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AngryDragon
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Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt
Agree. I like seeing it. It is a cool feature, and while I don't have any players personally who have invested in it... It is a fun SA to see fire.

And I don't think it was over powered. It just seems odd it isn't firing as much.


+1

Usually the HB spins into the defense from what i have seen. On very rare occasions have I seen it actually benefit the HB but it is always fun to watch and post in the team forum when it fires.
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by Track6Track7
Originally posted by Bukowski

I see it doesn't say Spin?


Fuck, wrong play.


Fucking save it.

You think one play is going to prove your case?
 
jdbolick
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Originally posted by Bukowski
I talked to the agent that owns one of those RBs, and he told me that he noticed it firing less as well. He has a RB that activates it often, but has seen a decline recently.

Nevertheless, five in one game for one HB and eight total in another game argues against your case.
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by Bukowski

I talked to the agent that owns one of those RBs, and he told me that he noticed it firing less as well. He has a RB that activates it often, but has seen a decline recently.

Nevertheless, five in one game for one HB and eight total in another game argues against your case.


I looked through Tea Baggins' recent games, and he's only activated it a handful of times, which is pretty rare for him.

I PM'd him asking about it, and he noticed the same thing. I've also talked to a few other agents with Spin dots, and they're noticing the same things.

Just saying, it isn't just one person.

Besides, in the game you linked, both players on that one team had Spin activating. How many times for each player did it fire, compared to how many touches they had?

If it is only activating 2 or 3 times on 20 touches, that really isn't enough to make it worthwhile.
Edited by Bukowski on Dec 30, 2009 17:24:31
 
RobertRJS
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I still see a bunch of things I think are spins, but they don't beak tackles often. I think that's the problem. Spin fires, but rarely works.
 
Track6Track7
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Fucking save it.

You think one play is going to prove your case?


Now that you mention it, the Hedgehogs WRs spun a bunch when I was scouting them, but they did not spin against us upon further review (maybe they did, I just skimmed.) Therefore I can state with 100% certainty that spin was in fact stealth nerfed. Thank you for your attention to detail fine sir, you cracked the case.
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by Track6Track7
Originally posted by Bukowski

Fucking save it.

You think one play is going to prove your case?


Now that you mention it, the Hedgehogs WRs spun a bunch when I was scouting them, but they did not spin against us upon further review (maybe they did, I just skimmed.) Therefore I can state with 100% certainty that spin was in fact stealth nerfed. Thank you for your attention to detail fine sir, you cracked the case.


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jdbolick
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Originally posted by Bukowski
I looked through Tea Baggins' recent games, and he's only activated it a handful of times, which is pretty rare for him. I PM'd him asking about it, and he noticed the same thing. I've also talked to a few other agents with Spin dots, and they're noticing the same things. Just saying, it isn't just one person.

Another game from yesterday with 12 spins in one game: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=979934&mode=pbp

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Besides, in the game you linked, both players on that one team had Spin activating. How many times for each player did it fire, compared to how many touches they had? If it is only activating 2 or 3 times on 20 touches, that really isn't enough to make it worthwhile.

That's what it already did before. You're being ridiculous if you think Spin should fire once every five or ten tackle attempts. Power Through generally fires maybe 2 or 3 times on 20 touches. Like I said, my guy with 18 in Power Through hasn't seen it fire much at all lately.

 
Bukowski
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SAs should fire MUCH more than 3 times (per dot) a game, that's all I'm saying.

SAs aren't worth it if they don't.
 
taurran
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by Bukowski

Why don't the Power SAs ever get a "closer look" ?

Has Power Through been firing as much as it did last season? Hard to say, but I wasn't seeing it much even with 18.


Power Thru isnt that great. All it's good for is adding a pretty (Power Thru) tag on the end of the tackles you would have broken anyway.
 
ryan_grant-25
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lol @ expecting spins to happen every run
 
taurran
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Originally posted by ryan_grant-25
lol @ expecting spins to happen every run


It's not even that. It's that it was supposedly changed with zero notice to the player base...
 
Track6Track7
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Originally posted by Bukowski
SAs should fire MUCH more than 3 times (per dot) a game, that's all I'm saying.

SAs aren't worth it if they don't.


No kidding, my CB had five in sticky hands and that was a waste. Is three measly picks per game too much to ask for?
 
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by jdbolick

Originally posted by Bukowski


I talked to the agent that owns one of those RBs, and he told me that he noticed it firing less as well. He has a RB that activates it often, but has seen a decline recently.

Nevertheless, five in one game for one HB and eight total in another game argues against your case.


I looked through Tea Baggins' recent games, and he's only activated it a handful of times, which is pretty rare for him.

I PM'd him asking about it, and he noticed the same thing. I've also talked to a few other agents with Spin dots, and they're noticing the same thi
ngs.

Just saying, it isn't just one person.

Besides, in the game you linked, both players on that one team had Spin activating. How many times for each player did it fire, compared to how many touches they had?

If it is only activating 2 or 3 times on 20 touches, that really isn't enough to make it worthwhile.


Arent you the coolest kid in HS?
 
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what?
 
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