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Team in Alpha won't even put up a full roster.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1530


100 chem, 50 man roster. Someone should let them know the max is 55.

Originally posted by StoutOne DTD
Team in Alpha won't even put up a full roster.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1530


100 chem, 50 man roster. Someone should let them know the max is 55.

A team gutted in Alpha last season. No worries.

Maybe they are saving cap room to land a few big time FAs this offseason.

Originally posted by StoutOne DTD
Team in Alpha won't even put up a full roster.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1530


100 chem, 50 man roster. Someone should let them know the max is 55.

They ran out of names at 50.

glad to be back in zeta?

FACK!!!!!

Originally posted by SLZmonster
glad to be back in zeta?

FACK!!!!!

Im going to miss punching you in the moose jaw.

Originally posted by ImTheScientist
Originally posted by SLZmonster

glad to be back in zeta?

FACK!!!!!

Im going to miss punching you in the moose jaw.

who says you wont get your chance? we still got tournies!

NiborRis' rankings have a lot of fun consequences. If you believe in averages, the conferences are basically even if you made any of these switches:

Lincoln or Osaka for any of Rosarica, D9, LOL, Defenders
OR
Cincinnati or Alpine for QCBC

Originally posted by NiborRis

Alpha:
3,7,8,9,10,13,15,17,20,21,22,23,31,48,60,105

Zeta:
1,2,4,5,6,11,12,16,18,19,28,30,41,47,63,97


Average Alpha ranking: 25.75
Average Zeta ranking: 25

Average RANK (re-assign the ranks as 1-32)
Zeta: 15.75
Alpha: 17.25

Again, these even out with ANY of the switches identified above.

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But the logic in me says bullshit. Anybody with eyes would disagree that even after one of those swaps, Zeta is still superior. Why? Because the bottom doesn't REALLY matter. Everybody beats 'em up.

Removing the bottom 4 from each, the average rankings separate (14 vs. 12.66).
If you cut off the bottom half, it continues to grow (10.25 vs. 7.125).
Further compounding the evidence, the #N in Zeta has a better rank than that same #N in Alpha for the entire top 10 of each conference. That is, the 6th best team in Zeta is better than the 6th best in Alpha, etc, all the way down the line.

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The last bit of interesting stuff - of the top 16 teams, 8 are actually in each conference! What does that mean? Maybe that nobody is going to get "snubbed" into demotion by being in the wrong conference. But by the last fact above (#N Zeta > #N Alpha for all of the top 10 in each conference), making it THROUGH the playoffs will be much tougher in Zeta, and for a team currently not projected to make the playoffs, the hill is much tougher to climb in Zeta than in Alpha.

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So yeah, very crude data, but some of the best we have right now. The overall level of talent in each league is pretty even - a reasonable swap could even things out very nicely. But the best dotball looks like it will be played in Zeta.

Mr.Octowned, the only problem with your analysis is it uses last years data. Extended plateau, boosting to lvl 72, reduction of VAs, team movement, Coordinator changes all have a HUGE impact. I have scanned the rosters and my "eye test" says that Alpha is going to be much better than Zeta. I think many are blinded by the "names" in Zeta and not the actual talent lvl.

Week 1 when Alpha beats out Zeta you will see just how right I am.

Originally posted by ImTheScientist


Week 1 when Alpha beats out Zeta you will see just how right I am.

Lol if you're going to make a big rant about boosts, vas, movements, coordinators.

You might as well factor in that either conference could get extremely preferential matchups?

Originally posted by Phil Jackson
You might as well factor in that either conference could get extremely preferential matchups?


At this lvl is there really such a thing?

It makes me feel cheap, dirty and used to do so, but I have to at least partially agree with ITS on this one. D9, for sake of example, brought in 14 new dots. 12 are most certainly upgrades, with 2 being a wash. Now, add in that 36 dots get to boost, though 5 of them are just to hit 72. Then, add on top of that having our DC for more than 4 games of the regular ssn and me not failing miserably at trying to do DC and OC stuff for 3 WL teams during their absence, and I'd like to think we took a p big step up this ssn.

I'm sure the hell not saying Alpha is better than Zeta, that we're the best thing in WL or anything stupid like that.....Just that basing stuff on last ssn is shaky, at best. Flat out, no one knows right now. Hell, who outside of those on the Navs would have said they'd be in the Gold game last ssn? One constant in GLB is that shit changes. Basing anything on the past is dangerous.

Originally posted by PP
It makes me feel cheap, dirty and used to do so, but I have to at least partially agree with ITS on this one. D9, for sake of example, brought in 14 new dots. 12 are most certainly upgrades, with 2 being a wash. Now, add in that 36 dots get to boost, though 5 of them are just to hit 72. Then, add on top of that having our DC for more than 4 games of the regular ssn and me not failing miserably at trying to do DC and OC stuff for 3 WL teams during their absence, and I'd like to think we took a p big step up this ssn.

I'm sure the hell not saying Alpha is better than Zeta, that we're the best thing in WL or anything stupid like that.....Just that basing stuff on last ssn is shaky, at best. Flat out, no one knows right now. Hell, who outside of those on the Navs would have said they'd be in the Gold game last ssn? One constant in GLB is that shit changes. Basing anything on the past is dangerous.

Who are the 2 players that are the "wash"? And I'll say it... "Alpha is better than Zeta and the Kai is the best thing in the WL".

Originally posted by PP
It makes me feel cheap, dirty and used to do so, but I have to at least partially agree with ITS on this one. D9, for sake of example, brought in 14 new dots. 12 are most certainly upgrades, with 2 being a wash. Now, add in that 36 dots get to boost, though 5 of them are just to hit 72. Then, add on top of that having our DC for more than 4 games of the regular ssn and me not failing miserably at trying to do DC and OC stuff for 3 WL teams during their absence, and I'd like to think we took a p big step up this ssn.

I'm sure the hell not saying Alpha is better than Zeta, that we're the best thing in WL or anything stupid like that.....Just that basing stuff on last ssn is shaky, at best. Flat out, no one knows right now. Hell, who outside of those on the Navs would have said they'd be in the Gold game last ssn? One constant in GLB is that shit changes. Basing anything on the past is dangerous.

Agree. BDC for example has only has 10 dots that can not boost this season (a couple are only 1 or 2 boosts with the new system, but they'll be boosting to get to L72 which is nice) and we won't have any 500+ day old dots this season or 320's to start the season (so everyone will have at least L64 gear to start the year which was not the case even at the end of S16). We have a pretty low SP level in the conference right now, but that should go up quite a bit in the preseason. I'll check back then to see where we stand.

Originally posted by ImTheScientist
Who are the 2 players that are the "wash"? And I'll say it... "Alpha is better than Zeta and the Kai is the best thing in the WL".


LOL...of course you'll say it, and you may be right. As far as the 2 "washes" go, I'll keep that one to myself That way every agent no longer with the team can believe it was their dot