Forum > Goal Line Blitz 2 > Sophomore Day 3 Journal Entry # IcanStopYourQbRollOut
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Originally posted by TxSteve
Lies can all be found here : http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5177001?page=16
Ok...now you are starting to annoy as well
Lies can all be found here : http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5177001?page=16
Ok...now you are starting to annoy as well
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Originally posted by TxSteve
Lies can all be found here : http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5177001?page=16
Right. So you don't actually have any evidence of this anymore than you have evidence that QB Rollout is OP.
Got it.
Lies can all be found here : http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5177001?page=16
Right. So you don't actually have any evidence of this anymore than you have evidence that QB Rollout is OP.
Got it.
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Originally posted by Xavori
I just made a QB Rollout-free offense for giggles and am running it against Denver and Lincoln City 20-30 minutes or so.
Should be fun except the pass first offense since my defense kinda sucks against that at the moment...
well we will see how it goes lol pass defense isnt in a good place right now lol
I just made a QB Rollout-free offense for giggles and am running it against Denver and Lincoln City 20-30 minutes or so.
Should be fun except the pass first offense since my defense kinda sucks against that at the moment...
well we will see how it goes lol pass defense isnt in a good place right now lol
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Originally posted by vipermaw82
well we will see how it goes lol pass defense isnt in a good place right now lol
No kidding. I'm having the exact same problems on every single team I DC, and the fix is build related so it's slow going.
well we will see how it goes lol pass defense isnt in a good place right now lol
No kidding. I'm having the exact same problems on every single team I DC, and the fix is build related so it's slow going.
mutleyddmc DTD
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Originally posted by Xavori
I just made a QB Rollout-free offense for giggles and am running it against Denver and Lincoln City 20-30 minutes or so.
Should be fun except the pass first offense since my defense kinda sucks against that at the moment...
Oh bugger I wanted the QB roll out.
I just made a QB Rollout-free offense for giggles and am running it against Denver and Lincoln City 20-30 minutes or so.
Should be fun except the pass first offense since my defense kinda sucks against that at the moment...
Oh bugger I wanted the QB roll out.
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We'll find out how overpowered it is soon enough. Adderfist gets Yorick and D'haran back-2-back. HayRow likes to point out that Adderfist shut it down last season once, but fails to mention that he figured out the right way to mix it into the offense after that game and scored 40+ points the second time around in the league championship.
The play is dirty in that even the correct defense with builds suited to stop it can still fail to a single broken tackle or pancake, all of which gets more likely considering blockers will only get nastier. It's doubly nasty in that the best plays against it are super-vulnerable to other stuff, particularly inside rushing. But you can't try to defend against the other stuff without absolutely conceding homeruns to the rollout. In that way, it's far worse than the SB spread stuff from season 1 and 2.
The play is dirty in that even the correct defense with builds suited to stop it can still fail to a single broken tackle or pancake, all of which gets more likely considering blockers will only get nastier. It's doubly nasty in that the best plays against it are super-vulnerable to other stuff, particularly inside rushing. But you can't try to defend against the other stuff without absolutely conceding homeruns to the rollout. In that way, it's far worse than the SB spread stuff from season 1 and 2.
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Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
Oh bugger I wanted the QB roll out.
Sorry. Wanted to see how close I am on the changes I'm making on offense to simply being unstoppable across the board so that Tx can start whining to have my entire team nerfed rather than just one play.
Originally posted by Galithor
We'll find out how overpowered it is soon enough. Adderfist gets Yorick and D'haran back-2-back. HayRow likes to point out that Adderfist shut it down last season once, but fails to mention that he figured out the right way to mix it into the offense after that game and scored 40+ points the second time around in the league championship.
The play is dirty in that even the correct defense with builds suited to stop it can still fail to a single broken tackle or pancake, all of which gets more likely considering blockers will only get nastier. It's doubly nasty in that the best plays against it are super-vulnerable to other stuff, particularly inside rushing. But you can't try to defend against the other stuff without absolutely conceding homeruns to the rollout. In that way, it's far worse than the SB spread stuff from season 1 and 2.
I have so many more toys now tho. And I'm fully on board with that last point you made since I have inside and outside running plays that are specifically chosen to be needful of the opposite calls on defense which greatly increases my odds of finding something that works.
This of course is much tricksier to put together than just getting fast WR's who put up over 500 yards against my poor LL defense last season
Oh bugger I wanted the QB roll out.
Sorry. Wanted to see how close I am on the changes I'm making on offense to simply being unstoppable across the board so that Tx can start whining to have my entire team nerfed rather than just one play.
Originally posted by Galithor
We'll find out how overpowered it is soon enough. Adderfist gets Yorick and D'haran back-2-back. HayRow likes to point out that Adderfist shut it down last season once, but fails to mention that he figured out the right way to mix it into the offense after that game and scored 40+ points the second time around in the league championship.
The play is dirty in that even the correct defense with builds suited to stop it can still fail to a single broken tackle or pancake, all of which gets more likely considering blockers will only get nastier. It's doubly nasty in that the best plays against it are super-vulnerable to other stuff, particularly inside rushing. But you can't try to defend against the other stuff without absolutely conceding homeruns to the rollout. In that way, it's far worse than the SB spread stuff from season 1 and 2.
I have so many more toys now tho. And I'm fully on board with that last point you made since I have inside and outside running plays that are specifically chosen to be needful of the opposite calls on defense which greatly increases my odds of finding something that works.
This of course is much tricksier to put together than just getting fast WR's who put up over 500 yards against my poor LL defense last season
mutleyddmc DTD
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Originally posted by Xavori
I have so many more toys now tho. And I'm fully on board with that last point you made since I have inside and outside running plays that are specifically chosen to be needful of the opposite calls on defense which greatly increases my odds of finding something that works.
This of course is much tricksier to put together than just getting fast WR's who put up over 500 yards against my poor LL defense last season
It's ok that was a fun game lol
I have so many more toys now tho. And I'm fully on board with that last point you made since I have inside and outside running plays that are specifically chosen to be needful of the opposite calls on defense which greatly increases my odds of finding something that works.
This of course is much tricksier to put together than just getting fast WR's who put up over 500 yards against my poor LL defense last season
It's ok that was a fun game lol
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Originally posted by Xavori
I have so many more toys now tho. And I'm fully on board with that last point you made since I have inside and outside running plays that are specifically chosen to be needful of the opposite calls on defense which greatly increases my odds of finding something that works.
This of course is much tricksier to put together than just getting fast WR's who put up over 500 yards against my poor LL defense last season
It's not that hard. You only need an Outside Run playbook that contains these 5 plays: Goalline HB Sting, HB Blast, QB Rollout Strong, then you add the Big I plays QB Rollout Left and Right, using a TE/FB at WR1.
Run that offense 100% of the time. Maybe shake up the playcalling priorities from time to time. Blast, and Sting murder the 3-2-6. If the opposing team elects to not run the 3-2-6, they just get blitzed by the rollouts.
That you have more toys now is precisely the problem with the QB rollout play. You can run other stuff, but the defense is forced to sellout to stop the QB rollout simply because it exists.
I have so many more toys now tho. And I'm fully on board with that last point you made since I have inside and outside running plays that are specifically chosen to be needful of the opposite calls on defense which greatly increases my odds of finding something that works.
This of course is much tricksier to put together than just getting fast WR's who put up over 500 yards against my poor LL defense last season
It's not that hard. You only need an Outside Run playbook that contains these 5 plays: Goalline HB Sting, HB Blast, QB Rollout Strong, then you add the Big I plays QB Rollout Left and Right, using a TE/FB at WR1.
Run that offense 100% of the time. Maybe shake up the playcalling priorities from time to time. Blast, and Sting murder the 3-2-6. If the opposing team elects to not run the 3-2-6, they just get blitzed by the rollouts.
That you have more toys now is precisely the problem with the QB rollout play. You can run other stuff, but the defense is forced to sellout to stop the QB rollout simply because it exists.
Edited by Galithor on May 19, 2014 10:27:15
Edited by Galithor on May 19, 2014 10:26:38
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Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
It's ok that was a fun game lol
It was definitely a case study in why Yorick needs to keep the inside run game to set up the outside runs
It's ok that was a fun game lol
It was definitely a case study in why Yorick needs to keep the inside run game to set up the outside runs
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Originally posted by Kayoh
first ladder game: lost to exploity outside running team
second ladder game: set to face exploity outside running team
fml
Kayoh you are such a whiny sissy just like GLB1...D'Hara ran the HB 62 times, and the QB 11, not even all the QB runs were QB rollout
first ladder game: lost to exploity outside running team
second ladder game: set to face exploity outside running team
fml
Kayoh you are such a whiny sissy just like GLB1...D'Hara ran the HB 62 times, and the QB 11, not even all the QB runs were QB rollout
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Originally posted by bhall43
Your evidence was holding a play to 17 ypc. Not once did you even hold it under 10 yards. You are embarrassing yourself really.
I showed proof
Your evidence was holding a play to 17 ypc. Not once did you even hold it under 10 yards. You are embarrassing yourself really.
I showed proof
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Originally posted by HayRow
Kayoh you are such a whiny sissy just like GLB1...D'Hara ran the HB 62 times, and the QB 11, not even all the QB runs were QB rollout
you're highlighting the issue. It's impossible to stop the QB rollout AND inside runs at the same time. You've got to sellout to stop the QB rollout, at which point you get burned by inside RB runs. We sold out to stop the QB rollout (and succeeded) but we still got burned by the inside RB running game.
Kayoh you are such a whiny sissy just like GLB1...D'Hara ran the HB 62 times, and the QB 11, not even all the QB runs were QB rollout
you're highlighting the issue. It's impossible to stop the QB rollout AND inside runs at the same time. You've got to sellout to stop the QB rollout, at which point you get burned by inside RB runs. We sold out to stop the QB rollout (and succeeded) but we still got burned by the inside RB running game.
Edited by Kayoh on May 19, 2014 14:08:01
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Originally posted by Kayoh
you're highlighting the issue. It's impossible to stop the QB rollout AND inside runs at the same time. You've got to sellout to stop the QB rollout, at which point you get burned by inside RB runs. We sold out to stop the QB rollout and still got burned by it because our defensive bots aren't rocking 50 sprinting and quickness this early on.
Except it's totally different pages in the defense playbook, and they both are tied to run stopping skills in your builds.
So ya, except for everything, you're point is spot on...
you're highlighting the issue. It's impossible to stop the QB rollout AND inside runs at the same time. You've got to sellout to stop the QB rollout, at which point you get burned by inside RB runs. We sold out to stop the QB rollout and still got burned by it because our defensive bots aren't rocking 50 sprinting and quickness this early on.
Except it's totally different pages in the defense playbook, and they both are tied to run stopping skills in your builds.
So ya, except for everything, you're point is spot on...
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