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Originally posted by Jiddy78
Did they actually change their defense for Bonn or later? They hadn't the six or so previous...so I'll just debunk that for 2 of the 7 games of which you speak.
I was mainly talking about the offense, there was really no OC for the first 9 games.
Did they actually change their defense for Bonn or later? They hadn't the six or so previous...so I'll just debunk that for 2 of the 7 games of which you speak.
I was mainly talking about the offense, there was really no OC for the first 9 games.
Jiddy78
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Originally posted by Saris
I was mainly talking about the offense, there was really no OC for the first 9 games.
Direct post from MEM forum:
"I'll try now that the teams are sucky like Marblehead"
I was mainly talking about the offense, there was really no OC for the first 9 games.
Direct post from MEM forum:
"I'll try now that the teams are sucky like Marblehead"
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There's also something to be said for match-ups. I knew there were some WL teams who had little hope of beating us, yet could actually beat teams that we had little hope of beating.
Saris
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Originally posted by Jiddy78
Direct post from MEM forum:
"I'll try now that the teams are sucky like Marblehead"
Drewsky took over after the Mayan game. Anyone before that, I still don't know wtf they were doing.
Direct post from MEM forum:
"I'll try now that the teams are sucky like Marblehead"
Drewsky took over after the Mayan game. Anyone before that, I still don't know wtf they were doing.
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People always talk about tactics like the only thing that matters is adjusting for specific opponents. But that is only one part of it. I think a number of the best WL coordinators could make stock AIs that without change would be better than what most pro teams do with heavy adjustments and scouting.
Not really sure about pro tbh but it's at least close. Definitely AAA.
Not really sure about pro tbh but it's at least close. Definitely AAA.
Originally posted by jdbolick
There's also something to be said for match-ups. I knew there were some WL teams who had little hope of beating us, yet could actually beat teams that we had little hope of beating.
very true I saw that with DLDT we could kill some teams and could beat team that DLDT had no chance against.
There's also something to be said for match-ups. I knew there were some WL teams who had little hope of beating us, yet could actually beat teams that we had little hope of beating.
very true I saw that with DLDT we could kill some teams and could beat team that DLDT had no chance against.
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You can only make a good "stock AI" if you have the players for it. On defense at least.
On offense I suppose you can make a stock AI that stretches the D and is hard to play no matter who you are.
On offense I suppose you can make a stock AI that stretches the D and is hard to play no matter who you are.
Jiddy78
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Originally posted by w_alloy
People always talk about tactics like the only thing that matters is adjusting for specific opponents. But that is only one part of it. I think a number of the best WL coordinators could make stock AIs that without change would be better than what most pro teams do with heavy adjustments and scouting.
Not really sure about pro tbh but it's at least close. Definitely AAA.
I don't give tactics that much love as far as results....I'd say that 95% of the time the defense I watched the in the opponent's game right before the one I'm scouting for is exactly the defense I will get vs. my O...and I plan usually accordingly to that just verify the trends backwards in the formations I like....Makes sense considering how LOL this game is that they matter only so much.
Best dots is the way to go.
If you don't have enough of them to cruise to the top (or at least into the dance when you can try/care)...Merge with someone that combined with you can....Other than that, yer running a hamster cage while others that do this sit back and coast. Not a fair deal. But it is what it is....Until that changes, my tactic'ing is done.
At the top level, in a math game, I eventually expect the better agents that aren't in the know from oh....over a year ago... to catch up and then there might be more parity at the top and tactics might become more important...Until then it's massacre city at this level in a good deal of games for the big boys that found their way to dotbuild heaven, whatever that path was...
Of course, then there's the "Be careful what you wish for Jiddy" where I say "Why the f*ck did I WANT to coordinate for 16 games and playoffs every other day again?" Because no sane man after about 1 season would say "Let's do THAT again."
People always talk about tactics like the only thing that matters is adjusting for specific opponents. But that is only one part of it. I think a number of the best WL coordinators could make stock AIs that without change would be better than what most pro teams do with heavy adjustments and scouting.
Not really sure about pro tbh but it's at least close. Definitely AAA.
I don't give tactics that much love as far as results....I'd say that 95% of the time the defense I watched the in the opponent's game right before the one I'm scouting for is exactly the defense I will get vs. my O...and I plan usually accordingly to that just verify the trends backwards in the formations I like....Makes sense considering how LOL this game is that they matter only so much.
Best dots is the way to go.
If you don't have enough of them to cruise to the top (or at least into the dance when you can try/care)...Merge with someone that combined with you can....Other than that, yer running a hamster cage while others that do this sit back and coast. Not a fair deal. But it is what it is....Until that changes, my tactic'ing is done.
At the top level, in a math game, I eventually expect the better agents that aren't in the know from oh....over a year ago... to catch up and then there might be more parity at the top and tactics might become more important...Until then it's massacre city at this level in a good deal of games for the big boys that found their way to dotbuild heaven, whatever that path was...
Of course, then there's the "Be careful what you wish for Jiddy" where I say "Why the f*ck did I WANT to coordinate for 16 games and playoffs every other day again?" Because no sane man after about 1 season would say "Let's do THAT again."
Edited by Jiddy78 on Jan 15, 2010 14:27:57
Originally posted by Jiddy78
I don't give tactics that much love as far as results....I'd say that 95% of the time the defense I watched the in the opponent's game right before the one I'm scouting for is exactly the defense I will get vs. my O...and I plan usually accordingly to that just verify the trends backwards in the formations I like....Makes sense considering how LOL this game is that they matter only so much.
Best dots is the way to go.
If you don't have enough of them to cruise to the top (or at least into the dance when you can try/care)...Merge with someone that combined with you can....Other than that, yer running a hamster cage while others that do this sit back and coast. Not a fair deal. But it is what it is....Until that changes, my tactic'ing is done.
At the top level, in a math game, I eventually expect the better agents that aren't in the know from oh....over a year ago... to catch up and then there might be more parity at the top and tactics might become more important...Until then it's massacre city at this level in a good deal of games for the big boys that found their way to dotbuild heaven, whatever that path was...
Of course, then there's the "Be careful what you wish for Jiddy" where I say "Why the f*ck did I WANT to coordinate for 16 games and playoffs every other day again?" Because no sane man after about 1 season would say "Let's do THAT again."
I plan on opening up all my MoD dots as well as all my players at the end of their careers I encourage others to do so as well, It can only help GLB as a whole to have better built players and agents everywhere.
I don't give tactics that much love as far as results....I'd say that 95% of the time the defense I watched the in the opponent's game right before the one I'm scouting for is exactly the defense I will get vs. my O...and I plan usually accordingly to that just verify the trends backwards in the formations I like....Makes sense considering how LOL this game is that they matter only so much.
Best dots is the way to go.
If you don't have enough of them to cruise to the top (or at least into the dance when you can try/care)...Merge with someone that combined with you can....Other than that, yer running a hamster cage while others that do this sit back and coast. Not a fair deal. But it is what it is....Until that changes, my tactic'ing is done.
At the top level, in a math game, I eventually expect the better agents that aren't in the know from oh....over a year ago... to catch up and then there might be more parity at the top and tactics might become more important...Until then it's massacre city at this level in a good deal of games for the big boys that found their way to dotbuild heaven, whatever that path was...
Of course, then there's the "Be careful what you wish for Jiddy" where I say "Why the f*ck did I WANT to coordinate for 16 games and playoffs every other day again?" Because no sane man after about 1 season would say "Let's do THAT again."
I plan on opening up all my MoD dots as well as all my players at the end of their careers I encourage others to do so as well, It can only help GLB as a whole to have better built players and agents everywhere.
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Originally posted by Jiddy78
I don't give tactics that much love as far as results....I'd say that 95% of the time the defense I watched the in the opponent's game right before the one I'm scouting for is exactly the defense I will get vs. my O...and I plan usually accordingly to that just verify the trends backwards in the formations I like....Makes sense considering how LOL this game is that they matter only so much.
Best dots is the way to go.
If you don't have enough of them to cruise to the top (or at least into the dance when you can try/care)...Merge with someone that combined with you can....Other than that, yer running a hamster cage while others that do this sit back and coast. Not a fair deal. But it is what it is....Until that changes, my tactic'ing is done.
At the top level, in a math game, I eventually expect the better agents that aren't in the know from oh....over a year ago... to catch up and then there might be more parity at the top and tactics might become more important...Until then it's massacre city at this level in a good deal of games for the big boys that found their way to dotbuild heaven, whatever that path was...
Of course, then there's the "Be careful what you wish for Jiddy" where I say "Why the f*ck did I WANT to coordinate for 16 games and playoffs every other day again?" Because no sane man after about 1 season would say "Let's do THAT again."
wow this post was difficult to read
I don't give tactics that much love as far as results....I'd say that 95% of the time the defense I watched the in the opponent's game right before the one I'm scouting for is exactly the defense I will get vs. my O...and I plan usually accordingly to that just verify the trends backwards in the formations I like....Makes sense considering how LOL this game is that they matter only so much.
Best dots is the way to go.
If you don't have enough of them to cruise to the top (or at least into the dance when you can try/care)...Merge with someone that combined with you can....Other than that, yer running a hamster cage while others that do this sit back and coast. Not a fair deal. But it is what it is....Until that changes, my tactic'ing is done.
At the top level, in a math game, I eventually expect the better agents that aren't in the know from oh....over a year ago... to catch up and then there might be more parity at the top and tactics might become more important...Until then it's massacre city at this level in a good deal of games for the big boys that found their way to dotbuild heaven, whatever that path was...
Of course, then there's the "Be careful what you wish for Jiddy" where I say "Why the f*ck did I WANT to coordinate for 16 games and playoffs every other day again?" Because no sane man after about 1 season would say "Let's do THAT again."
wow this post was difficult to read
Originally posted by crazy454
I plan on opening up all my MoD dots as well as all my players at the end of their careers I encourage others to do so as well, It can only help GLB as a whole to have better built players and agents everywhere.
+1. i've opened all of my dots before retiring them.
I plan on opening up all my MoD dots as well as all my players at the end of their careers I encourage others to do so as well, It can only help GLB as a whole to have better built players and agents everywhere.
+1. i've opened all of my dots before retiring them.
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Originally posted by Jiddy78
Originally posted by w_alloy
People always talk about tactics like the only thing that matters is adjusting for specific opponents. But that is only one part of it. I think a number of the best WL coordinators could make stock AIs that without change would be better than what most pro teams do with heavy adjustments and scouting.
Not really sure about pro tbh but it's at least close. Definitely AAA.
I don't give tactics that much love as far as results....I'd say that 95% of the time the defense I watched the in the opponent's game right before the one I'm scouting for is exactly the defense I will get vs. my O...and I plan usually accordingly to that just verify the trends backwards in the formations I like....Makes sense considering how LOL this game is that they matter only so much.
Best dots is the way to go.
For me I would reverse that trend.
Originally posted by w_alloy
People always talk about tactics like the only thing that matters is adjusting for specific opponents. But that is only one part of it. I think a number of the best WL coordinators could make stock AIs that without change would be better than what most pro teams do with heavy adjustments and scouting.
Not really sure about pro tbh but it's at least close. Definitely AAA.
I don't give tactics that much love as far as results....I'd say that 95% of the time the defense I watched the in the opponent's game right before the one I'm scouting for is exactly the defense I will get vs. my O...and I plan usually accordingly to that just verify the trends backwards in the formations I like....Makes sense considering how LOL this game is that they matter only so much.
Best dots is the way to go.
For me I would reverse that trend.
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Originally posted by Saris
Originally posted by Jiddy78
Did they actually change their defense for Bonn or later? They hadn't the six or so previous...so I'll just debunk that for 2 of the 7 games of which you speak.
I was mainly talking about the offense, there was really no OC for the first 9 games.
True story...4 OC's in the 2-7 start Drewsky took over and things got a BIT better
Can't blame the D for what happened early on turnovers were killing us.
Originally posted by Jiddy78
Did they actually change their defense for Bonn or later? They hadn't the six or so previous...so I'll just debunk that for 2 of the 7 games of which you speak.
I was mainly talking about the offense, there was really no OC for the first 9 games.
True story...4 OC's in the 2-7 start Drewsky took over and things got a BIT better
Can't blame the D for what happened early on turnovers were killing us.
Jiddy78
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Originally posted by Deathblade
wow this post was difficult to read
Do I look like Robert f*cking Frost to you?
No...No I f*cking don't.
Here's a paraphrase, just because I like you:
LOLTactics in current setup as some teams are just too good to be out-tactic'ed.
Builds plus uberteams is the way currently.
Eventually n00bs will catch up and make it more balanced as more teams will have available stud builds.
Then tactics will matter more.
Then nobody will want to coordinate....because they won't be able to coast.
Self-defeating prophecy.
wow this post was difficult to read
Do I look like Robert f*cking Frost to you?
No...No I f*cking don't.
Here's a paraphrase, just because I like you:
LOLTactics in current setup as some teams are just too good to be out-tactic'ed.
Builds plus uberteams is the way currently.
Eventually n00bs will catch up and make it more balanced as more teams will have available stud builds.
Then tactics will matter more.
Then nobody will want to coordinate....because they won't be able to coast.
Self-defeating prophecy.
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