Warrior General Games

Concept of knowledge is to build on something. U cant just get into this game without using tips from others. Top players pushed the level so high that U will never catch up. Just Try to catch up by collecting gems from others - then combine it into to sth even stronger

Standing on the shoulders of giants is a metaphor which means "Using the understanding gained by major thinkers who have gone before in order to make intellectual progress".

Originally posted by Cybertron
Dude, not trying to be a dick but everything you just said is wrong. EVERYTHING. I don't know who is giving you this "advice" but I would seek advice elsewhere.

- never take return specialist...and never have a player whose only job is to return kicks. That is a waste of cap space
- late bloomer is terrible for most players...
- 3rd and 13+...run up the middle or outside...you will get sacked 99% of the time if you try to pass
- those roll out play action passes are sack city....only PA if the QB stays in the pocket

jesus christ... i just was giving an explanation.. i didnt know this stuff.. he asked and i answered and im wrong..my answer is not wrong.. that's what happened.. thats why things were they way they were.. that is it. it wasnt scripture.. it was just an answer. no one gave me that advice.. that was me testing stuff.. you know.. the advice im getting?

not trying to be a dick would be wording it in a respectful way.. not using bold, italicized font to stress EVERYTHING.. thats still being a dick. all you have to say is something like... the last 4 bullet points you made. that whole 3rd and 13+ theory though.. seems wrong to me.. apparently in real life 3rd and 13 works if you rush.. but if its 3rd and 12 or 3rd and 14.. passing is recommended. i dont think i ever remember even seeing or hearing someone run it on 3rd and long.. and i played a long time. it could be true in this game though.. i dont know

Oh these get spammed often so knowing them would same you a lot of trouble. What I would do...
Originally posted by Kvothe27
1. Say I have a tendency to run outside (HB Sweep Left, HB Sweep Right) from Big I. What play do you call to stop me?
I would run Cover 2 sink or 2 DE Flats. Really any zone play that spreads people out tbh
Originally posted by Kvothe27
2a. Say I like to call exclusively passes to my TE from a 3WR formation. What play do you call to stop me?
Oh look my offense. To defend this I would run C1 TE Smother or C2 TE Smother. No clue what the difference is but boy do they work. There are more plays out there but I'm bad at the game so I don't know them. (humble brag : notice since I have a hybrid defense I can choose the best plays from both zone and man )
Originally posted by Kvothe27
2b. Say I like to call exclusively passes to my TE from a 3WR formation, but it's 3rd and 20. What play do you call to stop me?
BLITZ!!! SEND EVERYONE! KILL THE DAMN QB!!! BLITZ FOR ALL YOUR WORTH! The way the game works is that on 3rd down the QB won't pass the ball unless the receiver is past the 1st down. You can almost always sack the QB before this happens. This is why on 3rd and long it's best to just concede defeat and hand the ball off.
Originally posted by Kvothe27
3. Say a team throws 30 times to their star TE, and he catches 25 of those 30 passes, even when you have him double and triple teamed. Do you know what single stat in particular that TE probably has maxed out? Do you know what single stat their QB probably has maxed?
Oh look my offense again! TE has maxed CIT and QB has maxed Pass Tech with "Thread The Needle" as the signature ability. Make the QB a S* too and this is essentially my passing offense.

Originally posted by Raid
Yeah, slow-built really should be removed from the game - it is never a net benefit to a build.

No....I have it on one of my players. And that player will be a big key in certain games. It is useful in very specific situations.

Originally posted by Raid
just all-over stat cost increase is insanely bad... I can't think of a niche that can't be recreated with other build aspects that would make the build better.

This guy has slow built. I'll let you try to guess why he took it.

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/349528

Originally posted by Gadz
i answered the comments and criticisms (constructive as they were) with the explanation as in why.. didnt say you were wrong, didnt say that it was the best it was going to get.. didnt say i was going to keep it that way.. just said why.. you were asking me if i even know what my team did.. i was giving you part of that answer to that question. the return specialist doesnt do anything buy returns.. i had no idea no one else used a RB for that and i thought it was good as he won the award for special teams (granted it could be due to the fact that he got 20+ kick off returns in a game lol). being told i dont know what im talking about when im answering a question or giving my reasoning is insulting.. then telling me im more interested in arguing when you are the one that initiated it all is insulting.. then when people tell me to discuss and debate this stuff and then getting told im arguing and dont know what im talking about.. that is insulting.. it doesnt make me want to seek help it just makes me want to stop playing and move on to another game on more even ground..

You shouldn't take it personally. You were just given bad advice, is all.

Originally posted by Gadz
jesus christ... i just was giving an explanation.. i didnt know this stuff.. he asked and i answered and im wrong..my answer is not wrong.. that's what happened.. thats why things were they way they were.. that is it. it wasnt scripture.. it was just an answer. no one gave me that advice.. that was me testing stuff.. you know.. the advice im getting?

not trying to be a dick would be wording it in a respectful way.. not using bold, italicized font to stress EVERYTHING.. thats still being a dick. all you have to say is something like... the last 4 bullet points you made. that whole 3rd and 13+ theory though.. seems wrong to me.. apparently in real life 3rd and 13 works if you rush.. but if its 3rd and 12 or 3rd and 14.. passing is recommended. i dont think i ever remember even seeing or hearing someone run it on 3rd and long.. and i played a long time. it could be true in this game though.. i dont know

lol...sorry, I got carried away with the bold EVERYTHING.

Originally posted by Gadz
jesus christ... i just was giving an explanation.. i didnt know this stuff.. he asked and i answered and im wrong..my answer is not wrong.. that's what happened.. thats why things were they way they were.. that is it. it wasnt scripture.. it was just an answer. no one gave me that advice.. that was me testing stuff.. you know.. the advice im getting?

not trying to be a dick would be wording it in a respectful way.. not using bold, italicized font to stress EVERYTHING.. thats still being a dick. all you have to say is something like... the last 4 bullet points you made. that whole 3rd and 13+ theory though.. seems wrong to me.. apparently in real life 3rd and 13 works if you rush.. but if its 3rd and 12 or 3rd and 14.. passing is recommended. i dont think i ever remember even seeing or hearing someone run it on 3rd and long.. and i played a long time. it could be true in this game though.. i dont know

I promise you people are not trying to insult you, rather express with the utmost amount of intensity possible that errors have been made - these are errors we have all made and we don't want to see others trip into these same pitfalls. Take some time, talk to people - not on the forums but use the chat function where responses can be much more free flow. It's because we're trying to have a conversation in a forum that you might be reading into these posts as more vitriolic than intended.

Make the forums searchable. In helps the new users especially.

Originally posted by Bretto007
Make the forums searchable. In helps the new users especially.

Yes please.

Originally posted by Gadz
jesus christ... i just was giving an explanation.. i didnt know this stuff.. he asked and i answered and im wrong..my answer is not wrong.. that's what happened.. thats why things were they way they were.. that is it. it wasnt scripture.. it was just an answer. no one gave me that advice.. that was me testing stuff.. you know.. the advice im getting?

not trying to be a dick would be wording it in a respectful way.. not using bold, italicized font to stress EVERYTHING.. thats still being a dick. all you have to say is something like... the last 4 bullet points you made. that whole 3rd and 13+ theory though.. seems wrong to me.. apparently in real life 3rd and 13 works if you rush.. but if its 3rd and 12 or 3rd and 14.. passing is recommended. i dont think i ever remember even seeing or hearing someone run it on 3rd and long.. and i played a long time. it could be true in this game though.. i dont know

A great starting point in character building is identifying what you want your character to achieve and determine what stats need to be to get the desired results.

Personally I don't boost any players that are not free 16% more SP is substantial and the extra silver skill is great. Cap boosts are a way to force a build to work or force an aspect into a different build. Really the thing about cap boosts is you get more play time.

That all being said I try build better and more specifically to negate those disadvantages. I also scrim A LOT. 50+ times a season conservatively. Studying my team and the other team and how they perform or I'm just bored and want a game to watch lol.

Originally posted by Gadz
the biggest complaint i have seen about this game is the difference between good teams and everyone else. almost like there is a secret loop-hole that separates the great teams and everyone else. i went through my first real season in sophomore level (rookie season i started with like 7 games left) and barely finished with a winning record.. while still being shut out by the good teams and some CPU teams. used scout and improved my players but will never make playoffs cause i have more than 3 or 4 losses in a year. still getting shut out often or losing by over 50 points. i have done all the research and spent so much money recreating guys to have the very best.. using examples from the top teams and advice from the top players for getting absolutely destroyed.. I spent hours today as well as more throughout the past few days preparing for the game.. seeing tendencies, key players, and set up my whole scheme to at least so them down.. and i was stomped.. easily stomped.. 70+ to zero... granted my team is Journeymen going against Professional.. but they used the same plays i schemed against.. and just wrecked me. they were pulling off all sorts of TRIPLE covered catches and running sweeps like they were playing against little kids with their feet caught in bear traps. my players are pretty good.. and when i play against teams my own level.. the good ones still stomp all over me.. and its mathematically impossible that they are 50+ points better. this is why most people dont stick with this game.. i have spent so much money just trying to be competitive and instead its just an embarrassment and proving i shouldnt be playing nor spending money.

the 2 things i hear about this game is the community and how great it is and how big the separation is between competitive and not competitive. I agree for the most part that the community is great.. its small but awesome for most part. awesome by the few people that i have talked to are very helpful they share tips on schemes, players, etc... but there is something.. that good teams do that no one else does to be able to beat CPU teams 100 to ZERO. that never happens.. in real football there are even rules against it.. schools get fined for that kind of a slaughter. i finally beat a CPU team 47-0.. first time i have won a game like that.. to my next game to be shut out 72-0. and it was a game I schemed specifically for. I coach in real life and have done so for a few years now and im fairly decent at it. But as most of you should know.. when it comes to a program.. there are a few key plays, schemes, codes, loopholes, etc that trump over all others because of the programming. it has to be what is being done here. I cant just make players and not worry about a team cause no one will hire the players.. i have to be on a CPU team. then the stats will never be good and i will never make an allstar game. every good team has a full team of human players.. which makes sense.. but then my rookie team (that everyone tells me i should start out at) is all human players.. all made to play off each other.. chemistry is at 50 which sucks.. but whatever.. the first team i play against i scheme for the run.. they have maybe 7-10 players on offense.. the rest of the team is CPU players at a lower chemistry. they dont pass...a SINGLE time.. i schemed for the run.. they still rushed for over 200 yards and beat me 13-3... are you kidding me?!? me as an over age and over weight man playing with a team completely made up of different cheeses from across the world would have done better at stopping the run.. since i ever knew where it was gonna go..

the only advice i get after these losses is "take your beatings and just try better" or "start as a rookie team and learn everything" or "make better players and scheme towards that".... well.. what now.. i have done all of that and its still happening. this is why the community is so small.. once people get in and waste time and money they quit.. there shouldnt be this huge of a learning curve.. there shouldnt be a secret way to scheme to take advantage of flawed software or loopholes in the coding..

now on that 72-0 super loss that i just had.. i get it if my offense wasnt good enough to get by a good defense.. i have a few flawed players in my offense that im making replacements on. but when i scheme a defense to go against an offense i knew that was coming.. 72 points should have not been scored.. flawless passing and nearly 300 yards from a running back that i was keying up on should never happen.

I have superstar players that are inactive on my team.. it gives me the option to clone them so i can boot them (as he is my first string) but i dont have to flex points.. so i buy more flex points.. now it says i dont have enough.. which i clearly do.. im guessing because he is a superstar but that warning should be there before i spend MORE money on this game for disappointment. I had to buy scout again cause buy it for the season with just 4 weeks left counts as an entire season.. also considering that it took 3 weeks of no help to finally get it all working (email issues on the server side.. not my fault).. i kind of got ripped off.. so i had to spend MORE money cause no one will answer me to resubscribe to get it.. use it.. scheme for a game that i was still beat 72-0.


Gadz coming from someone who took a similar path as jumping into ownership of a sophomore team with no experience i know the growing pains (back in a late teen season). Most of the Legends of this game are gold mines, I was fortunate to join Myriks staff and learned immensely, once I reset my initial team after a run to vet knowledge gained helped immensely with tactics builds and, play calling.... Sometimes we over complicate the Sim as I had playbooks with 15 plays for each formation. Calling different plays is good for different opponents but if its not a scrimmage its not necessary. Scores and outcomes may be frustrating, but don't be discouraged, learning and improving is what makes wins against the greats sweet in the end. Best of Luck!

Originally posted by Da Phenom

Gadz coming from someone who took a similar path as jumping into ownership of a sophomore team with no experience i know the growing pains (back in a late teen season). Most of the Legends of this game are gold mines, I was fortunate to join Myriks staff and learned immensely, once I reset my initial team after a run to vet knowledge gained helped immensely with tactics builds and, play calling.... Sometimes we over complicate the Sim as I had playbooks with 15 plays for each formation. Calling different plays is good for different opponents but if its not a scrimmage its not necessary. Scores and outcomes may be frustrating, but don't be discouraged, learning and improving is what makes wins against the greats sweet in the end. Best of Luck!


Not to hook but I think allowing teams to buy into sophomore has a feature that has way outlived its usefulness.

This "feature" actually dates back to season 1 , the Alpha testers started first and were coming with superstars for season 2. Most of the User base from GLB 1 that got invites got them on day 18 season 1 (distrubed I still remember that). So unless you rushed out and created a whole bunch of players your first run was going to be sans superstars.

There was quite a bit of forum well complaining and wanting Bort to credit players created after day 20 with superstar points. -- Instead he created a "buy into sophomore" level option on the team.

New guys take this because they have 4 or 5 players they would like to keep - when they would be much better off "restarting" to rookie and improving to build a rookie team. That isn't really what the buy into sophomore was built for. Starting in sophomore should be eliminated it just adds one more headache for people who don't know the game and it's one they don't see (just don't give them the option):
There guys will start with 50 chem for the new team and get pasted
They are already going uphill against more experienced players
It's also harder to recruit - even if you want to help them - no one can just roll up a quick player and add it to their team. (Heck pretty much anyone who asks agerm gets him to do 2 players).

Originally posted by william78
Not to hook but I think allowing teams to buy into sophomore has a feature that has way outlived its usefulness.

This "feature" actually dates back to season 1 , the Alpha testers started first and were coming with superstars for season 2. Most of the User base from GLB 1 that got invites got them on day 18 season 1 (distrubed I still remember that). So unless you rushed out and created a whole bunch of players your first run was going to be sans superstars.

There was quite a bit of forum well complaining and wanting Bort to credit players created after day 20 with superstar points. -- Instead he created a "buy into sophomore" level option on the team.

New guys take this because they have 4 or 5 players they would like to keep - when they would be much better off "restarting" to rookie and improving to build a rookie team. That isn't really what the buy into sophomore was built for. Starting in sophomore should be eliminated it just adds one more headache for people who don't know the game and it's one they don't see (just don't give them the option):
There guys will start with 50 chem for the new team and get pasted
They are already going uphill against more experienced players
It's also harder to recruit - even if you want to help them - no one can just roll up a quick player and add it to their team. (Heck pretty much anyone who asks agerm gets him to do 2 players).


Yeah I bought the team mid-season. Point of the post was just saying I was beyond unmatched for the greats back then!

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/276080

The learning curve was steep before Myrik helped me along....