Originally posted by NiborRis Except Ball isn't on the same level as the other 4 teams so bruins coast, prov coasts, og and jebs coast into division winner/wild card I mean be honest, your league could be stacks with the top teams in the game and you'd still coast, you'd just lose more games
Meh
It is what it is. Just looking for smarter people than me to come up with something better. If it exists
So a top 15 team won't make the playoffs. They'd be a top 4 team in the league. Have a top 4 chance at winning the championship. But a weaker team with less of a shot at winning the trophy will make it instead. So this makes it more competitive? This makes it more even and fair? It's obvious, people are just being blind to the fact of the flaws of the division system coupled with how playoff spots are decided in the small leagues. It's fixable without taking anything away, but again, people just want it how it is even if the change is better :/
Originally posted by -Phaytle- So a top 15 team won't make the playoffs. They'd be a top 4 team in the league. Have a top 4 chance at winning the championship. But a weaker team with less of a shot at winning the trophy will make it instead. So this makes it more competitive? This makes it more even and fair? It's obvious, people are just being blind to the fact of the flaws of the division system coupled with how playoff spots are decided in the small leagues. It's fixable without taking anything away, but again, people just want it how it is even if the change is better :/
Does it matter? If you don't win the division and you don't win the wild card, what makes you think you should be in the playoffs for a chance at the trophy? It isn't like they didn't have a chance, now it means that instead of a bye into the playoffs they now have regular season games that matter beyond simply seeding in the playoffs.
Last two seasons, there wasn't much chance of not making playoffs, so the whole regular season was lol. The only thing interesting was the two games a season you played the other top teams and the ladder.
Two divisions, two wild cards might make it better (because the wildcards might both come from the stronger div), but at least when you have three tough teams in your div, it means cares.
Originally posted by -Phaytle- I cam up with a fix to make many things better without losing anything. People didn't like change and were blind to the benefits.
So much better that it got voted into a locked thread.
Originally posted by Time Trial Does it matter? If you don't win the division and you don't win the wild card, what makes you think you should be in the playoffs for a chance at the trophy? It isn't like they didn't have a chance, now it means that instead of a bye into the playoffs they now have regular season games that matter beyond simply seeding in the playoffs.
Last two seasons, there wasn't much chance of not making playoffs, so the whole regular season was lol. The only thing interesting was the two games a season you played the other top teams and the ladder.
Two divisions, two wild cards might make it better (because the wildcards might both come from the stronger div), but at least when you have three tough teams in your div, it means cares.
So instead of having a bye into the playoffs, one team has a bye for their first playoff games. How does it make sense to anyone that a team with a worse record and lower ladder ranking is a better fit for a playoff over a team with a higher record and ladder ranking?
How do you guys not understand this? It's simple and obvious.
So what they didn't win the division, they are still more of a challenge than someone winning an easy division. You seriously think a rank 50 team is going to have a higher change and be more competition to the other 3 playoff teams than a ranked 10 team?
The road to the championship should be the hardest, comprised of the best teams. That is compromised with the way divisions hand out playoff spots.
It got voted into being blocked because people don't like change and for some reason they decided not to see the benefits and problems it solved. Some people don't like change.
Originally posted by -Phaytle- So instead of having a bye into the playoffs, one team has a bye for their first playoff games. How does it make sense to anyone that a team with a worse record and lower ladder ranking is a better fit for a playoff over a team with a higher record and ladder ranking?
How do you guys not understand this? It's simple and obvious.
So what they didn't win the division, they are still more of a challenge than someone winning an easy division. You seriously think a rank 50 team is going to have a higher change and be more competition to the other 3 playoff teams than a ranked 10 team?
The road to the championship should be the hardest, comprised of the best teams. That is compromised with the way divisions hand out playoff spots.
It got voted into being blocked because people don't like change and for some reason they decided not to see the benefits and problems it solved. Some people don't like change.
Because one throw away game is better than a season of throw away games to get to play one or two meaningful games.
Sometimes a division will be watered down, sometimes a league will be watered down. In the end, the team that wins the league is all that matters. That's why there is no participant ribbon.
Right, giving that team that wins the league the hardest road, like the #4 or even #3 team getting a playoff spot over #5 is better. The better team has a higher chance of beating the other team. What if the that team that didn't make the playoffs because he was 3rd in a division would have beat the team that won the championship? What the team that won the championship only got they played a weaker team?
Would the team that won the league really have won if they played the stronger team that never made the playoffs?
Why are the playoff teams the playoff teams in the first place? You determine that better record means stronger team right? Stronger team = higher chance to win the championship right? Yet a weaker team makes it over a stronger team when that can easily be fixed!
Originally posted by Time Trial Because one throw away game is better than a season of throw away games to get to play one or two meaningful games.
Sometimes a division will be watered down, sometimes a league will be watered down. In the end, the team that wins the league is all that matters. That's why there is no participant ribbon.
You can fix watered down and overly strong leagues with the suggestion I posted. People want it to be competitive and fair and then a proposition comes up that makes it so and everyone shits on it before even understanding it. If they understood it they wouldn't be against it because it addresses and fixes everything people complain about in the forums regarding the situation.
Shit, you could even still keep divisions if you wanted. They'd be reorganized each year with the 3 teams you'd play twice based on whichever three had the closest record last season. Playoffs would still be decided by top 4 overall, but then you could keep the divisions that way and you'd have a visual of the three team you're playing twice.
Originally posted by -Phaytle- Right, giving that team that wins the league the hardest road, like the #4 or even #3 team getting a playoff spot over #5 is better. The better team has a higher chance of beating the other team. What if the that team that didn't make the playoffs because he was 3rd in a division would have beat the team that won the championship? What the team that won the championship only got they played a weaker team?
Would the team that won the league really have won if they played the stronger team that never made the playoffs?
Why are the playoff teams the playoff teams in the first place? You determine that better record means stronger team right? Stronger team = higher chance to win the championship right? Yet a weaker team makes it over a stronger team when that can easily be fixed!
If they were in the same division then they had two chances to beat them in the regular season already, and they had the chance to make the wild card. You would give them an automatic bye into the playoffs, thus negating a meaningful regular season, on the off chance that they might have been able to beat the championship team?
Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes Turn and face the strange Ch-ch-changes Don't want to be in a different division man Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes Turn and face the strange Ch-ch-changes Just gonna have to beat different teams man Time may change me But I can't trace time Mmm, yeah