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Originally posted by dredgar
I was using him as an example, this is true for any super team. Kickers are the cheapest cost dot on a roster, this is a fact. If I can sign more and sign them to a low contract, I can make him do what i want and I can fit another super star somewhere on my team at the same time. that is very clear on why it is bad for the game. It is then allowing us to make cheaper bad dots so we can make more supers. I don't want that as part of the game. It was removed by BORT, the maker of the game, for a reason already once. If the maker of the game saw it as a problem, makes sense.

If we make kickoff specialists then teams that make return guys become worthless and that takes away from part of the games excitement.

The salary saved on the one kicker isn't actually enough to fund 4 more S* like Ellix is making it out to be

It's like 500k difference to a cpu oline type

Originally posted by ellix
I don't want teams of 20 Supers. No one else seems to either.

I don't think this is true, I was almost exclusively alone in arguing to reduce the amount of S*s on a team during the long offseason we just had.

Originally posted by HayRow
I don't think this is true, I was almost exclusively alone in arguing to reduce the amount of S*s on a team during the long offseason we just had.

You'll find that the trait rework, Prodigy and salary increases accomplished exactly that.

You also don't seem to understand the exploit.

You think you can exploit the roster to sign one extra kicker, but when you try to sign a third it says, "No, no, mate. I already gave you one past the hard limit."

No, it doesn't. So I can sign 36 Kickers if I so desired.

Ergo I can fit a shit load of more stars on my roster.

Originally posted by ellix
Sure. And if we want to discuss moving to stop that, that's more than fine by me.

Now let's get back on topic. I don't want teams of 20 Supers. No one else seems to either.

Despite whatever you tend to believe, the majority of us love choices and choosing what to star is part of that choice. In fact, the reason people love stars so much in the first place is that they do exactly that, open up build options to explore more ideas.

If you haven't considered that the end game of this exploit is 22 Stars on a roster, a Punter, and 13 kickers - than maybe you don't understand the repercussions of what you're trying to argue for.

The joke is that you all look at the dramatical extreme as your defense for conservatism in this game. If this is a quality arguments from a “better user” then I think we should get rid of the suggestions tab.

Bc what a croc of shite.

Originally posted by TyDavis315
The joke is that you all look at the dramatical extreme as your defense for conservatism in this game. If this is a quality arguments from a “better user” then I think we should get rid of the suggestions tab.

Bc what a croc of shite.

Cool bud.

Originally posted by ellix
You'll find that the trait rework, Prodigy and salary increases accomplished exactly that.

You also don't seem to understand the exploit.

You think you can exploit the roster to sign one extra kicker, but when you try to sign a third it says, "No, no, mate. I already gave you one past the hard limit."

No, it doesn't. So I can sign 36 Kickers if I so desired.

Ergo I can fit a shit load of more stars on my roster.

How exactly are you getting all these stars ellix? And how are all your associates getting their stars? All I’m seeing is you admit that YOU PERSONALLY would exploit the game.

I could use a second kicker against Kentucky, their ST is always a headache.

I could use a second kicker against Southside, their HB is always something.

Hell most of us could use a second kicker for kickoffs on a lot of these teams. There was still hella special teams touchdowns even with two kickers. And there are still punts so the whole return game argument seems more like baseless whining.

Originally posted by TyDavis315
How exactly are you getting all these stars ellix? And how are all your associates getting their stars? All I’m seeing is you admit that YOU PERSONALLY would exploit the game.

I could use a second kicker against Kentucky, their ST is always a headache.

I could use a second kicker against Southside, their HB is always something.

Hell most of us could use a second kicker for kickoffs on a lot of these teams. There was still hella special teams touchdowns even with two kickers. And there are still punts so the whole return game argument seems more like baseless whining.


OK? Sure, I'd do it. Are you under the impression this is some kind of gotcha?

And it would only be me and the rest of everyone would live in happiness and harmony because I'm some evil nefarious force behind the game.

Nevermind that I'm the one who kept pushing to get it fixed in the first place.

Is there anything else you need to yell at me about for having the audacity to get a game breaking exploit fixed, or are you done with your tantrum?

Please stop guys or I will be locking down this thread and any like it.
I encourage you to voice your ideas and opinions but I ask you to be respectful of others in doing so

Originally posted by agerm73
Please stop guys or I will be locking down this thread and any like it.
I encourage you to voice your ideas and opinions but I ask you to be respectful of others in doing so

let the hate flow sir

Originally posted by dredgar
Also FS do not have a out of position penalty when playing SS, this was giving to us directly from bort and corndog. They cost the exact same amount on your salary cap as well so makes no difference using FS or SS when it comes to salary cap and what not.



"I think" the safeties themselves whether be strong or free have different base statistics. I cant make a FS hit as hard as a SS despite the same exact creation attributes. Otherwise, if it didnt matter why is it being done is what Ty is getting at. Why not just make the corresponding position if it doesnt matter.

Originally posted by ellix

I'm not sure how you take a mechanic that Bort quite literally built into the game and pretend it's an exploit, while trying to use that as a foil for someone explicitly going around the intentions of the game. But I get the feeling that you don't really care about facts and just want to be self righteous...

Id be careful on the self righteous

Originally posted by dredgar
and are you saying my explanation was hypocrisy?


Thanks for joining my ted talk guys....love you all

youre just a jerk

Originally posted by HayRow
I don't think this is true, I was almost exclusively alone in arguing to reduce the amount of S*s on a team during the long offseason we just had.

Its funny because they literally argued of why sooo many superstars should be allowed. I think they used "building diversity" by having S* that can do it all.

You guys do know the game used to allow for 2 kickers and Bort specifically limited it because he didn't like the direction it was taking the game - right?

Like specifically Bort changed this due to seeing how it was effecting the game, he didn't want there to never be a return kickoff again, he didn't want teams to be able to have that AND have a perfect kicker with no S* investment. He wanted diversity in the area.

If you want to talk about why you should have those things and the game should be cookie-cuttered in that way- I'm sure he'd be fine to listen to it.