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Longhornfan1024
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Originally posted by Vando
Christ. You really do believe that is what is going on, isn't it? Jesus.

Messing with stats is not fucking up the game. The stats are LITERALLY MEANINGLESS. Oh no! Those meaningless stats have been fucked with! Now they're completely MEANINGLESS! Oh wait...


I hope you realize that just because stats are meaningless to you, they might not be meaningless to other people. There is a reason we keep track of stats, why we have trophies for being the league leader, why people bitch all the time about playing gutted teams, why people want to see more than just pancakes as stats for O-linemen, and why people are complaining about what BFM/Hali did. People in this game do care about stats.
 
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Originally posted by CONN CHRIS
Originally posted by Vando

Originally posted by CONN CHRIS


Perhaps. If I spent my time here doing nothing but trying to fuck up forums and the game for other people because that's how I get my jollies I'd hope the dude making money off the folks that I piss off would see fit to throw me off the train eventualy.


Christ. You really do believe that is what is going on, isn't it? Jesus.

Messing with stats is not fucking up the game. The stats are LITERALLY MEANINGLESS. Oh no! Those meaningless stats have been fucked with! Now they're completely MEANINGLESS! Oh wait...


lol - no one buys the garbage you boys are trying to sell anymore.

Actually, that's a dumb statement. Most never have. Most are just fed up with it now.

 
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Originally posted by Joe Buck
Originally posted by silenthatred

Originally posted by CONN CHRIS


Originally posted by silenthatred





Actually, yes they are. That "BS move" created a reaction to prevent "BS moves" from happening in the future.


It's not likely possible to suficiently restrict the system to make it impossible for asshats to pull stunts like this. Better to just ban asshats as they make themselves painfully obvious.




Originally posted by Vando



I said don't post about respect, it's an entirely objective concept that noone is ever going to agree upon. This is how to fix the game, not fix society.


No one is asking for society to be fixed; just to have asshats appropriately dealt with. That's the issue regardless how often you moan that it shouldn't be.



Sure it is...don't allow someone to GM/Own teams in the same league. Which is a horrible idea btw. But what are you gonna do about friend A and friend B who are different people who GM or own those teams? Oh wait, you ultimate solution of "swinging the ban hammer" on things that are completely possible and not against the rules of the game. Following your logic, everyone will be banned for something. Then it will be fixed!


lol, Chris said there was no way to restrict it.

You said "yes there was, there is this sh1tty idea"

Then you proceed to show how that idea is sh1tty and won't work, and then blame Conn Chris for it.


And that's your argument?




No, I blamed him for his resolution of banning everyone. Try to keep up. But since you want me to have an argument, I'll have one. My argument would be stop caring about meaningless stats. There was no way possible Hali was going to lose to BFM, so the only thing you could realistically have a gripe about is stats.
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
I hope you realize that just because stats are meaningless to you, they might not be meaningless to other people. There is a reason we keep track of stats, why we have trophies for being the league leader, why people bitch all the time about playing gutted teams, why people want to see more than just pancakes as stats for O-linemen, and why people are complaining about what BFM/Hali did. People in this game do care about stats.


I know you want good stats. I want good stats too. But until the gutted team issues are fixed, the stats are broken, and making them more broken doesn't mean they weren't broken in the first place.
 
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The best thing to do is to stop replying to their posts or trying to give logical answers to stupid questions they are asking, when there is no way in hell they are going to change their mind. It is pretty obvious they are all OK with what happened and/or they think they did GLB a great service.

Actually that is the second best thing. The best thing would be to let Bort know what you want done about it.
 
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Originally posted by CONN CHRIS
lol - no one buys the garbage you boys are trying to sell anymore.


Nice counterpoint. I concede defeat!
 
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Well thanks for derailing this thread guys. Hope you get banned etc.
 
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Originally posted by The Duff Man
The best thing to do is to stop replying to their posts or trying to give logical answers to stupid questions they are asking, when there is no way in hell they are going to change their mind. It is pretty obvious they are all OK with what happened and/or they think they did GLB a great service.

Actually that is the second best thing. The best thing would be to let Bort know what you want done about it.


Agreed. This is a form of entertainment. At this point, these guys are like the small group at one table making the floor show un-enjoyable for the entire room. I seriously doubt management would be trying to come up with ways to stop that table and future tables from being a problem.
 
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Originally posted by The Duff Man
The best thing to do is to stop replying to their posts or trying to give logical answers to stupid questions they are asking, when there is no way in hell they are going to change their mind. It is pretty obvious they are all OK with what happened and/or they think they did GLB a great service.

Actually that is the second best thing. The best thing would be to let Bort know what you want done about it.


Yeah because no one has complained about gut jobs ruining stats before right? No one has ever complained about mid-season gutting and playoff seedings before.
 
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Originally posted by silenthatred

Well hey, why didn't you say so! If anything makes sense, it's California law!


It's law across the world tbh. Repeat offenders get the harshest penalties.

 
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I'm still confused that if the sim is so fucked and stats are even more meaningless why keep playing the game and trying to get the highest stats and brag about other dots? Just to fuck with other people who do care more? I think that's the whole thing bort was addressing in that post of his. Finding bugs in the sim that don't matter (like being able to kneel the ball the whole time or something else that would never happen with 2 teams who care) aren't that big of a deal and dont' "expose" anything. I guess the thing is that i'm figuring bort wanted people who care about the game, wins, stats, trophies, and other stuff he installed to not be fucked around with by people who are "just doing it for the lulz" and messing with all of that because they don't care. Either way it's not a huge deal but still kinda silly.

Don't really care that much about the whole thing (nor do i really know what's going on but just gathering from a few posts i read) but i guess that is my reasoning in that post i saw of bort's stickied. Halifax better watch out or Bort may Dong them in the playoffs. Guessing he has the donger powers

I mean, i think the sim is still pretty stupid too but at least things get adjusted (for better and worse on some things but on the overall spectrum slightly edges to better) every season or two. I'm not interested in creating many more players after retiring some awhile back mainly because i'm not 100% positive GLB will be around and as active in 12 seasons (~18-20months) by the time a new dot finished. Either that or i'm not sure i'll be that interested even with improvements in almost 2 years
Edited by chronoaug on Nov 6, 2009 08:27:02
 
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We award them for beating the system
 
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Originally posted by GP1
Originally posted by silenthatred


Well hey, why didn't you say so! If anything makes sense, it's California law!


It's law across the world tbh. Repeat offenders get the harshest penalties.



You specifically referred to the 3 strike rule of California. I'm not worried about the laws in other countries, because they all have some that are pretty stupid, some worse than this one, but you aren't going to prison for life for stealing donuts or a pack of gum in many other states than CA.
Edited by silenthatred on Nov 6, 2009 08:29:58
 
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Originally posted by CONN CHRIS
lol - no one buys the garbage you boys are trying to sell anymore.


we sell cable and insurance everybody wants that.
 
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Originally posted by chronoaug
I'm still confused that if the sim is so fucked and stats are even more meaningless why keep playing the game and trying to get the highest stats and brag about other dots? Just to fuck with other people who do care more? I think that's the whole thing bort was addressing in that post of his. Finding bugs in the sim that don't matter (like being able to kneel the ball the whole time or something else that would never happen with 2 teams who care) aren't that big of a deal and dont' "expose" anything. I guess the thing is that i'm figuring bort wanted people who care about the game, wins, stats, trophies, and other stuff he installed to not be fucked around with by people who are "just doing it for the lulz" and messing with all of that because they don't care. Either way it's not a huge deal but still kinda silly.

Don't really care that much about the whole thing (nor do i really know what's going on but just gathering from a few posts i read) but i guess that is my reasoning in that post i saw of bort's stickied. Halifax better watch out or Bort may Dong them in the playoffs. Guessing he has the donger powers

I mean, i think the sim is still pretty stupid too but at least things get adjusted (for better and worse on some things but on the overall spectrum slightly edges to better) every season or two. I'm not interested in creating many more players after retiring some awhile back mainly because i'm not 100% positive GLB will be around and as active in 12 seasons (~18-20months) by the time a new dot finished. Either that or i'm not sure i'll be that interested even with improvements in almost 2 years


This is a lot of typing for not caring.
 
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