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Originally posted by Catch22
Where the DL and LB'ers can start the play. We'll also probably adjust boundaries of the box secondary players are allowed to be in further out.

I don't see this having a major impact on defenses, just some minor limitations. Just can't use your LB's like a DL or CB/SS/FS anymore, they actually have to be a LB. Doubt there will be much change at the DL.

Originally posted by Gerr
I don't see this having a major impact on defenses, just some minor limitations. Just can't use your LB's like a DL or CB/SS/FS anymore, they actually have to be a LB. Doubt there will be much change at the DL.

Gerr you know football, many LBS play the LOS. I use it a ton on Short Bus. I put my Lbs on the line all the time and gamble over loading plays. It works sometimes and fails other times but at least I have that option. When it works on a good play a 4th and 1 sometimes gets stuffed. If they take that away why punt on 4th down anymore?

If they are adding a whole bunch of new formations for offense, what is the point on limiting the defense? I haven't been in GLB to long but even I know that 200-300 plays WILL NOT cut it for all the levels of players.

Originally posted by Deluca0903
If they are adding a whole bunch of new formations for offense, what is the point on limiting the defense? I haven't been in GLB to long but even I know that 200-300 plays WILL NOT cut it for all the levels of players.

Maybe that's the point, by adding more formations on both offense and defense, you will not need to make weird adjustments to the LB or DL to create a good defensive play. Of course I wish they would leave it as-is, but this revision is better than no DPC at all.

LB free movement causes as many or more issues then DL free movement.

What we've been talking about is this:

3 alignments for the DL: Strong/Middle/Weak
9 possible alignments for the LB'ers: Strong/Middle/Weak + Shallow/Medium/Deep
Secondary: Dragable box smaller but have presets that go in logical spots that are outside of the box

Originally posted by LordEvil
LB free movement causes as many or more issues then DL free movement.

What we've been talking about is this:

3 alignments for the DL: Strong/Middle/Weak
9 possible alignments for the LB'ers: Strong/Middle/Weak + Shallow/Medium/Deep
Secondary: Dragable box smaller but have presets that go in logical spots that are outside of the box

I am fine with that. Makes a ton of sense.

My 1st reaction to killing DPC was a good ol' WTF but it makes sense. It is starting to come together what they plan to do. They want to dumb it down so more people can be able and trusting on being a DC while still having the same level of strategy.

Hmm... I'm not sure where I stand on this one yet... there will be a gap for a while where D totally blows whilst everyone gets up to speed with the new system (and before Bort can balance the game based on the new defensive limitations).

However long term I do think it might be (if implemented properly) a step in the right direction, both to balance the game, and reduce the time needed on all sides to be competitive and still enjoy the game.

I do think it will hinder the creative minds of GLB for a little bit, those teams that ran great/unique defenses, but like everything we'll adapt, adjust and overcome. I dare say this may have a pretty significant impact on peewee builds (depending on how many limits are place on the defense, and the opposing nerfs to offense to balance things out).

I did always find it hilarious tho that we couldn't have an OPC because it was 'too exploitable'... to which I've always maintained it would only be exploitable in the same sense the DPC is, so by that logic if one was OP'd and bad for the game both are.

Time will tell on this one I guess.

The reason this game owns so hard is because of the "No Limits" freedom of the AI and DPC..... they should work on an OPC if anything.

Originally posted by DirtyMike
The reason this game owns so hard is because of the "No Limits" freedom of the AI and DPC..... they should work on an OPC if anything.

I agree, but then they will open up double the amount of exploits (which it seems they don't have the ability or desire to fix) and add to the time needed to play this game, GLB is trying to broaden it's appeal to the regular user as opposed to just the hardcore guys.

I'm sure they'll probably set up a hardcore league with unlimited control for us one day, but right now they are trying to make the game more attractive/user-friendly for when they do finally launch or sell it.

I dont really know how to feel about it tbh right now...hasnt really sunk in and I havent had time to really think about it since the announcement. My gut instinct is this will be bad for Pee Wee but better for higher end leagues.

Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
I dont really know how to feel about it tbh right now...hasnt really sunk in and I havent had time to really think about it since the announcement. My gut instinct is this will be bad for Pee Wee but better for higher end leagues.

True, but you can say this about pretty much every change, as everything is designed for those levels. Peewee isn't even an after thought, we just have to play in the same sim.

Still a terrible decision. Limited freedom will close the gap between elite coordinators and just decent ones. (PW level)


Actually the best part about DCing is paying attention to all the little details, even minor ones. It took me couple of seasons of trial and errors to figure out those nuances.

This would only become the glorified version of pre-made plays.

I guess it's time to erase my 1000 custom plays on defense and start honing my rock-paper-scissors skill. lol

Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
I dont really know how to feel about it tbh right now...hasnt really sunk in and I havent had time to really think about it since the announcement. My gut instinct is this will be bad for Pee Wee but better for higher end leagues.

well you should be in favor of this, coz it will prolly favor the big spenders rather than the glb intellects

Originally posted by ManOgwaR
well you should be in favor of this, coz it will prolly favor the big spenders rather than the glb intellects

Yeah cause my 13 pee wee players make me a big spender. You are a moron. Go troll in the silver forums bro.