Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Maddoc
It is basically a more numerically precise lolbar.

Lolbars take important attributes, feed them into a bar.

Player Value takes the value of all of your attributes, and spits out a number.

It can be skewed by people putting SP in stupid places, but I doubt we'll end up seeing too much of that.

Pretty much, except player value also includes SA's and held SPs.

If only VA's and AE were lol too?

Originally posted by blln4lyf
As long as the players have the right direction with the builds, which assuming most WL teams are spending most SP's smartly, I think it is a decent amount better than the lolbars. Still, in no way a lock for anything though.

The reason I don't think it's much better than lolbars is because taking major attributes a few caps too far at the expense of SAs/supporting attributes would have a huge positive affect on total SP values. And it doesn't take into effect at all where people spend SP.

This is an extreme example but a C with 107 str, 60 agi, 50 spd, 50 con is gonna have a higher SP total than a C with 102 str, 74 agi, 60 spd, 70 con.

Originally posted by w_alloy
The reason I don't think it's much better than lolbars is because taking major attributes a few caps too far at the expense of SAs/supporting attributes would have a huge positive affect on total SP values. And it doesn't take into effect at all where people spend SP.

This is an extreme example but a C with 107 str, 60 agi, 50 spd, 50 con is gonna have a higher SP total than a C with 102 str, 74 agi, 60 spd, 70 con.

I am with you, its just another lolbars.

I also say this because my team has the worst in the WL

Originally posted by w_alloy
The reason I don't think it's much better than lolbars is because taking major attributes a few caps too far at the expense of SAs/supporting attributes would have a huge positive affect on total SP values. And it doesn't take into effect at all where people spend SP.

This is an extreme example but a C with 107 str, 60 agi, 50 spd, 50 con is gonna have a higher SP total than a C with 102 str, 74 agi, 60 spd, 70 con.

Agreed. thats why I said it could also highlight those who cap build too extreme. But I feel like that is not going to be the case more often than not.

Originally posted by Phil Jackson

But I feel like that is not going to be the case more often than not.

Ya, don't get me wrong, I think looking at the WL teams sorted by average SP total it's obvious there is a pretty strong correlation. And I do think it's better than lolbars. But I definitely wouldn't count Hali out just because they are at 10th or w/e.

Originally posted by w_alloy
Ya, don't get me wrong, I think looking at the WL teams sorted by average SP total it's obvious there is a pretty strong correlation. And I do think it's better than lolbars. But I definitely wouldn't count Hali out just because they are at 10th or w/e.

no way because in the end it also comes down to tactics, AE, Plays, D Al, builds are a big part but not everything.

Don't forget VA's.

Originally posted by blln4lyf
Don't forget VA's.

how could I forget that lol, another MONSTER factor

idk but you repeated tactics 2-3 times lol

different kinds of tactics

Don't forget homefield advantage.

The Jeff Garcia factor is the most important thing being left out of this thread imo.

Don't forget the height factor of QBs and WRs also.

Originally posted by Pariah
Don't forget the height factor of QBs and WRs also.



Height only matters if the QB is throwing in an upward trajectory.

Originally posted by crazy454
how could I forget that lol, another MONSTER factor

VAs are part of builds; you're covered.