Hey I am not taking anything away from Jedi, but I am just saying my FS is the BOMB.
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Originally posted by SheVegas
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10524346
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525027
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525084
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10528162
Plays 2/4 - Bad front 7 play
Play 1 - Pretty well played, but if he didn't break off of the other receiver he'd have been out of position. When a safety doubles he should play over the top, and he was lateral to the receiver
Play 3 - Pretty well read screen but anyone coulda made that tackle (out of like 3 people)
If a FS isn't making a tackle near the LoS, it means the front 7 isn't playing well as a unit, or if on a pass play, the CBs aren't playing well (and neither is the FS if he gave up a pass).
Andy Russell said once that he didn't have to hit the ground in one game. With the Steel Curtain, that meant that the front 7 was playing that well.
I'm not saying that your safety isn't the best. I'm just saying that, from a football perspective, those HIGHLIGHTS aren't even that impressive (much less would be his lowlights).
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10524346
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525027
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525084
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10528162
Plays 2/4 - Bad front 7 play
Play 1 - Pretty well played, but if he didn't break off of the other receiver he'd have been out of position. When a safety doubles he should play over the top, and he was lateral to the receiver
Play 3 - Pretty well read screen but anyone coulda made that tackle (out of like 3 people)
If a FS isn't making a tackle near the LoS, it means the front 7 isn't playing well as a unit, or if on a pass play, the CBs aren't playing well (and neither is the FS if he gave up a pass).
Andy Russell said once that he didn't have to hit the ground in one game. With the Steel Curtain, that meant that the front 7 was playing that well.
I'm not saying that your safety isn't the best. I'm just saying that, from a football perspective, those HIGHLIGHTS aren't even that impressive (much less would be his lowlights).
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Originally posted by mikelj
Hey I am not taking anything away from Jedi, but I am just saying my FS is the BOMB.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10528196
I don't think you're taking much away from him
Hey I am not taking anything away from Jedi, but I am just saying my FS is the BOMB.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10528196
I don't think you're taking much away from him
Originally posted by mikelj
I would hope not being 11 levels lower.
You can't be the best and then whine about levels....You either are or you aren't?
I would hope not being 11 levels lower.
You can't be the best and then whine about levels....You either are or you aren't?
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I am the best FS in the league, AND just happen to be lvl 52. So yes you can be both. Showing how Jedi runs someone over on a play isnt something new by the way, is he a FS? Next point genius.
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Originally posted by rjssob
Originally posted by SheVegas
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10524346
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525027
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525084
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10528162
Funny I look at this game and I see this....
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608107
Stats are for losers my friend! I will give credit for being one of the most comical threads of the season....
FUNNY I LOOK AND SEE THIS
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608178
Highwayman knows I have a lot of respect for him and TLGOT, hell we never beat them, but they join you RJ and boom ...you opened yourself up for that
Originally posted by SheVegas
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10524346
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525027
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525084
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10528162
Funny I look at this game and I see this....
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608107
Stats are for losers my friend! I will give credit for being one of the most comical threads of the season....
FUNNY I LOOK AND SEE THIS
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608178
Highwayman knows I have a lot of respect for him and TLGOT, hell we never beat them, but they join you RJ and boom ...you opened yourself up for that
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Originally posted by mikelj
I am the best FS in the league, AND just happen to be lvl 52. So yes you can be both. Showing how Jedi runs someone over on a play isnt something new by the way, is he a FS? Next point genius.
RJ is not a genius.....nice guy, but not a genius...again ITP best FS in APL.....no other names even nominated in 4 pages...LMAO
I am the best FS in the league, AND just happen to be lvl 52. So yes you can be both. Showing how Jedi runs someone over on a play isnt something new by the way, is he a FS? Next point genius.
RJ is not a genius.....nice guy, but not a genius...again ITP best FS in APL.....no other names even nominated in 4 pages...LMAO
Originally posted by mikelj
I am the best FS in the league, AND just happen to be lvl 52. So yes you can be both. Showing how Jedi runs someone over on a play isnt something new by the way, is he a FS? Next point genius.
When replays show your flaws, you blame it on the level. That in itself would negate the fact of you stating you are the best of which you are not. Good luck in the playoffs this year Vegas!
Ooops, sorry Vegas you guys won't be in the playoffs again!
I am the best FS in the league, AND just happen to be lvl 52. So yes you can be both. Showing how Jedi runs someone over on a play isnt something new by the way, is he a FS? Next point genius.
When replays show your flaws, you blame it on the level. That in itself would negate the fact of you stating you are the best of which you are not. Good luck in the playoffs this year Vegas!
Ooops, sorry Vegas you guys won't be in the playoffs again!
Edited by rjssob on Jul 18, 2009 11:07:30
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ALL PLAYERS HAVE FLAWS. BUT name a better FS, I am waiting. You cant because ITP is the best in the league. 2 years running. Pretty amazing, CONSIDERING HIS LEVEL. That is my point, pretty easy to be the best when are are at or exceed league avg in level. Not as easy when you are prob at least 5 lvls lower than league avg.
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Originally posted by SheVegas
Originally posted by rjssob
Originally posted by SheVegas
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10524346
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525027
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525084
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10528162
Funny I look at this game and I see this....
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608107
Stats are for losers my friend! I will give credit for being one of the most comical threads of the season....
FUNNY I LOOK AND SEE THIS
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608178
Highwayman knows I have a lot of respect for him and TLGOT, hell we never beat them, but they join you RJ and boom ...you opened yourself up for that
Before you start shit... you played a team with like 0 chemistry. Look at how they played for the first few games then how they played after that.
Originally posted by rjssob
Originally posted by SheVegas
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10524346
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525027
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525084
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10528162
Funny I look at this game and I see this....
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608107
Stats are for losers my friend! I will give credit for being one of the most comical threads of the season....
FUNNY I LOOK AND SEE THIS
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608178
Highwayman knows I have a lot of respect for him and TLGOT, hell we never beat them, but they join you RJ and boom ...you opened yourself up for that
Before you start shit... you played a team with like 0 chemistry. Look at how they played for the first few games then how they played after that.
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Originally posted by mikelj
You are wrong Randey. You are wrong. There is a reason he is good, a superior build. Period. Dont look at his stats, look at his play, how he breaks on plays, etc. He is a great Centerfield FS. He is obviously built for speed, and does well with it.
It helps when you know how to build a FS.
udontknowme
I'm not even about to pull out the experience card on this one, if you knew me you'd know that I know enough about FS's and the secondary in general as pertains to this game to know your FS isn't the shizzle.
If this thread demanded an intelligent response, I may have bothered to post one. Very few players in this game can actually talk your talk and back it up, but watching you try reveals a lot about you.
You are wrong Randey. You are wrong. There is a reason he is good, a superior build. Period. Dont look at his stats, look at his play, how he breaks on plays, etc. He is a great Centerfield FS. He is obviously built for speed, and does well with it.
It helps when you know how to build a FS.
udontknowme
I'm not even about to pull out the experience card on this one, if you knew me you'd know that I know enough about FS's and the secondary in general as pertains to this game to know your FS isn't the shizzle.
If this thread demanded an intelligent response, I may have bothered to post one. Very few players in this game can actually talk your talk and back it up, but watching you try reveals a lot about you.
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Originally posted by soapbox
Originally posted by SheVegas
Originally posted by rjssob
Originally posted by SheVegas
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10524346
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525027
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525084
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10528162
Funny I look at this game and I see this....
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608107
Stats are for losers my friend! I will give credit for being one of the most comical threads of the season....
FUNNY I LOOK AND SEE THIS
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608178
Highwayman knows I have a lot of respect for him and TLGOT, hell we never beat them, but they join you RJ and boom ...you opened yourself up for that
Before you start shit... you played a team with like 0 chemistry. Look at how they played for the first few games then how they played after that.
Sure blame it on chemistry
Originally posted by SheVegas
Originally posted by rjssob
Originally posted by SheVegas
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10524346
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525027
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525084
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10528162
Funny I look at this game and I see this....
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608107
Stats are for losers my friend! I will give credit for being one of the most comical threads of the season....
FUNNY I LOOK AND SEE THIS
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608178
Highwayman knows I have a lot of respect for him and TLGOT, hell we never beat them, but they join you RJ and boom ...you opened yourself up for that
Before you start shit... you played a team with like 0 chemistry. Look at how they played for the first few games then how they played after that.
Sure blame it on chemistry
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Originally posted by soapbox
Originally posted by SheVegas
Originally posted by rjssob
Originally posted by SheVegas
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10524346
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525027
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525084
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10528162
Funny I look at this game and I see this....
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608107
Stats are for losers my friend! I will give credit for being one of the most comical threads of the season....
FUNNY I LOOK AND SEE THIS
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608178
Highwayman knows I have a lot of respect for him and TLGOT, hell we never beat them, but they join you RJ and boom ...you opened yourself up for that
Before you start shit... you played a team with like 0 chemistry. Look at how they played for the first few games then how they played after that.
2 days after we beat them they do this against the Warlords
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608190
Man must have gained 100 chem in 2 days
Originally posted by SheVegas
Originally posted by rjssob
Originally posted by SheVegas
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10524346
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525027
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10525084
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=608107&pbp_id=10528162
Funny I look at this game and I see this....
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608107
Stats are for losers my friend! I will give credit for being one of the most comical threads of the season....
FUNNY I LOOK AND SEE THIS
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608178
Highwayman knows I have a lot of respect for him and TLGOT, hell we never beat them, but they join you RJ and boom ...you opened yourself up for that
Before you start shit... you played a team with like 0 chemistry. Look at how they played for the first few games then how they played after that.
2 days after we beat them they do this against the Warlords
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=608190
Man must have gained 100 chem in 2 days
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Originally posted by mikelj
ALL PLAYERS HAVE FLAWS. BUT name a better FS, I am waiting. You cant because ITP is the best in the league. 2 years running. Pretty amazing, CONSIDERING HIS LEVEL. That is my point, pretty easy to be the best when are are at or exceed league avg in level. Not as easy when you are prob at least 5 lvls lower than league avg.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=366822
Maybe not the best in the league, but he plays well.
Comparative stats (Duke : Possible)
Ms Tk : 2:12
Tk/PD Ratio (generally a DB has a low tackle to pd ratio. If it's high either he's not good or his front 7 isn't good): 77/23 : 34/29
It's hard to statistically compare DBs, as I've said. However, having 6 times as many missed tackles is pretty bad. Also, I'm sure that more balls are thrown Possible's way, and he has less PDs than Duke. The best statistical indicator of good DB play is forced incompletion rate (how many times he swats the ball, intercepts it, or knocks it loose from the receiver)
Now I can look through to give you a forced incompletion rate if you want, but if I do and Possible doesn't have the best %, you'll have to concede that he isn't the best. My guess is he isn't even that close with that low of PDs.
Edit: [fixed a smiley bug]
ALL PLAYERS HAVE FLAWS. BUT name a better FS, I am waiting. You cant because ITP is the best in the league. 2 years running. Pretty amazing, CONSIDERING HIS LEVEL. That is my point, pretty easy to be the best when are are at or exceed league avg in level. Not as easy when you are prob at least 5 lvls lower than league avg.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=366822
Maybe not the best in the league, but he plays well.
Comparative stats (Duke : Possible)
Ms Tk : 2:12
Tk/PD Ratio (generally a DB has a low tackle to pd ratio. If it's high either he's not good or his front 7 isn't good): 77/23 : 34/29
It's hard to statistically compare DBs, as I've said. However, having 6 times as many missed tackles is pretty bad. Also, I'm sure that more balls are thrown Possible's way, and he has less PDs than Duke. The best statistical indicator of good DB play is forced incompletion rate (how many times he swats the ball, intercepts it, or knocks it loose from the receiver)
Now I can look through to give you a forced incompletion rate if you want, but if I do and Possible doesn't have the best %, you'll have to concede that he isn't the best. My guess is he isn't even that close with that low of PDs.
Edit: [fixed a smiley bug]
Edited by soapbox on Jul 18, 2009 11:18:33
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