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Otega
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Why not just solicit donations? Surely, more than a few people will probably 1 time donate in decent/large sums that will more than make up for your time/effort.

Seems like charging on a schedule along the lines of a GLB season is just creating another $ based barrier for people who want to play and enjoy themselves.
 
Otega
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BTW, just to be clear, I wouldn't have an issue paying a sub, although I would probably do it kicking and screaming all the way up to the paypal click.

I would rather give you $50 and cal it a day, that way I don't have to worry about tracking yet another line item on my personal balance sheet.

edit: Particularly one I will have to explain/find justification for lol
Edited by Otega on Oct 21, 2014 11:45:53
 
Stobie
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Originally posted by Otega
BTW, just to be clear, I wouldn't have an issue paying a sub, although I would probably do it kicking and screaming all the way up to the paypal click.

I would rather give you $50 and cal it a day, that way I don't have to worry about tracking yet another line item on my personal balance sheet.

edit: Particularly one I will have to explain/find justification for lol


Well sounds like another payment like many business models is that you can pay a one time fee and never have to worry about monthly payments. Many things to think about as I want to be fair to all parties interested.
 
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Originally posted by Stobie
I fully would expect that, but I will say the owners/co-ordinators that I know that are uber competitive would want this tool as another edge because, yes they will spend the time watching replays, but what some might have missed with this tool is that I target the replays you might want to watch. This will allow them to do what they do today but at a fraction of the time they spent before and in a much more target manner.

For instance, you want to see all the 1st down plays with more than 2 min remaining to help eliminate blowouts and altered gameplans, so you get your play list doing that. Then based on that you can click the replays link and it will populate all the replays that fit this criteria as well for that specific play so you can watch them directly rather than scouring a game to find the plays your looking for.

Not only that, there are other features/products that will be added to the membership of the program. I don't plan on stopping here, I only plan on future enhancements and features to be added.


I feel you and i do appreciate your effort im not so bias to say i wont support it but just feel that it does make it easy. What other products or features will you bring to the table.

I used scouting before and i resorted that into being able to scout by watching games when i knew what to look for. I acknowledge that it may help but Im just wondering what effects it will have on the success of teams who use /dont use.

And whoever down-liked my post is lame.
 
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yea just make it affordable for even the young guys so no one could feel like they have a gold ticket to winning.

if everybody uses it then i feel better because there is no edge...but tht wont happen...creativity will be a challenge
 
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I may be interested at a one time charge but definitely wouldn't be interested in a subscription personally. It makes more business sense to do a one time payment as well IMO. New team owners would be much more inclined to lay down cash once as well as coordinators. Seems to me that a sub would only be carried by a hand full of those extremely competitive people where the tool would be much more widely utilized if it was a single payment that was not outrageous.
 
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Originally posted by jhiggseiu14
I feel you and i do appreciate your effort im not so bias to say i wont support it but just feel that it does make it easy. What other products or features will you bring to the table.

I used scouting before and i resorted that into being able to scout by watching games when i knew what to look for. I acknowledge that it may help but Im just wondering what effects it will have on the success of teams who use /dont use.

And whoever down-liked my post is lame.


So some that have come to mind were and are not limited to nor are sold ideas:

Virtual Player Builder : Essentially what GLB has today with the inspect element hack, but allows you to do superstars without having a superstar available and upon completion an auto save option so you can store them and recall them at a later time.

Play Book Import/Export : Allowing coaching staffs to import/export playbooks from other coaches and be able to see them at a high level outside of GLB so you are not blindly importing/exporting.

Team Activity Gauge : This tool will allow users when scouting a team get a general sense of how often they change their playbooks and assign a rating of activity.

Open Build Checker : This tool will allow users to scan a team and evaluate if any open builds and flag those players if need be to be viewed.

Play Comparison Overlay : This will allow coaching staff's to pick an offensive play and a defensive play and within play art create an overlay to see visually how the match up and the attributes of each.

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Obviously if any one has any other ideas I am open ears as the idea for me is to expand the GLB experience.
 
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Awesome

Nice work
 
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Originally posted by Stobie
So some that have come to mind were and are not limited to nor are sold ideas:

Virtual Player Builder : Essentially what GLB has today with the inspect element hack, but allows you to do superstars without having a superstar available and upon completion an auto save option so you can store them and recall them at a later time.

Play Book Import/Export : Allowing coaching staffs to import/export playbooks from other coaches and be able to see them at a high level outside of GLB so you are not blindly importing/exporting.

Team Activity Gauge : This tool will allow users when scouting a team get a general sense of how often they change their playbooks and assign a rating of activity.

Open Build Checker : This tool will allow users to scan a team and evaluate if any open builds and flag those players if need be to be viewed.

Play Comparison Overlay : This will allow coaching staff's to pick an offensive play and a defensive play and within play art create an overlay to see visually how the match up and the attributes of each.

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Obviously if any one has any other ideas I am open ears as the idea for me is to expand the GLB experience.


Well that clears up alot.

If I were you I would make it a one time payment.
If not, make the subcription very cheap and on a yearly rounding.

This would be a great product but please don't be APPLE and over charge it because you have to think about the power this has and will kill chances of seeing different owners having suceesss....You don't wannt to see the SEC every year in the big game right? lol but seriuosly great product with those features but it has too much power for it to be too expensive where only one target marktet can get it off od demand power. Think of the young guys who still gets money from mom away at school (college)....this was me a year ago lol
 
InRomoWeTrust
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Make it really expensive and a subscription.

HOARD IT
 
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Make it really expensive and a subscription.

HOARD IT


smh...thats whats wrong with lemons....too much juice and never gets tired of the squeezing
 
TxSteve
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Just wanted to add for the "makes the game too easy" crowd. I don't know how long Stobie has had access to this program or when he started working on it. Remembering back to my GLB1 days it seems like he was programming scripts then..

but Ministry of Dotball:
0-2 this season
10 losses last season
14 losses the season before
Zero championships


(sorry Stobie)

So it would seem to me that this tool can genuinely be looked at as a time saver - and an aid...not a guaranteed winning formula.
 
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i see the eye of that
 
Otega
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Originally posted by Stobie
Well sounds like another payment like many business models is that you can pay a one time fee and never have to worry about monthly payments. Many things to think about as I want to be fair to all parties interested.


Ya, certainly plenty of things to consider.

The questions that come along with this are 1) how much is your time worth for the initial development and what is it worth in terms of maintenance (i would assume those are two very different $ costs), 2) what are people willing to pay for something that "isn't needed, but helps," 3)how much is too much IE creates that monetary barrier for, what I would assume, is a good portion of GLB's userbase (IE college kids)and 4) will GLB itself want some type of pymt considering it's their game to begin with (you're essentially trading on their name) 5) is there any legal/monetary ramifications to 4 IE is anything in their terms of use written to dissuade this entire endeavour.

I think the safest bet is to do a one time fee. If you set up some type of reoccurring sub, there are probably alot more things you would have to consider (depending on where you live, you might actually have to have a business license of some sort to do so, which brings a whole new host of problems/concerns/costs/etc.) At least with one time fees, it can be done via secured paypal, can be tracked easily on your part and pymt wise can be labeled so as to skirt some of the business issues. However, you will need to do some research on that on paypal's site, as I could be way off base there as well (not familiar with their TOS and what they define as "business income/pymts" vs. other pymt types).

Regardless, you probably have quite a bit of research to do before anything happens. Make sure you cover all your bases.
 
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Originally posted by TxSteve
Just wanted to add for the "makes the game too easy" crowd. I don't know how long Stobie has had access to this program or when he started working on it. Remembering back to my GLB1 days it seems like he was programming scripts then..

but Ministry of Dotball:
0-2 this season
10 losses last season
14 losses the season before
Zero championships


(sorry Stobie)

So it would seem to me that this tool can genuinely be looked at as a time saver - and an aid...not a guaranteed winning formula.


Truth is truth, though I haven't had any chance to scout any teams this season with what I am trying to finish. But to your point and a post made earlier, scouting is only a small piece of the three headed monster. It allows me to get in and get out quickly.
 
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