Warrior General Games

Originally posted by rjssob
All equipment money has been removed, you all can take Manning, I'll just take the Superbowls....

Lol, it's already spent. I heart aeq

Originally posted by rjssob
Here are the numbers, I bet you could just throw in Ryan Leaf to the Pats system and get these numbers....

44-13 Patriots - Sept. 30, 2001 at Foxboro Stadium
Brady: 13-of-23, 168 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Manning: 20-of-34, 196 yards, 1 TD, 3 INTs
Skinny: Tom Brady’s career as a starter got off to a fast start, as the Patriots crushed the Colts in this Week 3 matchup.

38-17 Patriots - Oct: 21, 2001 at RCA Dome
Brady: 16-of-20, 202 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT
Manning: 22-of-34, 335 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Skinny: The then-AFC East rivals met for a second time in the 2001 season, and again the Pats prevailed behind a high-powered offense. Wideout David Patten was the star, catching, rushing and throwing for a touchdown.

38-34 Patriots - Nov. 30, 2003 at RCA Dome
Brady: 26-of-35, 236 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs
Manning: 29-of-48, 278 yards, 4 TDs, 1 INT
Skinny: This shootout was decided by a defensive stand. With 4th-and-goal at the Pats 1 with less than a minute remaining, the Colts’ Edgerrin James took a handoff and was met immediately by linebacker Willie McGinest, sealing the Pats’ win.

24-14 Patriots - Jan. 18, 2004 at Gillette Stadium (AFC Championship Game)
Brady: 22-of-37, 237 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Manning: 23-of-47, 237 yards, 1 TD, 4 INTs
Skinny: The Pats shut down the Colts’ vaunted passing attack with four interceptions, three by cornerback Ty Law.

27-24 Patriots - Sept. 9, 2004 at Gillette Stadium
Brady: 26-of-38, 335 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT
Manning: 16-of-29, 256 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs
Skinny: The defending champion Patriots opened the season with another solid defensive effort, forcing the Colts into three red-zone turnovers.

20-3 Patriots - Jan. 16, 2005 at Gillette Stadium
Brady: 18-of-27, 144 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Manning: 27-of-42, 238 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT
Skinny: The Pats were dominant on this snowy day, led by Corey Dillon’s hard-charging 144 yards on the ground.

40-21 Colts - Nov. 7, 2005 at Gillette Stadium
Brady: 22-of-33, 265 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs
Manning: 28-of-37, 321 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT
Skinny: Manning got his first victory against Brady after six straight losses, burning the Pats for three touchdowns.

27-20 Colts - Nov. 5, 2006 at Gillette Stadium
Brady: 20-of-35, 201 yards, 0 TDs, 4 INTs
Manning: 20-of-36, 326 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
Skinny: The Colts turned the tables on the Pats by winning with their defense, which caused five turnovers.

38-34 Colts - Jan. 21, 2007 at RCA Dome (AFC Championship Game)
Brady: 21-of-34, 232 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Manning: 27-of-47, 349 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Skinny: The Colts completely exorcised their Patriots demons in this game, overcoming a 21-6 deficit with a second-half outburst, paving the way for Manning’s first Super Bowl.

24-20 Patriots - Nov. 4, 2007 at RC Dome
Brady: 21-of-32, 255 yards, 3 TDs, 2 INTs
Manning: 16-of-27, 225 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Skinny: The Pats came out on top in this matchup of undefeated teams, thanks to a Brady-led comeback from a 10-point, fourth-quarter deficit

Look at another fact that how many seasons was Mora the head coach. Notice that when Dungy took over the Colts got alot better. I am not saying Brady is a Bum I am saying you put Peyton in Bradys spot he wins a few more championships. I am also saying that you put Brady in any other offense he is no where near as good. Brady has the rings and hopefully we will see Bill move him just like he moved a couple of the other mainstays so we can get a real comparison to how good Brady is without Coach Belichek.

Originally posted by The Highwayman
Lol, it's already spent. I heart aeq

lol!

Originally posted by rjssob
Why not, the Colts had more talent than the Patriots but they didn't have Brady. Say what you want, but the guy very rarely makes big mistakes in the playoffs and has led his team to 3 Superbowls, something Manning might never be able to do. In any game with equal talent, I am taking Brady over Manning every day of the week.

And here is where you sound like a homer. The Colts have never had half the defense the Patriots have had and Brady isn't asked to do half the things Manning is, throw in Spygate, and the success of a QB who hasn't started since HS it makes QBing the Patriots look a lot less complicated.

Originally posted by rjssob
Here are the numbers, I bet you could just throw in Ryan Leaf to the Pats system and get these numbers....

44-13 Patriots - Sept. 30, 2001 at Foxboro Stadium
Brady: 13-of-23, 168 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Manning: 20-of-34, 196 yards, 1 TD, 3 INTs
Skinny: Tom Brady’s career as a starter got off to a fast start, as the Patriots crushed the Colts in this Week 3 matchup.

38-17 Patriots - Oct: 21, 2001 at RCA Dome
Brady: 16-of-20, 202 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT
Manning: 22-of-34, 335 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Skinny: The then-AFC East rivals met for a second time in the 2001 season, and again the Pats prevailed behind a high-powered offense. Wideout David Patten was the star, catching, rushing and throwing for a touchdown.

38-34 Patriots - Nov. 30, 2003 at RCA Dome
Brady: 26-of-35, 236 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs
Manning: 29-of-48, 278 yards, 4 TDs, 1 INT
Skinny: This shootout was decided by a defensive stand. With 4th-and-goal at the Pats 1 with less than a minute remaining, the Colts’ Edgerrin James took a handoff and was met immediately by linebacker Willie McGinest, sealing the Pats’ win.

24-14 Patriots - Jan. 18, 2004 at Gillette Stadium (AFC Championship Game)
Brady: 22-of-37, 237 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Manning: 23-of-47, 237 yards, 1 TD, 4 INTs
Skinny: The Pats shut down the Colts’ vaunted passing attack with four interceptions, three by cornerback Ty Law.

27-24 Patriots - Sept. 9, 2004 at Gillette Stadium
Brady: 26-of-38, 335 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT
Manning: 16-of-29, 256 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs
Skinny: The defending champion Patriots opened the season with another solid defensive effort, forcing the Colts into three red-zone turnovers.

20-3 Patriots - Jan. 16, 2005 at Gillette Stadium
Brady: 18-of-27, 144 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Manning: 27-of-42, 238 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT
Skinny: The Pats were dominant on this snowy day, led by Corey Dillon’s hard-charging 144 yards on the ground.

40-21 Colts - Nov. 7, 2005 at Gillette Stadium
Brady: 22-of-33, 265 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs
Manning: 28-of-37, 321 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT
Skinny: Manning got his first victory against Brady after six straight losses, burning the Pats for three touchdowns.

27-20 Colts - Nov. 5, 2006 at Gillette Stadium
Brady: 20-of-35, 201 yards, 0 TDs, 4 INTs
Manning: 20-of-36, 326 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
Skinny: The Colts turned the tables on the Pats by winning with their defense, which caused five turnovers.

38-34 Colts - Jan. 21, 2007 at RCA Dome (AFC Championship Game)
Brady: 21-of-34, 232 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Manning: 27-of-47, 349 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Skinny: The Colts completely exorcised their Patriots demons in this game, overcoming a 21-6 deficit with a second-half outburst, paving the way for Manning’s first Super Bowl.

24-20 Patriots - Nov. 4, 2007 at RC Dome
Brady: 21-of-32, 255 yards, 3 TDs, 2 INTs
Manning: 16-of-27, 225 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Skinny: The Pats came out on top in this matchup of undefeated teams, thanks to a Brady-led comeback from a 10-point, fourth-quarter deficit

The difference here is Brady is facing one of the worst defenses in the NFL while Manning is going against one of the best, plus the Patriots were cheaters at that time...

Sorry RJ, but i'm on the Manning side of the argument, and i don't even like the Colts. The way Manning breaks down defenses, and calls most of the offensive plays is just scary from a defensive point of view. I could go on and on on the pros and cons of each and why I think Manning is better, but I'd rather not for time's sake.

That and the facts would beat you all right back in the face. How does the ball get to the hands of the other players on the Patriots, does everyone just fall down or do they play NFL teams as well? Spygate, probably the biggest joke in the history of the NFL because everyone was doing it, the Pats were just arrogant enough to keep doing it. People who think they were breaking down the code at the half of the games are bigger morons because the facts show that the tapes were used for breaking down tenancies by down and distance for future matchups. Facts, they are easy to find, show that Manning has looked average in many a playoff game and I don't see that changing. Half the shit Manning does is for show, but I will agree he is the best Fantasy Football regular season QB in the game....Playoffs, you can all have him because as usual he will come up short. As far as being a homer, not even close, I call them like I see them. If I had to win one game with equal talent on both sides, Manning would not even make my top 2 right now, I would take Big Ben over him. If was drafting in the Top 5 of FF, I would take Manning and Drew Brees over Brady or Ben, but playoffs are a different beast....

Originally posted by rjssob
That and the facts would beat you all right back in the face. How does the ball get to the hands of the other players on the Patriots, does everyone just fall down or do they play NFL teams as well? Spygate, probably the biggest joke in the history of the NFL because everyone was doing it, the Pats were just arrogant enough to keep doing it. People who think they were breaking down the code at the half of the games are bigger morons because the facts show that the tapes were used for breaking down tenancies by down and distance for future matchups. Facts, they are easy to find, show that Manning has looked average in many a playoff game and I don't see that changing. Half the shit Manning does is for show, but I will agree he is the best Fantasy Football regular season QB in the game....Playoffs, you can all have him because as usual he will come up short. As far as being a homer, not even close, I call them like I see them. If I had to win one game with equal talent on both sides, Manning would not even make my top 2 right now, I would take Big Ben over him. If was drafting in the Top 5 of FF, I would take Manning and Drew Brees over Brady or Ben, but playoffs are a different beast....

Homer, Spy-gate will always be attached to the Patriots and Brady. You don't break the rules if it doesn't give you an advantage, there's no point.

You don't think the GRiTs will be taping the DD game today! Like I said, everybody in the NFL was doing the same thing.

Originally posted by rjssob
You don't think the GRiTs will be taping the DD game today! Like I said, everybody in the NFL was doing the same thing.

I've set today's game to Private, hopefully that works.

No need to tape the game, it will be the exact same gameplan as earlier this season. Hopefully we will be able to tackle this time.

Originally posted by rjssob
You don't think the GRiTs will be taping the DD game today! Like I said, everybody in the NFL was doing the same thing.


I don't agree. You are accusing teams of doing something that you have no proof of. Only one team has been caught doing that. No other teams have even been mentioned in this scandal.

As a coach, I can assure you that reading signals on the sidelines could be very beneficial.

Originally posted by msupoke

I don't agree. You are accusing teams of doing something that you have no proof of. Only one team has been caught doing that. No other teams have even been mentioned in this scandal.

As a coach, I can assure you that reading signals on the sidelines could be very beneficial.


Jimmy Johnson and many other coaches have come right out on national television and said the same, yes we tape or taped signals for every game. This isn't High School, this is the NFL and I can assure you that 7-10 different players and coaches are throwing out dummy signals every play so the filming is without a doubt for future use. Funny thing, when the Pats were penalized for that, the next thing was the crying for running up the scores on everyone. Keep reaching...

Originally posted by msupoke
I don't see the Cowboys being able to win in Green Bay. They do not have enough leadership to win on the frozen tundra.

Good call.

Originally posted by rjssob
Jimmy Johnson and many other coaches have come right out on national television and said the same, yes we tape or taped signals for every game. This isn't High School, this is the NFL and I can assure you that 7-10 different players and coaches are throwing out dummy signals every play so the filming is without a doubt for future use. Funny thing, when the Pats were penalized for that, the next thing was the crying for running up the scores on everyone. Keep reaching...

well you made a great point by mentioning Jimmy Johnson. The great Dallas teams sure look like a carbon copy of the Pats of today.

Good call msupoke