happen in CPL are a result of that. So, see, in USA Pro when a srsdot person attacks a srsdot person it is usually about dots so it just gets passed off as "trash-talking". But in CPL when a loldot attacks a srsdot then it becomes something totally different and I'm not saying it is rightly so, but what it becomes to the srsdot person is ridicule for taking dots srs on a message board that is largely intended for srsdot talk.

I'm not saying that a loldot making fun of a srsdot is the result of a loldot trying to eliminate all srsdottalk from CPL but I think they largely feel that is what is going on.


I think more than it being about something different the problem is that the srsdot people feel raped because they don't know how to respond. In a srsdot argument if someone goes "you're a fag" they can be like "well my team wins more" or whatever but if someone in CPL says it and they respond like that, then 20 people laugh at the idiot who thinks that was a proper rebuttal, so he's even more abused and, since the loldotter doesn't care abotu the dots, he has no comeback to use and get butthurt so he needs to call daddy for help.
 
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Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by X

Originally posted by PP


Originally posted by Deathblade




As for people getting insulted for many pages in their innocent thread...it is usually along the lines of "loldots", and "when will you gut?". It's usually not "I'm going to fuck your mom".


I know this is way late, but I think this illustrates how ppl are gunning for CPL (most are either scared or jealous, IMO). USAP is supposed to be the beacon of all that is good and pure in the forums. It's all just so perfect in every way, yet inside it's holy walls TSE has been absolutely bashed (not saying he did or didn't deserve it) worse than anyone I've ever seen bashed in any other league forum. New teams that are a little too cocky are trashed by many. It is not uncommon to be told to fuck your face, to Benoit yourself or be told to do countless other less than pleasant things. Has anyone ever bitched about it to a mod? If it's happened, I sure never heard about it. Hell, I can't even ever remember a single thread being deleted.

I'm not saying that CPL doesn't have its own unique flavor, because it does. However, to pretend the things that happen in CPL don't happen everywhere is being ignorant (not you guys, but the ones that claim how horrid/brutal CPL is).



The difference being (and I think someone already brought this up...Ash maybe) that in USA Pro those personal attacks are srsdot people on srsdot people.

The key issue in CPL, really, is that there are two distinctly separate camps (the srsdots and the loldots). Most of the flamewars that happen in CPL are a result of that. So, see, in USA Pro when a srsdot person attacks a srsdot person it is usually about dots so it just gets passed off as "trash-talking". But in CPL when a loldot attacks a srsdot then it becomes something totally different and I'm not saying it is rightly so, but what it becomes to the srsdot person is ridicule for taking dots srs on a message board that is largely intended for srsdot talk.

I'm not saying that a loldot making fun of a srsdot is the result of a loldot trying to eliminate all srsdottalk from CPL but I think they largely feel that is what is going on.


I think more than it being about something different the problem is that the srsdot people feel raped because they don't know how to respond. In a srsdot argument if someone goes "you're a fag" they can be like "well my team wins more" or whatever but if someone in CPL says it and they respond like that, then 20 people laugh at the idiot who thinks that was a proper rebuttal, so he's even more abused and, since the loldotter doesn't care abotu the dots, he has no comeback to use and get butthurt so he needs to call daddy for help.


Oh yeah, this is largely true. Just the fact that they are srsdots gives the loldots ammunition and a soft spot to attack. But the reverse isn't true. Makes it largely one-sided.
 
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Originally posted by X
Makes it largely one-sided.


hence my yammering about asymmetry.

 
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I see what you guys are saying, and mostly agree, but I don't think any amount of rules will change it. It's a strong survive type forum. To one extent or another, every public forum in GLB is. The differences are in how it's dealt with in CPL (the style intimidates many outsiders, as both X and Azure Dreams have pointed out, but rules won't change that) and that a large segment of CPL is extremely proud of their identity within GLB (which leads to the "no fair" croud screaming for heads). I just don't see how extra rules will change anything, except for diminish the enjoyment the majority of CPLers currently experience. If you want intimidate and make someone look like a fool, if they aren't mentally strong enough, it's always going to happen.

Hell, look at all the rules in HSs compared to when I was in HS. It is sooooooo much easier to get in significant trouble for fighting and "picking on" kids than it was when I went, yet, listening to the stories my kids tell, it really isn't any different. If anything, it's considerably worse. It just takes on a new style.
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Originally posted by PP
I see what you guys are saying, and mostly agree, but I don't think any amount of rules will change it. It's a strong survive type forum. To one extent or another, every public forum in GLB is. The differences are in how it's dealt with in CPL (the style intimidates many outsiders, as both X and Azure Dreams have pointed out, but rules won't change that) and that a large segment of CPL is extremely proud of their identity within GLB (which leads to the "no fair" croud screaming for heads). I just don't see how extra rules will change anything, except for diminish the enjoyment the majority of CPLers currently experience. If you want intimidate and make someone look like a fool, if they aren't mentally strong enough, it's always going to happen.

Hell, look at all the rules in HSs compared to when I was in HS. It is sooooooo much easier to get in significant trouble for fighting and "picking on" kids than it was when I went, yet, listening to the stories my kids tell, it really isn't any different. If anything, it's considerably worse. It just takes on a new style.


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lol....typo...."no fair" crowd
 
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