Warrior General Games

Just realized I left Ted off the list

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/126657

He was pretty bad too, but then again when I'm your offensive coordinator and I don't have scout you are in for a bad time.

Originally posted by Raid
Hype was a back people planned around,

eh not really.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
False...Xars proved this with his power FB. He has invested 0 SPs in balance and he has a shit ton of broken tackles.

Never said it was the only factor, and what’s the height and weight on Garbage Truck.

And at which point did I mention anything about power rushing. I don’t care for pure power rushing which is why I didn’t mention it. I don’t build pure power backs so I don’t know how much balance should go into them.

And as far as everyone saying combo backs on their team have little balance, it depends on your build. If you want to go higher in the rushing skills then that’s your thing. Personally, I use balance as a secondary factor in breaking tackles. Not only that, but I also use it so my HB can get YAC (HBs are extremely useful in the passing game) so it serves multiple purposes for me.

Originally posted by Sov.
ok so i know alot of you more "sensitive" guys are going to down vote this, but i cant help myself here, lol.

anyone giving all this advice in this thread wanna link one of your HBs averaging over 5-7 YPC? aside from all the people laughing at "balance being the most important stat" advice, GE is the most reputable source in this thread... (meant that as a compliment GE, lol)

all ive seen in these "build" threads is a bunch of personal opinions, ZERO facts verified or confirmed by stats, and yet its all relayed as a matter of fact to these "new players" (who dont exist aside from like 3 people anyway)

the best thing these "new players" that you are attempting to help can do is experiment on their own, learn the game themselves by watching game film and testing different builds, and then ask specific questions on things they need more help understanding. builds mean absolutely zero if you dont understand how the individual stats effect (affect?) the player and their performance. you know, give a guy a fish he eats for a day, etc etc. no shortcuts to learn the game faster and incorrect information hurts that process more than it helps.

I don’t build HBs personally because I think it’s a waste of flex. Too many people in this game want to build a HB so I just create the build plans. This is the link to my last S* HB

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/234532

SO SUCK IT

Jakedood had a backup HB for us to go with this guy and he was pretty dope. Idk how much he was averaging, but we had a sick HB core even though I think we might’ve passed more.

All in all it’s like I said, just depends on what your looking for out of your build.

And why do you always come in guns ablaze Sov

Originally posted by TyDavis315
Never said it was the only factor, and what’s the height and weight on Garbage Truck.

And at which point did I mention anything about power rushing. I don’t care for pure power rushing which is why I didn’t mention it. I don’t build pure power backs so I don’t know how much balance should go into them.

And as far as everyone saying combo backs on their team have little balance, it depends on your build. If you want to go higher in the rushing skills then that’s your thing. Personally, I use balance as a secondary factor in breaking tackles. Not only that, but I also use it so my HB can get YAC (HBs are extremely useful in the passing game) so it serves multiple purposes for me.

you are talking yourself in circles. people are telling you balabce is not factoring in to a higher broken tackle ratio and you are throwing around blind ignorance.

Originally posted by bhall43
you are talking yourself in circles. people are telling you balabce is not factoring in to a higher broken tackle ratio and you are throwing around blind ignorance.

I said it was useful for staying upright and that I personally use it so the HB can stay UPRIGHT when catching the football and stay UPRIGHT when a defender attempts to tackle him. Power rushing is largely bowling over the defenders. I use balance to counter tackles from the side and behind. I never once said it was necessary to fuck over a defense.

If you guys actually spent time reading what someone says instead of coming in ready to talk shit and there’d be less misunderstandings.

Originally posted by TyDavis315
I said it was useful for staying upright and that I personally use it so the HB can stay UPRIGHT when catching the football and stay UPRIGHT when a defender attempts to tackle him. Power rushing is largely bowling over the defenders. I use balance to counter tackles from the side and behind. I never once said it was necessary to fuck over a defense.

If you guys actually spent time reading what someone says instead of coming in ready to talk shit and there’d be less misunderstandings.

staying upright on a tackle attempt is a broken tackle. no worries, i get that you have painted yourself in a corner and cant figure out where to go. just save the time and admit you dont know what your talking about as you said earlier you dont build hbs.

Originally posted by bhall43
eh not really.

You only played against him in season 23, when the team was already falling apart so bad we stopped and I had ruined Hype's build with a respec. You can even see his numbers fall off that season despite some decent blow-out games along the way. It was a bad year for the team with a lot of personnel losses and me at the helm of the offense - no one at the helm on defense... It's the reason we stopped. Up til then though Hype was pretty good - I spent most of that season 23 lamenting in the forums that I'd killed the best combo build that I'd managed to make up til then.

Chicken's problem is the running plays being ran for him, to be honest. He should be far more efficient. A build like that should be running counters and doing more 3WR/4WR runs.

Originally posted by bhall43
staying upright on a tackle attempt is a broken tackle. no worries, i get that you have painted yourself in a corner and cant figure out where to go. just save the time and admit you dont know what your talking about as you said earlier you dont build hbs.

Whatever, explaining it to you is a waste of time. Your clearly trying to misconstrue what I said on purpose

You're both right to some extent. Power rushing seems to gain little to no advantage with balance when it comes to broken tackles, but it does help with the same kind of diving and 'missed' tackles that footwork does so it is mainly helpful on an elusive/combo style back. A powerback can do without it as he's not going to be doing much but lowering the shoulder.

Originally posted by BoDiddley
Chicken's problem is the running plays being ran for him, to be honest. He should be far more efficient. A build like that should be running counters and doing more 3WR/4WR runs.

I'm always jumping on new teams and places that let me build my own style of players and have fun, defoa is still finding his way as an offensive coordinator and that's just fine - he's probably better now than I was ever at the passing side of things anyhow. But yeah, chicken's actually pretty good going off tackle and inside as well which would also suit Tavarius better when he has to come in.

Originally posted by Raid
I'm always jumping on new teams and places that let me build my own style of players and have fun, defoa is still finding his way as an offensive coordinator and that's just fine - he's probably better now than I was ever at the passing side of things anyhow. But yeah, chicken's actually pretty good going off tackle and inside as well which would also suit Tavarius better when he has to come in.

Defoa does a great job to be sure, I just think the rushing scheme hasn't really ever fit Chicken's style. He should be running the kind of plays Dream did with Highlight, or Xars did with Messi. His best assets is blinding speed and open-field elusiveness, so you want him in plays with good spacing. That means counters where he can outrun defenders east to west, and 3WR/4WR sets that force defenders to be spread out. Off-tackle is good here and there, but nowhere as efficient as outside runs.

Originally posted by Raid
You're both right to some extent. Power rushing seems to gain little to no advantage with balance when it comes to broken tackles, but it does help with the same kind of diving and 'missed' tackles that footwork does so it is mainly helpful on an elusive/combo style back. A powerback can do without it as he's not going to be doing much but lowering the shoulder.

if that were true you would see a significant uptick in broken tackles. but its not true.

Originally posted by bhall43
if that were true you would see a significant uptick in broken tackles. but its not true.

Actually missed ankle tackles don't count towards broken tackle totals, neither do just straight up 'missed' tackles. If the HB doesn't budge when the defender dives chances are it doesn't count as a stat, still breaks you free all the same.