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Originally posted by Ahrens858


if they condenced the Pro regions and/or made a play in game for the silver trophy winner, I think if you win gold that should be good enough for the w/l, but silver is still a loser and they have to earn a trip up. so they have to play the top demoting teams., but thats just me
 
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prob has like 20 of the top 32 though. 5 teams not worthy, and then 7 that are kinda up in the air
 
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Originally posted by MadCow DTD
so you are telling me LIncoln Nashvile moosejaw are all worse than village dogs?


and the season the smurfs lost to Saigon in the SE Pro CCG, we were easily a top team in GLB, we just lost to a better top team in GLB.. That season we were better than half of the w/l and we were stuck in Pro because we lost to Saigon who was a top 5 team


Lincoln Nashville Moosjaw were not better than half their conference. They lost too many games when they had their chance to proove it. Smurfs lost when they had their chance to prove it. See a theme here? These teams all have nobody to blame but themselves as they all had a shot. Good system IMO.

Originally posted by Ahrens858


The reason I said it's impossible to get the best 32 teams is because it is. Do you think you be the decider? Do you think madcow cow should pick the 32 best? Should Bort decide who should make WL? How about the top 300 teams play eachother 10 times each and then we'll take the top 32? Make it only gold pro teams are allowed in then plenty of good silver teams will say they should be part of the 32?

There is no perfect way. The best way is the current system which gives everybody a chance to make or stay in WL. If they don't qualify... Blame yourself.
 
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I blame bort
 
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Originally posted by ufshowboat
Originally posted by MadCow DTD

so you are telling me LIncoln Nashvile moosejaw are all worse than village dogs?


and the season the smurfs lost to Saigon in the SE Pro CCG, we were easily a top team in GLB, we just lost to a better top team in GLB.. That season we were better than half of the w/l and we were stuck in Pro because we lost to Saigon who was a top 5 team


Lincoln Nashville Moosjaw were not better than half their conference. They lost too many games when they had their chance to proove it. Smurfs lost when they had their chance to prove it. See a theme here? These teams all have nobody to blame but themselves as they all had a shot. Good system IMO.

Originally posted by Ahrens858



The reason I said it's impossible to get the best 32 teams is because it is. Do you think you be the decider? Do you think madcow cow should pick the 32 best? Should Bort decide who should make WL? How about the top 300 teams play eachother 10 times each and then we'll take the top 32? Make it only gold pro teams are allowed in then plenty of good silver teams will say they should be part of the 32?

There is no perfect way. The best way is the current system which gives everybody a chance to make or stay in WL. If they don't qualify... Blame yourself.


if I picked the top 32 teams, the W/L would be stronger IMO, hell if you picked anyone who pays attention to the w/l to pick the teams it would be stronger. i mean who before the season started though EEPL and the 2 Dog teams were going to be good
 
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I tend to agree with ufshowboat. the system is fine as is. each ssn teams are going to bitch about being in the tougher conf. every ssn teams are going to get demoted that are better than a few of those being promoted. big deal. every team that is ever demoted has the chance to earn their stay. if they can't, they can't. that's life. It's bit me in the ass with the Shockers and Hogs already and will this ssn with at least either D9 or the Hogs, quite possibly both. Such is life. If we'd won a game or 2 we let slip away, none of them would have demoted.
 
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Originally posted by PP
I tend to agree with ufshowboat. the system is fine as is. each ssn teams are going to bitch about being in the tougher conf. every ssn teams are going to get demoted that are better than a few of those being promoted. big deal. every team that is ever demoted has the chance to earn their stay. if they can't, they can't. that's life. It's bit me in the ass with the Shockers and Hogs already and will this ssn with at least either D9 or the Hogs, quite possibly both. Such is life. If we'd won a game or 2 we let slip away, none of them would have demoted.


look im not arguing because the smurfs have a chance to demote and i would be pissed, im saying it because I want the best teams in GLB to be in the w/l. there should be any blow outs in the w/l i just think there are a few weak teams in the w/l, thats all, its not really the best of the best as advertised
 
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Originally posted by MadCow DTD
look im not arguing because the smurfs have a chance to demote and i would be pissed, im saying it because I want the best teams in GLB to be in the w/l. there should be any blow outs in the w/l i just think there are a few weak teams in the w/l, thats all, its not really the best of the best as advertised


I wasn't trying to infer that you were posting it because of the smurfs. I agree that it's not the top 32, but don't think it ever will be and ever could be. Shit, to start the ssn, I thought D9 was a top 10 team. Then, Bort makes some changes that impact us a bit more than some others and look at our free fall. There's too many factors to determine who will be the top 32 teams
 
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by MadCow DTD

look im not arguing because the smurfs have a chance to demote and i would be pissed, im saying it because I want the best teams in GLB to be in the w/l. there should be any blow outs in the w/l i just think there are a few weak teams in the w/l, thats all, its not really the best of the best as advertised


I wasn't trying to infer that you were posting it because of the smurfs. I agree that it's not the top 32, but don't think it ever will be and ever could be. Shit, to start the ssn, I thought D9 was a top 10 team. Then, Bort makes some changes that impact us a bit more than some others and look at our free fall. There's too many factors to determine who will be the top 32 teams


i agree, before the season i felt that the smurfs were a top 10 team, but the changes didnt help us as much as it helped other teams,
 
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by MadCow DTD

look im not arguing because the smurfs have a chance to demote and i would be pissed, im saying it because I want the best teams in GLB to be in the w/l. there should be any blow outs in the w/l i just think there are a few weak teams in the w/l, thats all, its not really the best of the best as advertised


I wasn't trying to infer that you were posting it because of the smurfs. I agree that it's not the top 32, but don't think it ever will be and ever could be. Shit, to start the ssn, I thought D9 was a top 10 team. Then, Bort makes some changes that impact us a bit more than some others and look at our free fall. There's too many factors to determine who will be the top 32 teams


other than screens, slightly less catches after PDs (still happen though) and CBs playing inside shoulder what has changed?
Edited by chronoaug on Oct 21, 2010 08:23:05
 
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Originally posted by chronoaug
other than screens, slightly less catches after PDs (still happen though) and CBs playing inside shoulder what has changed?


morale has been changed big time, pass quality over distance, the changes to blitzing (making it so it's the outside blitzes that are gold instead of the inside and needing more speed to pull them off, when our blitzers were more pass rushers, which worked well before that change and allowed them to play run support and in coverage). There's a couple more things I've seen in the sim, but I'll leave it at that. Unfortunately for us, each of them hurt us more than helped. That's GLB, though. It makes it fun and frustrating. The game would be boring if nothing changed.
 
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by chronoaug

other than screens, slightly less catches after PDs (still happen though) and CBs playing inside shoulder what has changed?


morale has been changed big time, pass quality over distance, the changes to blitzing (making it so it's the outside blitzes that are gold instead of the inside and needing more speed to pull them off, when our blitzers were more pass rushers, which worked well before that change and allowed them to play run support and in coverage). There's a couple more things I've seen in the sim, but I'll leave it at that. Unfortunately for us, each of them hurt us more than helped. That's GLB, though. It makes it fun and frustrating. The game would be boring if nothing changed.


yea the little things that the smurfs did last season dont work this season, we had the ability to get tons of pressure with 3 man fronts because our D line was soo good, so we didnt need a blitzing LB and we could have the rest of the team in coverage, so it took us a few games to learn to blitz and still cover people lol. The morale for sure is different.. Last seasons sim was pefect for us
 
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Love both you guys. Smurfs and D9... But you realize how many excusing are spewing out of your mouth right now. Your making it sound like the teams demoting are doing so becuase of sim changes. Same excuse for both of you? I think the teams are demoting becuase they didn't win enough games. The teams earning those last few spots did just that. They earned them because they won enough games. Just take a step back.
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Yea, the sim changes affected other teams more. D9 and smurfs just aren't that good this season. Either other teams caught up to and surpassed them or adjusted to the new season (which isn't much different) better. They're still good teams and WL caliber but not as good. Everyone adjusted. Some better than others. You don't think the passing changes hurt alpine who had one of the best deep attacks in the game with fastest wrs? Not to mention we lost the best blitzing lb in glb in a season when they're really important. Gotta adjust
 
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