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Originally posted by Mat McBriar
Except us old farts are 100x more reliable to be a WL contender each season. Lincoln at 0 cares still leaves us as a top 5 team in GLB each season.


looks like just outside the top 16
 
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ITT: Guys who were mad when Hali claimed 0 cares, claiming 0 cares.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Its definitely both. When alloy opened his builds a lot of the newbs that were still not getting it finally got it. All those people started new players with a better mindset. Not to mention there has been much more communication from all the vets to the newbs whereas it used to be a private forum of just a couple guys keeping info close so nobody else knew. Everything is pretty much public knowledge now. Even if there happens to be a season where someone learns a new trick, it is leaked relatively quickly.


I agree that builds have come a long way, and there's a lot more builds that are right up there near the top. I think OC/DC knowledge has also spread better, much like build knowledge. I don't know enough about coordinating to say how the gap has changed there for sure, though.
 
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Originally posted by Mat McBriar
Yeah, care levels from the old dogs are at all-time lows. When you first hit WL, there's definitely some excitement that keeps you motivating when it comes to actively coordinating. After you've been around the block, you tend to be ok with just let that auto-adjusting AI do it's thang for the most part. I can tell you that Lincoln's builds were far better than most WL teams, but with cares and time commitments absent we definitely underperformed.

Effort was definitely a problem for Providence. Pariah forgot to set season promos, then when I worked on the AI it was because I felt an obligation to the people who signed with us and not because I wanted to do so. When that happens, you should demote.


Originally posted by bhall43
Its definitely both. When alloy opened his builds a lot of the newbs that were still not getting it finally got it. All those people started new players with a better mindset. Not to mention there has been much more communication from all the vets to the newbs whereas it used to be a private forum of just a couple guys keeping info close so nobody else knew. Everything is pretty much public knowledge now. Even if there happens to be a season where someone learns a new trick, it is leaked relatively quickly.

Yeah, it depends on what people mean by "builds." I don't know that the attributes have gotten so much better since the "elite" builders still seem to maintain that advantage, but a lot more folks learned what AEQ, VAs, and SAs to use (along with which not to use).
 
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Originally posted by JTsNiners
Originally posted by Mat McBriar

Except us old farts are 100x more reliable to be a WL contender each season. Lincoln at 0 cares still leaves us as a top 5 team in GLB each season.


looks like just outside the top 16


Yeah, our loss to Dallas will drop us in Nibs. We're on track to win the Addicts and possibly Real Thing tournaments (lulz at best) this season so I'm sure we'll be pulled up while other playoff teams rack up their 1 loss.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by .spider.

But doesnt a team like Lincoln still have the drive for Gold? I mean a silver is an amazing accomplishment, but you would think that would be all the motivation you need?


When its me and rusty driving the force...we already have one.


ur fired

o wait, nvm
 
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Originally posted by Mat McBriar
Yeah, our loss to Dallas will drop us in Nibs. We're on track to win the Addicts and possibly Real Thing tournaments (lulz at best) this season so I'm sure we'll be pulled up while other playoff teams rack up their 1 loss.


i think if we won WL we might still be outside the top 20 lulz
 
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Originally posted by Mat McBriar
No doubt we want to win the gold every season. That doesn't mean our coordinators are going to be actively busting their butts week in and week out.


that really doesnt make any sense, cuz umm...that's kinda what it takes, at least for the last 4 games
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Originally posted by JTsNiners
Originally posted by Mat McBriar

Yeah, our loss to Dallas will drop us in Nibs. We're on track to win the Addicts and possibly Real Thing tournaments (lulz at best) this season so I'm sure we'll be pulled up while other playoff teams rack up their 1 loss.


i think if we won WL we might still be outside the top 20 lulz


Would be epic if y'all won WL but had a losing record vs the top 25.
 
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Originally posted by .spider.
Originally posted by Mat McBriar

No doubt we want to win the gold every season. That doesn't mean our coordinators are going to be actively busting their butts week in and week out.


that really doesnt make any sense, cuz umm...that's kinda what it gakes, at least for the last 4 games


3 WL silvers disagree.
 
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Originally posted by .spider.
that really doesnt make any sense, cuz umm...that's kinda what it gakes, at least for the last 4 games


It really doesn't tho. That's just the thing.
 
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Coordinating is like high school homework.

 
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Originally posted by Mat McBriar
3 WL silvers disagree.


But that's my point, why win 3 WL silvers with 0 cares, why not win 3 WL golds w/ >0 cares?

It just doesnt make any sense. You say you want a gold.gif, but at the end of the day you still have to go back to your lives and I go back to mine

oops, got off track there, but at the end of the day you put in no effort, so really it comes off as you dont care whether you get Gold.gif........if you know you got the talent, why not put in the effort, if not for just the last 4 games. I can understand cruising through the Reg season, I would love to be able to afford that luxary, but you would think you could put it into high gear for the last 4
 
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Originally posted by Mat McBriar
Would be epic if y'all won WL but had a losing record vs the top 25.


too early to pull the 0 cares card?
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
It really doesn't tho. That's just the thing.


then why the loss?

I'm not trying to talk smack here, I'm just missing something or completely not understanding your mindset
 
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