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Originally posted by radja mowsalot
the way i envision it is a 63 day season ending and starting on the new season rollover night.

right now, the seasons take approx. 56 to 60 days so the difference would only be about 3 to 7 actual days.

i may not have made this clear, but in my idea all the other leagues would remain 2 day game days. only the new pro leagues would have 3 days to game plan. it would truly be an accomplishment to be signed by a pro league after climbing the ranks of all the other leagues. right now, any warm level 60+ body gets signed because we absolutely need them.


Maybe I am missing something but how does the season last 56-60 days?
 
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Originally posted by rjssob
Maybe I am missing something but how does the season last 56-60 days?


10 day off season and 6 day preseason
 
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Originally posted by Rage Kinard
10 day off season and 6 day preseason


Gotcha, I wasn't thinking off season/preseason...
 
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Apparently 41/42 was the magic number today to get a win!!
 
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Originally posted by StiffarmSteve
GRITS vs Rhinos in the Championship again?!?!?!


Maybe if Dakar doesnt come back in a competitive form.
 
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Originally posted by head1
Maybe if Dakar doesnt come back in a competitive form.


What are you doing here, you need to stay in WPL! Great run up there, congrats...
 
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I guess I'll weigh in on this conversation. I went looking back at our first season..Season 5 - Africa A. Probably the season I enjoyed the most. Only two other teams are still in existence from then. West Nile in AAA and SA Ratels in a minor league. Lot's of good rivalries under the bridge.

I have a lot of respect for you guys who have been battling in out up here for so long. We lost to Sahara Storm today (good game - well deserved victory) However, my main emotion is RELIEF. The upcoming changes seem daunting...at least to this tired out old mailman. I have no access to computers throughout the day and spend WAY too much time already. I cringe at this upcoming offseason regarding recruiting. 20 of the players on the current roster are original Silverbacks. I had a terrible time trying to recruit just a few players last off season. I don't know..For the first time, I haven't renewed my ownership right away - and still haven't. I'm not sure I want to.
 
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Originally posted by Fat Danny
I guess I'll weigh in on this conversation. I went looking back at our first season..Season 5 - Africa A. Probably the season I enjoyed the most. Only two other teams are still in existence from then. West Nile in AAA and SA Ratels in a minor league. Lot's of good rivalries under the bridge.

I have a lot of respect for you guys who have been battling in out up here for so long. We lost to Sahara Storm today (good game - well deserved victory) However, my main emotion is RELIEF. The upcoming changes seem daunting...at least to this tired out old mailman. I have no access to computers throughout the day and spend WAY too much time already. I cringe at this upcoming offseason regarding recruiting. 20 of the players on the current roster are original Silverbacks. I had a terrible time trying to recruit just a few players last off season. I don't know..For the first time, I haven't renewed my ownership right away - and still haven't. I'm not sure I want to.


Happens to the best of us

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I will need 13 to get to 55 this time
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Originally posted by Fat Danny

I have a lot of respect for you guys who have been battling in out up here for so long. We lost to Sahara Storm today (good game - well deserved victory) However, my main emotion is RELIEF. The upcoming changes seem daunting...at least to this tired out old mailman. I have no access to computers throughout the day and spend WAY too much time already. I cringe at this upcoming offseason regarding recruiting. 20 of the players on the current roster are original Silverbacks. I had a terrible time trying to recruit just a few players last off season. I don't know..For the first time, I haven't renewed my ownership right away - and still haven't. I'm not sure I want to.


Most of us have been here man... If you stick with it, good things will happen.
At least that's what I tell myself.
 
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GRiTs have been here since season 3...
 
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Originally posted by rjssob
GRiTs have been here since season 3...


There's not many of us Season 3 teams left...

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After reading through this I can't help but continue to go back to the suggestion that was raised (by me...plug) that addressed every single view of what is wrong with this game. It's really no longer the SIM (while it does have issues) its the ability to have fun.

I will hold to my previous statements that if Bort structured it like this:

1 Pro League structured like the NFL with 16 games and normal playoffs that play for THE Pro title

Multiple "College" Level Conferences that have a SIM generated 10 games, 2 "free" games set during the preseason by owners and then a 6 game tournament bringing in the top 32 teams from this level (like the BCS) to play for a title

Even more next tier set at a High School level. This is a mid-level commitment. Not a full AI, but a but more than Casual. They work like college but you never have a tournament to define one champion. You would have regions with small conferences (no more than 8 teams) where games are played inter-region through random slection and the tournaments are regional

Then you ahve the Pop Warner style beginner leagues.

You also would create a Farm System league. This would allow players like King who could decide he doesn't want his player in the "real world" games and let him put it in the farm league where all games are set by the owners, they get 16 free games to schedule, and there is no official tournaments, etc.

Now the only way this works is if teams aren't allowed to promote/relegate. Players have to "grow up" and move up. No more moving down, no more level 70 stat whores in AA. Owners have to have a pedigree/experience to own a high-leveled team and you can set different flex costs for tiers. This eliminates nearly every issue and is totally scalable today.

People would still be able to get the glory of the lol.gif trophy, the league structure would be solid, forums active, rivalries newed, easier recruiting, owner choice on how difficult they want to be without syphoning players and a separation of those folks who don't care if they win 255-0 or lose because they are storing skill points, etc.

Ahhhh, feel better now, just seems so simple I still can't figure out why it is not in place/discussed.
 
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Originally posted by eastcoastbrian


Now the only way this works is if teams aren't allowed to promote/relegate.


this makes no sense. so the same 32 teams own GLB every season? the same teams dominate the same leagues every season?
 
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Originally posted by eastcoastbrian
After reading through this I can't help but continue to go back to the suggestion that was raised (by me...plug) that addressed every single view of what is wrong with this game. It's really no longer the SIM (while it does have issues) its the ability to have fun.

I will hold to my previous statements that if Bort structured it like this:

1 Pro League structured like the NFL with 16 games and normal playoffs that play for THE Pro title

Multiple "College" Level Conferences that have a SIM generated 10 games, 2 "free" games set during the preseason by owners and then a 6 game tournament bringing in the top 32 teams from this level (like the BCS) to play for a title

Even more next tier set at a High School level. This is a mid-level commitment. Not a full AI, but a but more than Casual. They work like college but you never have a tournament to define one champion. You would have regions with small conferences (no more than 8 teams) where games are played inter-region through random slection and the tournaments are regional

Then you ahve the Pop Warner style beginner leagues.

You also would create a Farm System league. This would allow players like King who could decide he doesn't want his player in the "real world" games and let him put it in the farm league where all games are set by the owners, they get 16 free games to schedule, and there is no official tournaments, etc.

Now the only way this works is if teams aren't allowed to promote/relegate. Players have to "grow up" and move up. No more moving down, no more level 70 stat whores in AA. Owners have to have a pedigree/experience to own a high-leveled team and you can set different flex costs for tiers. This eliminates nearly every issue and is totally scalable today.

People would still be able to get the glory of the lol.gif trophy, the league structure would be solid, forums active, rivalries newed, easier recruiting, owner choice on how difficult they want to be without syphoning players and a separation of those folks who don't care if they win 255-0 or lose because they are storing skill points, etc.

Ahhhh, feel better now, just seems so simple I still can't figure out why it is not in place/discussed.


i like a lot of what you said. something needs to be done because it is becoming work to recruit.

i get 'GLB stress' because during the season the silverbacks have a big game tomorrow, but i dont have time to scout and game plan."

i have always liked the idea of a high school, college, pro format. i think something along this line should be explored. there are problems with any new system. there will be some level of relegation and promotion no matter how we slice it, since teams will want go CPU and such.

a lot of the flaws in the recruiting at the pro level were hidden by the fact that many teams entered the pro level with level 32 to 45 dots and stayed there for 6 to 10 seasons. it's hidden at the lower levels since there are non-boosters to choose from. but now that you have to be level 60+ to have a chance at winning on the pro level, the flaws are quite evident.

i was looking at some other leagues. there is a AAA league, south america i think, with 5 or 6 cpu teams. AAA!?!?!?!? how is that good for GLB? my levle 44 FB is in a competitive minors league with 11 cpu teams in the conference. 2 others have level 20 players. i didn't boost him until the second round of the playoffs because we were on a 13 game win streak of 255-0 games.

something needs to be done to fix the core product. GLB is at a cross roads with its long time players and pro teams. the game needs to be fun again. the changes needs to make the game easier than the course of convoluted changes that have us scrambling to find a CFO who will migrate us through it.
Edited by radja mowsalot on May 13, 2010 17:30:17
 
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