Warrior General Games

Originally posted by -Phaytle-
No we're not. But now I am saying you can't comprehend English and pointing to your last couple posts. Coverage is shitty, not because of any skills. And the only thing the defenders can do right now to try to improve it at all is dump all their points into getting closer to the receiver or the ball. Reread the last couple pages.

lol, you're bitching about something that happens few and far between... sure it's frustrating.

But if it weren't happening... we'd be bitching about no scoring. We still have super low scoring games right now.

Again, I think if you take a step back and look at it as an overall product... you'd realize things like this need to be left alone until further notice.

Originally posted by bhall43
Oh lets Buff catching at lower levels. Ok now guys are catching shit in coverage regardless of the coverage. Sweet.

I'm confused... Why did you give a short account of the current state of GLB.
I also chuckled when you said regardless of coverage, cuz there is no coverage.

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Notice all, I am not saying we need a buff ASAP anymore... Because at this point it doesn't matter, i am just going to have my team owner retire all his CBs and we will bring in new ones from outside. Not wasting seasons of flex on what is trending to be a broken position.

It is strange you all keep saying wait until veteran.. But OP is not made for veteran, OP is made to address a first season problem, maybe 2nd season, WHO KNOWS...

Thing is like I said in my other post, you can wait until after S1 dots hit plateau, or you can buff pass defense tomorrow. The problem will be solved one way or another, no way burt and co. will let broken game stay broken.

I am not saying wait till veteran because I know exactly what that looks like. But I personally feel it is more a play issue with some coverage issues mixed in. But you won't be able to fully evaluate the coverage issues unless the plays surrounding them are meh. At least imo. And that goes for all levels.

i asked corndog when we are getting better plays and he played dumb,

so its gonna be a buff.

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
i asked corndog when we are getting better plays and he played dumb,

so its gonna be a buff.

Except you didn't.

You asked when we are going to have zone underneath with man over the top support which doesn't even make sense.

I asked you how the hell we are supposed to use eyes on the prize if the only underneath zone is in full zone coverage...

So yeah....

Now ppl are raging in TT thread

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
^Long story short is atm CBs have to do WAY more to just keep up with the WR than WRs have to do to just run their route and catch the ball.

It's unequal, and will only get worse...

I certainly recall Bort saying in GLB1 that he intended for it to be more of an offensive game.... likely the same is true here.
I am probably in the minority here, but I actually like games that turn out 7-3 or 3-0 (especially IRL) as I am more of a defensive minded guy.
That said, sometimes a shootout is entertaining as well, but I prefer more defensive games like the NFC championship earlier this evening. Both rushing games (outside of Kapernick) were pretty much stuffed most of the night, and that with 2 of the best HBs in the league this season.

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
no way burt and co. will let broken game stay broken.

Now that's a bit of a stretch, if handled anything like GLB1 was/is with the band-aid system of bug fixes.

If they implement a fix on CB's losing deep coverage, they also need to implement a fix on low completion rates for short routes. Because if you simply fix the deep route coverage, QB's will now be completing 40% of passes instead of the current 50% and forum rage will swing the other direction.

I don't think fixing coverage on underthrows on long passes to fly routes (and to some extent out routes) is going to change overall completion rates that much, unless a team was intentionally putting out a noodlearm QB and trying to abuse that interaction as much as possible. Just because the DB is going to actually turn around doesn't mean he's automatically stopping the pass, either - he still might not notice in time, or the pass might be caught anyways, whatever. And it's just not that big a portion of most team's offenses.

Originally posted by McGruffHawk
If they implement a fix on CB's losing deep coverage, they also need to implement a fix on low completion rates for short routes. Because if you simply fix the deep route coverage, QB's will now be completing 40% of passes instead of the current 50% and forum rage will swing the other direction.

Short routes will get easier when speedster bots get good sprinting, quickness, footwork, route tech, and route evasive (to get open) or when possession bots get good vertical, balance, receiving hands, grip, consistency, and catch in traffic.

The problem is, the QBs are getting better at throwing and the WRs are getting better at cutting or catching. This means that the CBs need to be able to keep up with this double growth without giving up on the other side of the ball (HBs are getting stronger and faster).

Originally posted by McGruffHawk
If they implement a fix on CB's losing deep coverage, they also need to implement a fix on low completion rates for short routes. Because if you simply fix the deep route coverage, QB's will now be completing 40% of passes instead of the current 50% and forum rage will swing the other direction.

But at least you can point to a receiver's catching skills in the 30s and 40s. CBs have cov tech and man awareness in the 50s and 60s and they are losing track of their man and the ball when a receiver has a catch awareness of 30 and adjusts perfectly. The catch completion rate is low right now because the catch rate is low. Add those "unable to secure the ball due to nearby defense" outcomes to drops and you'll see where the problem is.

We threw for nearly 60% today in our playoff game against Alpine. I would say it is still the same.

Originally posted by -Phaytle-
But at least you can point to a receiver's catching skills in the 30s and 40s. CBs have cov tech and man awareness in the 50s and 60s and they are losing track of their man and the ball when a receiver has a catch awareness of 30 and adjusts perfectly. The catch completion rate is low right now because the catch rate is low. Add those "unable to secure the ball due to nearby defense" outcomes to drops and you'll see where the problem is.

I would imagine that if cover tech and man awareness are in the 50s and 50s then quickness and footwork are in the 20s and 30s.

Originally posted by MC_Hammer
I certainly recall Bort saying in GLB1 that he intended for it to be more of an offensive game.... likely the same is true here.
I am probably in the minority here, but I actually like games that turn out 7-3 or 3-0 (especially IRL) as I am more of a defensive minded guy.

your not alone.....i was tired of 255-0 and unrealistic stats. The more realistic scoring is what got me and my circle of friends excited.