Religion is the first step to spirituality. Unfortunately it is usually the only step people take.
Edited by seahawk10 on Aug 9, 2010 13:27:41
Originally posted by detroitdad
Your right on both accounts sir. However, not everyone is like that. I didn't join the Church (Catholic) until I was 32 (I'm now 41) and it has helped me through some tough times. It helped me get a grasp on things that were important.
Your use of "everyone" though is obviously an exaggeration (prolly intentional). Just stating that were not all like that.
Yeah. Attackers of traditional faiths tend to wing around the "you were born that way" thing, but its over done in my opinion. Alot of people of strong faith came to it later in life and in a direction other than their birthright.
Your right on both accounts sir. However, not everyone is like that. I didn't join the Church (Catholic) until I was 32 (I'm now 41) and it has helped me through some tough times. It helped me get a grasp on things that were important.
Your use of "everyone" though is obviously an exaggeration (prolly intentional). Just stating that were not all like that.
Yeah. Attackers of traditional faiths tend to wing around the "you were born that way" thing, but its over done in my opinion. Alot of people of strong faith came to it later in life and in a direction other than their birthright.
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Originally posted by MC_Hammer
This debate belongs in the General Discussion - Politics & Religion sub-forum..... not in OPL.
Tbh, it will prolly stay more civil in here. It takes about 5 posts for the mudslinging and typical talking points to start flying in that forum. Nothing ever gets accomplished, just more of the same partisan bickering.
This debate belongs in the General Discussion - Politics & Religion sub-forum..... not in OPL.
Tbh, it will prolly stay more civil in here. It takes about 5 posts for the mudslinging and typical talking points to start flying in that forum. Nothing ever gets accomplished, just more of the same partisan bickering.
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I think any religion that says it's the only "correct" religion and implies that it's the duty of its patrons to "correct" people who believe in different things is being rather short-sighted. A lot of the problems caused by religion in the world can be attributed to these issues.
I think any religion that says it's the only "correct" religion and implies that it's the duty of its patrons to "correct" people who believe in different things is being rather short-sighted. A lot of the problems caused by religion in the world can be attributed to these issues.
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Originally posted by detroitdad
Your right on both accounts sir. However, not everyone is like that. I didn't join the Church (Catholic) until I was 32 (I'm now 41) and it has helped me through some tough times. It helped me get a grasp on things that were important.
Your use of "everyone" though is obviously an exaggeration (prolly intentional). Just stating that were not all like that.
Only a partial exaggeration to be quite honest... I've known a lot of religious people who get on my nerves, by flaunting their "religion" in my face... Gets a little annoying...
Either way, I love you all
Your right on both accounts sir. However, not everyone is like that. I didn't join the Church (Catholic) until I was 32 (I'm now 41) and it has helped me through some tough times. It helped me get a grasp on things that were important.
Your use of "everyone" though is obviously an exaggeration (prolly intentional). Just stating that were not all like that.
Only a partial exaggeration to be quite honest... I've known a lot of religious people who get on my nerves, by flaunting their "religion" in my face... Gets a little annoying...
Either way, I love you all
Oy. Okay guys, no more P&R debate. Please. 
Just recognize the greatness that is this QB.
Just recognize the greatness that is this QB.
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Originally posted by DrkSandman
Oy. Okay guys, no more P&R debate. Please.
Just recognize the greatness that is this QB.
you started it imo
Oy. Okay guys, no more P&R debate. Please.
Just recognize the greatness that is this QB.
you started it imo
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Originally posted by DrkSandman
Oy. Okay guys, no more P&R debate. Please.
Just recognize the greatness that is this QB.
Dork has spoken.
Oy. Okay guys, no more P&R debate. Please.
Just recognize the greatness that is this QB.
Dork has spoken.
Edited by Austin_Dale on Aug 9, 2010 20:24:36
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Originally posted by MC_Hammer
This debate belongs in the General Discussion - Politics & Religion sub-forum..... not in OPL.
Originally posted by Punk Rock Jocks
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread_list.pl?forum_id=3835
This debate belongs in the General Discussion - Politics & Religion sub-forum..... not in OPL.
Originally posted by Punk Rock Jocks
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread_list.pl?forum_id=3835
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Originally posted by DrkSandman
Just recognize the greatness that is this QB.
all this early success has gotten to your QB's head
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1343903&pbp_id=6280403
get back in the film room nao
Just recognize the greatness that is this QB.
all this early success has gotten to your QB's head
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1343903&pbp_id=6280403
get back in the film room nao
Edited by Ronnie Brown 23 on Aug 10, 2010 10:21:17
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Originally posted by Ronnie Brown 23
all this early success has gotten to your QB's head
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1343903&pbp_id=6280403
get back in the film room nao
owned imo
all this early success has gotten to your QB's head
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1343903&pbp_id=6280403
get back in the film room nao
owned imo
Originally posted by Ronnie Brown 23
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I think any religion that says it's the only "correct" religion and implies that it's the duty of its patrons to "correct" people who believe in different things is being rather short-sighted. A lot of the problems caused by religion in the world can be attributed to these issues.
Thats true
But its also true that without guidance alot of kids or weak minded or troubled folks wind up in nit wit cults.
And its a fact of history that religion helps society (evolutionary theory tells you this since all societies that have survived to the modern age were ones with religious peoples).
So while on a spiritual level I agree its not sound, it probably was sound social/political policy.
As far as the problems that is causing today, that is more a matter of some civilizations, religion and all, having not quite reached the level of civilization as modern societies. Give it another hundred years and those azzhatteries will have come around to a modern live and let live way of life. Always will be some knuckleheads, of course. But they will not have the level of support they do today.
OPL league forums FTW
I think any religion that says it's the only "correct" religion and implies that it's the duty of its patrons to "correct" people who believe in different things is being rather short-sighted. A lot of the problems caused by religion in the world can be attributed to these issues.
Thats true
But its also true that without guidance alot of kids or weak minded or troubled folks wind up in nit wit cults.
And its a fact of history that religion helps society (evolutionary theory tells you this since all societies that have survived to the modern age were ones with religious peoples).
So while on a spiritual level I agree its not sound, it probably was sound social/political policy.
As far as the problems that is causing today, that is more a matter of some civilizations, religion and all, having not quite reached the level of civilization as modern societies. Give it another hundred years and those azzhatteries will have come around to a modern live and let live way of life. Always will be some knuckleheads, of course. But they will not have the level of support they do today.
Originally posted by Talcion
Only a partial exaggeration to be quite honest... I've known a lot of religious people who get on my nerves, by flaunting their "religion" in my face... Gets a little annoying...
Either way, I love you all
There is a difference between being religious, testifying about ones own life changing faith finding, and being the Used Car Salesman yelling at you on the TV or the Door to Door sales pitch.
If someone brings the subject up, as happened here, then I am Johnny on the Spot to defend those of faith. And as a matter of gratitude I tag my teams with a message, not something I used to do before. But I am no fan of the in your face sales pitch crowd. And they certainly exist.
But I have to say its been my experience that the various varieties of the followers of the UnGod are the most likely to offend in that regard. For some reason people who pretend their entire religious view point is supposed to be about Not Knowing somehow feel compelled to make sure everyone else shares their certainty that Not Knowing means there is no God. Some basic insecurity going on there I think, or kiddies who just really resented going to church on Sunday. But as we see here, some folks feel a need to toss religious attacks around for no particularly good reason. Far more than the other way, unless you live down the street from the Mormon Temple or the Jehova Witness Church I suppose.
But anyway, yes, its annoying.
Only a partial exaggeration to be quite honest... I've known a lot of religious people who get on my nerves, by flaunting their "religion" in my face... Gets a little annoying...
Either way, I love you all
There is a difference between being religious, testifying about ones own life changing faith finding, and being the Used Car Salesman yelling at you on the TV or the Door to Door sales pitch.
If someone brings the subject up, as happened here, then I am Johnny on the Spot to defend those of faith. And as a matter of gratitude I tag my teams with a message, not something I used to do before. But I am no fan of the in your face sales pitch crowd. And they certainly exist.
But I have to say its been my experience that the various varieties of the followers of the UnGod are the most likely to offend in that regard. For some reason people who pretend their entire religious view point is supposed to be about Not Knowing somehow feel compelled to make sure everyone else shares their certainty that Not Knowing means there is no God. Some basic insecurity going on there I think, or kiddies who just really resented going to church on Sunday. But as we see here, some folks feel a need to toss religious attacks around for no particularly good reason. Far more than the other way, unless you live down the street from the Mormon Temple or the Jehova Witness Church I suppose.
But anyway, yes, its annoying.
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