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Drachir
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Originally posted by Silvertooth
I'm at a loss to be honest.

The Badgers season has gone to hell in a handbasket and i can't figure out why. We can't stop the run anymore, or the pass, we can't run the ball, and we can't even pass it anymore - and we have the league's #1 passing offense (or did before this game - haven't checked afterwards).

I don't know if this is down to Bort's mid-season changes, but we're sucking at things we used to excel at, and nothing i try and change seems to have any effect.

At this point I don't even care about results, i'd just like some rationale to the performances. After such a strong start we're not even going to break .500, which is ridiculous given how we were playing in the first half of the year.

Well played Dublin, you soundly won that.


In all seriousness you have nothing to be ashamed of as Bushy Park has come far along with Bordeaux. You just ran into the toughest part of your schedule to end the season. Sure you had some games to start the season with Stockholm to open and Inverness a few weeks later but nothing like facing several playoff teams the past 4-5 weeks in Dallas, Dublin, Berlin and Birmingham.

The 2 new teams have fit in nicely into this league and quite frankly Italian scares me going into the playoffs as they can make some noise. Inverness is the London of last season and will go undefeated this season into the playoffs. It appears as Birmingham and Berlin are always quality teams but they are stuck in WE AA#1 for life. This season once again there are several teams worthy of being promoted to AAA.
 
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Great game whitechapel, something just isnt right in the stags camp and we think that we have figured it out. We have had 3 very close losses and then a big loss to you . Good luck in the playoffs, we hope to have many more memorable matches with you guys!
 
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Originally posted by brady2moss2endzone
we lost to be PGL by 3


well what did i say....
 
Silvertooth
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To be honest it's not the schedule that's undone us. We ran with tough teams early in the season, and it's a clear indication of how far we've fallen that instead of beating teams like Dallas, Italian and Dublin, we're being blown away by them.

The conference is so close that those 5 or 6 teams in the middle are all tough, in the beginning of the season we were beating them, and now we're getting blown off the field.

There are major wrongs at Bushy Park at the moment, and i don't have any idea how to fix them as things stand.
 
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Originally posted by Drachir
Originally posted by Silvertooth

I'm at a loss to be honest.

The Badgers season has gone to hell in a handbasket and i can't figure out why. We can't stop the run anymore, or the pass, we can't run the ball, and we can't even pass it anymore - and we have the league's #1 passing offense (or did before this game - haven't checked afterwards).

I don't know if this is down to Bort's mid-season changes, but we're sucking at things we used to excel at, and nothing i try and change seems to have any effect.

At this point I don't even care about results, i'd just like some rationale to the performances. After such a strong start we're not even going to break .500, which is ridiculous given how we were playing in the first half of the year.

Well played Dublin, you soundly won that.


In all seriousness you have nothing to be ashamed of as Bushy Park has come far along with Bordeaux. You just ran into the toughest part of your schedule to end the season. Sure you had some games to start the season with Stockholm to open and Inverness a few weeks later but nothing like facing several playoff teams the past 4-5 weeks in Dallas, Dublin, Berlin and Birmingham.

The 2 new teams have fit in nicely into this league and quite frankly Italian scares me going into the playoffs as they can make some noise. Inverness is the London of last season and will go undefeated this season into the playoffs. It appears as Birmingham and Berlin are always quality teams but they are stuck in WE AA#1 for life. This season once again there are several teams worthy of being promoted to AAA.


Blaming mid-season changes is wrong! Totally wrong!

According to me, stockholm wasn't ready for the season start. Perhaps late boosters or AI not ready. I don't know. I'm sure they will probably win the game if they face us again.

Drachir is right. The first part of the schedule was easy and the second was very difficult.

Italian and Dallas was underrated teams but i was affraid of them since the beginning.

My final 4 (on playoff)will be: Inverness, Stallions, Berlin and Birmingham. IF standing stay like this. But the 4 first teams will surely be them for regular season.

To all bushy: I'm sorry for you guys but i think you were like us, a little too enthusiastic with our beginning of season. Reality has striken us hard and we will finish where we belong to.

 
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We were fully expecting to come back down to earth after a strong start, we never thought we were going to contend to win anything, but we've gone from being in close games against anybody, to being blown out by teams at our level. This isn't just the schedule getting tougher, it's something else as well.

 
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Can you explain me why it has touched only your team? At Bordeaux we have continued to play like before. I have seen no differences between start and mid-season except of our schedule.
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Ampersand
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Originally posted by Cedo
Can you explain me why it has touched only your team? At Bordeaux we have continued to play like before. I have seen no differences between start and mid-season except of our schedule.


There's no point blaming the schedule. I can't comment on Bordeaux since I don't pay attention as much to you but ST is right. It's not so much the fact we're losing, that's part of the game, but rather what we used to do well is being totally shut down and we're actually playing worse than we did last season.

Do you understand that bit Cedo? We're playing worse than we did last season. Do I need to say it one more time? We're playing worse than we did last season.

Not "we're losing wah wah wah" but "we're playing worse than we did last season". I have no problem with Dublin beating us, I have no problem with any of our defeats but the difference is striking.
 
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Originally posted by Cedo
To all bushy: I'm sorry for you guys but i think you were like us, a little too enthusiastic with our beginning of season. Reality has striken us hard and we will finish where we belong to.


Couldn't disagree any more with you. We're realistic. In fact, we border on pessimistic. We hoped and aimed for a playoff spot but we knew there were several teams that were better than us.

People say the start of the season was easy. I'm sorry I'm not about to show such disrepsect to those teams we faced.

 
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Originally posted by Ampersand
Originally posted by Cedo

Can you explain me why it has touched only your team? At Bordeaux we have continued to play like before. I have seen no differences between start and mid-season except of our schedule.


There's no point blaming the schedule. I can't comment on Bordeaux since I don't pay attention as much to you but ST is right. It's not so much the fact we're losing, that's part of the game, but rather what we used to do well is being totally shut down and we're actually playing worse than we did last season.

Do you understand that bit Cedo? We're playing worse than we did last season. Do I need to say it one more time? We're playing worse than we did last season.

Not "we're losing wah wah wah" but "we're playing worse than we did last season". I have no problem with Dublin beating us, I have no problem with any of our defeats but the difference is striking.


No one outside of your team can truly comment on this and be rational, they would have to see all of your builds to do that, maybe after the season, if you want, you can talk to someone, about them, but the sim is moving towards being more realistic, so having players with 90 speed, 40 agility and 30 catching, and expecting them to catch balls is unrealistic, having LB with 50 strength, 80 speed, 40 agility and 30 tackling and expecing them to tackle, is unrealistic.

Now having said that, I don't know what your builds are, so I could be wrong, you could have the best builds in the league, but judging on performance and what you are saying, I would have to say no, that some of you guys tried to take advantage of the exploits in seasons 1,2 and 3, and that finally got changed in season 4.

If you want, let me know, PM me, and I can point you to someone who can give you some more help if you are comfortable with sharing your builds, not with me, but with someone outside the league.
 
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Originally posted by Cedo
Can you explain me why it has touched only your team? At Bordeaux we have continued to play like before. I have seen no differences between start and mid-season except of our schedule.


I wish i knew - then i might be able to fix it
 
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Originally posted by sjmay
Originally posted by Ampersand

Originally posted by Cedo


Can you explain me why it has touched only your team? At Bordeaux we have continued to play like before. I have seen no differences between start and mid-season except of our schedule.


There's no point blaming the schedule. I can't comment on Bordeaux since I don't pay attention as much to you but ST is right. It's not so much the fact we're losing, that's part of the game, but rather what we used to do well is being totally shut down and we're actually playing worse than we did last season.

Do you understand that bit Cedo? We're playing worse than we did last season. Do I need to say it one more time? We're playing worse than we did last season.

Not "we're losing wah wah wah" but "we're playing worse than we did last season". I have no problem with Dublin beating us, I have no problem with any of our defeats but the difference is striking.


No one outside of your team can truly comment on this and be rational, they would have to see all of your builds to do that, maybe after the season, if you want, you can talk to someone, about them, but the sim is moving towards being more realistic, so having players with 90 speed, 40 agility and 30 catching, and expecting them to catch balls is unrealistic, having LB with 50 strength, 80 speed, 40 agility and 30 tackling and expecing them to tackle, is unrealistic.

Now having said that, I don't know what your builds are, so I could be wrong, you could have the best builds in the league, but judging on performance and what you are saying, I would have to say no, that some of you guys tried to take advantage of the exploits in seasons 1,2 and 3, and that finally got changed in season 4.

If you want, let me know, PM me, and I can point you to someone who can give you some more help if you are comfortable with sharing your builds, not with me, but with someone outside the league.
I don't think that's it at all - the only build we have like that is currently having one of the best seasons in the conference.

It's simply a case of what we used to do well as a team has gone to hell, and what we used to be ok at has become abysmal, with little change from our end.



 
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You lack something: perspective. Generally a team do something AGAINST another team. So if you are an excellent passing team against some teams, you will probably suck against another.

That's what i say, and that's the reality for GLB or IRL.
 
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Originally posted by Cedo
You lack something: perspective. Generally a team do something AGAINST another team. So if you are an excellent passing team against some teams, you will probably suck against another.

That's what i say, and that's the reality for GLB or IRL.


Not at all. No one is complaining about interceptions being thrown or what have you. That's just good defense and I tip my hat to Dublin and the other teams. They out planned us, easy.

Plus at the end of the day it is just a game so it's not like it's going to ruin my night, but it is a bit frustrating
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Silvertooth
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Look - we're really not sufficiently stupid that we're not capable of analysing who we're playing and figuring out what we should be able to do and what we shouldn't be able to do.

Taking into account opposition there has been a DRAMATIC change in the performances of the Badgers over the course of the season, and it simply doesn't get explained either by saying that the schedule got harder, or that unlabanced builds got nixed - since the only real unbalanced build we have is currently tearing it up.

Now i'm fully prepared to admit that in attempts to try and fix whatever's gone wrong i might have actually made it worse, and i know on a couple of occasions we've simply outthought ourselves in the gameplan and gone away from what we do well, but the fact remains that we're now getting blown away by teams that we shouldn't be, and we're playing significantly worse than early in the season, and even down the stretch last year when we were giving good teams a good game.

We're being absolutely dominated, and there's no way that would be happening if we were playing as we were at the start of the year.

Maybe we'd still lose the games, but it wouldn't be because we got blown off the field.
 
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