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Originally posted by XxXMufasaXxX
So you would risk giving up 10 possible points when your up by 9? No.

I didn't think up that strategy, Bill Belichek did.

At his point I don't see any field goal attempt as a "sure thing".
The % completion is not good on any of the kickers I have seen.

Originally posted by XxXMufasaXxX
This isn't GLB1. It's a completely different beast. Made for players, not coordinators.

I don't understand the logic. You build an updated sim engine and all this stuff but decide to take away the most popular aspect of GLB1.. Is it really that difficult to create a casual and normal set of leagues? oh well

Originally posted by snakes22
I don't understand the logic. You build an updated sim engine and all this stuff but decide to take away the most popular aspect of GLB1.. Is it really that difficult to create a casual and normal set of leagues? oh well

GLB classic and GLB2 fulfill the catering to both those audiences.

Originally posted by snakes22
I don't understand the logic. You build an updated sim engine and all this stuff but decide to take away the most popular aspect of GLB1.. Is it really that difficult to create a casual and normal set of leagues? oh well

The "most popular" part of GLB1 is also was drove people to burn out. In GLB2 pretty much anyone can be a decent coordinator without significant time invested. That makes the entry barrier buck lower.

Originally posted by snakes22
I don't understand the logic. You build an updated sim engine and all this stuff but decide to take away the most popular aspect of GLB1.. Is it really that difficult to create a casual and normal set of leagues? oh well

So popular that only a handful of people actually do it!

Originally posted by Corndog
Is it a common sense thing?

Do normal teams line up for a FG in sudden death over time with plenty of time on the clock on first down? It seems more logical to try for it multiple times before kicking a FG. Especially with "low level" kickers that are pretty inconsistent.

Do you watch football? Yes, every team would do this. Sometimes, you might see them run 1 more play to put the ball on side of the field the the kicker prefers to kick from. But yes, bad coding to not do this in OT.

I know the NFL has new OT rules, but those do not apply in GLB so no point even discussing that.

Originally posted by Corndog
But you can try for a touchdown three times and THEN kick a field goal. It's even more logical when you take into account crappy kickers.

:/

Really? In OT? You don't need the TD to win so why chance a turnover? This is a scary conversation coming from GLB as this is basic coaching that you see in college and the NFL.

Originally posted by snakes22
GLB1 I kick a Field goal in OT once we get inside the 30. Any down

Me too!

Originally posted by DiMo28
Really? In OT? You don't need the TD to win so why chance a turnover? This is a scary conversation coming from GLB as this is basic coaching that you see in college and the NFL.

Why chance missing a FG?

Originally posted by bhall43
Why chance missing a FG?

That's less likely than hoping for a TD, and risking a turnover on every play.
I don't see why there can't be a little option for OT where the OC chooses a safe FG range and inside that range the offense will automatically kick a FG on any down.
It's one choice, let the OC make it, its a really quick decision and won't be turning this game away from the casual-fest it is now.

Ultimately this is an argument over preference and so long as GLB makes the choice, GLB will be blamed when the choice doesn't match the Coordinators preference. We're not asking for anything weird. During the broncos/patriots game in overtime when the broncos got the ball off the fumble, they ran one play. And it was only to get the ball on the left hash, so clearly there's precedence for kicking a FG on first down as which hash make the ball on doesn't affect Kickers in GLB like it does in real life. And during sudden death like GLB's overtime is there's even more reason to kick the ball if you think it's safe.

What we're ultimately asking for isn't weird at all and is standard tactics in a sudden death overtime game. Either you guys need to implement it, or we need to have the option as coordinators to do so. (lol I say we, but I'm not a glb2 coordinator and never will be)

Originally posted by bhall43
So popular that only a handful of people actually do it!

Case in point...
Originally posted by Titans vs Cardinals Play-By-Play
Overtime

Tennessee Titans at 15:00
4-J.Feely kicks 65 yards from ARI 35 to TEN 0. 26-L.Washington to TEN 24 for 24 yards (22-T.Jefferson; 59-M.Benard).
1-10-TEN 24 (14:52) (Shotgun) 4-R.Fitzpatrick pass incomplete short left to 13-K.Wright.
2-10-TEN 24 (14:44) (Shotgun) 4-R.Fitzpatrick pass deep middle to 85-N.Washington to ARI 43 for 33 yards (21-P.Peterson).
1-10-ARI 43 (14:05) (Shotgun) 4-R.Fitzpatrick pass short right intended for 14-M.Preston INTERCEPTED by 20-A.Cason [22-T.Jefferson] at ARI 30. 20-A.Cason to ARI 46 for 16 yards (82-D.Walker).
Arizona Cardinals at 13:55
1-10-ARI 46 (13:55) 28-R.Mendenhall right tackle to TEN 49 for 5 yards (30-J.McCourty).
2-5-TEN 49 (13:20) 3-C.Palmer pass short middle to 81-J.Dray to TEN 40 for 9 yards (50-Z.Gooden).
1-10-TEN 40 (12:45) 28-R.Mendenhall up the middle to TEN 36 for 4 yards (33-M.Griffin).
2-6-TEN 36 (12:11) 28-R.Mendenhall left guard to TEN 21 for 15 yards (33-M.Griffin).
1-10-TEN 21 (11:37) 28-R.Mendenhall right guard to TEN 23 for -2 yards (99-J.Casey).
2-12-TEN 23 (10:59) 28-R.Mendenhall right guard to TEN 23 for no gain (91-D.Morgan).
Timeout #1 by TEN at 10:23.
3-12-TEN 23 (10:22) (Field Goal formation) 4-J.Feely 41 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-82-M.Leach, Holder-9-D.Zastudil.

Also to point out that people generally kick on 3rd down in case of a bobbled snap. Which doesn't happen in GLB on kicks. So the extra down is useful for a play.

Setting aside the current state of low-chem rookie Kickers not being able to kick worth a shit. A mature kicker is probably less likely to miss inside of 35 than a HB is to fumble.

Originally posted by ACES
No I would say if I'm saying anything at all is, in the current sim it doesn't matter if you are up by 3 or down by 3 with time running out in the 4th inside the opponents 20 you will punt on 4th down. That's just the way it is regardless of liking it or not it's the reality. I do enjoy this version of GLB though, setting up O and D and putting people on the DC piece of cake, building I'm not sure on yet because I suck at building, funny though I thought this version might help remedy that

Up by 21 you go for it, though. (Okay, it was the 26 yard line)
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/3858/418951