Warrior General Games

Well ultimately I agree with you on your opening statement, however not for the reasons you listed. Jerry is the biggest problem in Dallas, however seeing as how we cant fire him we have to live with him. Phillips is a "buddy" coach. Despite all the knocks against him, he's actually a very competent coach... I just dont like his style and its not what the team needs. However Phillips isnt the reason we are losing, hell his 22-10 record is great. TO was a distraction and created drama. The media overblew, but that still adds fuel to the fire. Romo is very focused on the game, then again if all you watch is the media you'll get the impression that he's running off to Mexico every weekend.

This is still an extremely young team, most of our core has only been in the league 4 or 5 years. Despite your opinion of Williams ability to run routes, the guy is still a very good reciever. Is he all pro? No. Is he a solid option? absolutely. Witten and Bennett are both great safety valves in the middle, and we have two backs in Barber and Jones who can be viable recieving threats as well. Crayton is an above average #3... so the real question is whether or not Austin is ready to step into the role of the #2. Most Dallas fans are very confident in him... and no one is worried about our recieving game this season.

What this team needs is a leader to get our act straight and motivate us, we tried to sign Lewis but it didnt happen. However letting loose on the a few of the distractions will help keep the team focused and ultimately bring more unity.

Originally posted by Parab00n
Originally posted by KellerFox

I strongly disagree Parab00n. TO is never the perfect teamate. He is a "perfect" (everyone has flaws) player to have on the field, but he's never a perfect teamate. Ive been a strong supporter of him while he was in Dallas... but I was also one calling for him to be cut. The guy is a horrible teamate and he is a distraction. The media has over inflated everything that has happened, but the fact is TO has also never been the guy would sit down with everyone and say "WE can do this." Football is a team game, and TO still seems to think that everyone else on the roster just needs to put the burden on his shoulders. Helluva player on the field, but not the guy you want on your team.

TO wasn't anywhere near the biggest problem for Dallas, they have a weak coach, a QB who would rather concentrate on shit off the field, and a TE who isn't man enough to say something to someones face. There is a reason that Dallas hasn't won a playoff game in 10+ years and while TO was certainly a problem there, cutting him doesn't fix the fucking gash in the side of the boat. Who is Dallas going to throw too now? Roy Williams? He can't run a route to save his life. The perfect scenario would have been to sign Ray Lewis this off season. He would have walked into the locker room and instantly became the face and leader of that team. The only hope this season is if Jason Garrett pulls his head out of his ass and pounds Barber and Jones all damn game.

Exactly, my worse fear is the Cowboys win the Super Bowl...Now I will be extremely happy, but BSPN will say yep cause T.O. is gone...when in reality, and I hate using injuries as an excuse....but Jones gone since week 6...Barber dinged up all season...Romo out 3 or 4 games....That is what hurt, last season not T.O.
As far as Romo, I like the guy, but he really pissed me off after the Eagles game when he said....football is just a game, you win the Super Bowl...OK.....you lose....OK........Well maybe if I had his cash, and new I was going home to muff dive into Jessica I would have that attitude.

Football is the weirdest sport, and anyone who has played it will agree. It is the ultimate team sport, but it's also a very individual sport, especially for receivers and linemen. On the DL, all you do is rush the passer (in a tampa 2 especially, but ofc every scheme has 1 gap plays) or cover your gap. On the OL, all you do is block your guy or your zone (man/zone blocking respectively ofc). At WR, all you do is run your route or block your CB.

However, TO does the one terrible thing that WRs can do... he was affecting Romo's progressions. He's emphasizing his read, thus hampering every other receiver's read (receiver, not just wr). Romo does a great job of making plays outside of the play. When you restrict the "outside of the play" part... eh... Romo isn't an impressive pocket passer tbqh.

So yeah, TO did affect the offense. Believe it.

Most logical thing stated in this thread "TO wasn't anywhere near the biggest problem for Dallas, they have a weak coach"...He is only and should only be a DC, he can not be a head coach and has no discipline with his team. People can say what they want about Moss, but since coming to the Patriots he has been great and that is because of a great coach and a great core of players who are pro team and not individual. Worse thing Jones did was get rid of Parcells. Football players need discipline and Phillips demands nothing from his players....

Originally posted by rjssob
Most logical thing stated in this thread "TO wasn't anywhere near the biggest problem for Dallas, they have a weak coach"...He is only and should only be a DC, he can not be a head coach and has no discipline with his team. People can say what they want about Moss, but since coming to the Patriots he has been great and that is because of a great coach and a great core of players who are pro team and not individual. Worse thing Jones did was get rid of Parcells. Football players need discipline and Phillips demands nothing from his players....

Agree Phillips great DC...head coach no....I also am not so sure about Garrett as head coach......Although I am not a huge Parcells fan....I think he does a great job of turning around teams(meaning getting teams competitive)....But what has he won Super Bowl wise in the last 20 years????

Originally posted by rjssob
Most logical thing stated in this thread "TO wasn't anywhere near the biggest problem for Dallas, they have a weak coach"...He is only and should only be a DC, he can not be a head coach and has no discipline with his team. People can say what they want about Moss, but since coming to the Patriots he has been great and that is because of a great coach and a great core of players who are pro team and not individual. Worse thing Jones did was get rid of Parcells. Football players need discipline and Phillips demands nothing from his players....

Wade isn't a bad coach. Wrong coach? Maybe for the Cowboys, where they have a bunch of prima donnas, but not a bad coach. Too laid back? What about Dungy? What about Lovie Smith, who was somehow able to take that shitty of an offense to a superbowl?

However, I do agree that Parcells was a better idea. I think he's wildly overrated, but he was a top 5 coach when he was fired.

i like how my affirmation of a GLB team making the playoofs turned into a real NFL conversation.

Originally posted by rjssob
Most logical thing stated in this thread "TO wasn't anywhere near the biggest problem for Dallas, they have a weak coach"...He is only and should only be a DC, he can not be a head coach and has no discipline with his team. People can say what they want about Moss, but since coming to the Patriots he has been great and that is because of a great coach and a great core of players who are pro team and not individual. Worse thing Jones did was get rid of Parcells. Football players need discipline and Phillips demands nothing from his players....

Again, your hit and miss. Parcells had to go... coaching had just passed him bye and he was holding us back. We needed to open our offense up and we had the personel to be more agressive on defense. Parcells is a great draft talent evaluator and I wish we would have kept him on as the GM and replaced him with another head coach, but it was just time for the marrige to end. As a Cowboy fan and a fan of football, I think the disciplinarian approach is the best route. Wade wasnt my choice as HC and I would be happy to drop him in a heart beat for a Cowher or Jimmy Johnson... however with Jerry that wont ever happen again. Which brings me back to my point. Jerry is the problem.

We went 13-3 with Wade so you cant blame his coaching skills. The difference this season was the team started to splinter. You can blame Wade for not forcing the players to stay in line, you can blame Romo (or whomever you want to assign as "team leader") for not being a strong enough glue, but ultimately the blame has to cause on where the problem began... and thats with players who bought into the "I" before "we" concept and were vocal about it (TO being the most predominant of that mindset).

This board moves to fast, I start a post and by the time I post it 4 more people have posted

And sorry for the hi-jack Robert

Regular season, who cares! Phillips is like Henry Winkler in the Waterboy, and is not a head coach for any team who wants to win a superbowl. I guess you are right about Parcells, it seems as though being in Miami has really showed that his time has passed. He instills accountability in players and the last time he was in the Superbowl was with the Pats in 95 I believe. I love the statement, the game has passed him by! Does blocking and tackling not matter anymore, had Parcells stayed Dallas would have been in a Superbowl by now. You say discipline is the way to go, yet Parcells had to go which contradicts your point. You would take Cowher as a Head Coach whose biggest play was should I run the Bus to the left or the right and let our defense win it for us! Wow, I am all over the road on this one....

Everyone clap for reading comprehension!

Had you actually bothered to read my post you would see that I said coaching passed him bye, but that he makes one helluva GM. He's a great talent evaluator and knows how to run a team. However as a coach he was way to conservative in his play calling and clearly never adjusted to the slight changes that took place between the mid '90s and the current period.

As far as giving him the boot, he had slightly ruffled feathers with some of the players and as stated was getting roasted for his horrible play calling. Hell look at what Sean Payton was able to do when he got away from Parcells. I want a diciplinarian, but again as stated thats not going to happen with Jerry who I consider the problem. How is that contradicting? Especially when you actually read what I posted about Parcells.

Originally posted by rjssob
Regular season, who cares! Phillips is like Henry Winkler in the Waterboy, and is not a head coach for any team who wants to win a superbowl. I guess you are right about Parcells, it seems as though being in Miami has really showed that his time has passed. He instills accountability in players and the last time he was in the Superbowl was with the Pats in 95 I believe. I love the statement, the game has passed him by! Does blocking and tackling not matter anymore, had Parcells stayed Dallas would have been in a Superbowl by now. You say discipline is the way to go, yet Parcells had to go which contradicts your point. You would take Cowher as a Head Coach whose biggest play was should I run the Bus to the left or the right and let our defense win it for us! Wow, I am all over the road on this one....

How did Parcells do in the SB in 95...unless you win it, who cares.....That is the expectations of True Cowboy fans.....That is why I laugh when BSPN says the Boys haven't won a playoff game in 12 years...Guess what....lets say they made and won the first playoff game for the last 12 years and then lost...What would BSPN say...Well the Boys havn;t made it past the first round of the playoffs in 12 seasons.....So guess what, as a Boys fan for over 30 years I care about 1 thing....THE RING.

Yet despite having not won a playoff game in 12 years we still have the most playoff wins of all time.

And rjssob, that last post in response to you might have come across a little "jackass-esque" so I want to appoligize for that, its been a long night dealing with a few issues and i've just been trying to unwind. I do strongly disagree with your thoughts on the subject though.

It's all good with me, something to do while waiting for the season to begin....Next Topic?