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Originally posted by California
Fellas, let's just be honest with ourselves for a second. Let's collectively take a step back............. You can be successful using a balanced offense, sure, but essentially every season... The team that best exploits that season's sim is the team that wins. That's GLB.

Who's the most famous player this season? It's Larry Csonka of the Monmouth Evil Monkeys, the best power back in the game for now. Do you think you should try to be oh so original here this season 8 by making a speed back who you hope will perform on the level of Csonka? Well it can't happen. Sorry. Maybe next season?? But for now, you go with the hot hand. If a guy has a perfect game going? Do you take him out because he's exploiting the other team? If a hockey player scores a hat trick, do you sit him because he's too good??? Of course not.

C'mon guys, if something works, it works. This is a simulation, not a pissing contest. If you know you gain a strategic advantage by doing something, why intentionally not do it? Because you have integrity? Oh wow, this is PRECISELY the place where you should take a moral stand. MY MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE ROLE PLAYING GAME FOOTBALL SIMULATION TEAM WILL NOT BE CAUGHT DEAD RUNNING ONE PLAY! I AM A MAN OF INTEGRITY, CHARACTER AND INGENUITY! I ONLY FIND TRUE GLORY IN RUNNING OFF TACKLE HANDOFFS TO MY FB! GOD BLESS A BALANCED OFFENSE IN WHICH I DO NOT GIVE THE BALL TO MY BEST PLAYER AS MUCH AS I CAN USING A PLAY I KNOW WORKS REALLY REALLY WELL!!! HOW DARE YOU USE A PLAY THAT IS WORKING TOO WELL!! ARE YOU NOT A MAN! COME WITH ME AND PASS THE BALL TO YOUR WR! SURE THE QB HAS A 51% COMPLETION PERCENTAGE AND THE WR IS AVERAGING 1.2 YAC, BUT AT LEAST YOU'LL BE A REAL MAN!!!!

Give me a break kids. When we all played madden on sega and super nintendo, did you truly use the whole playbook? Did you sincerely use the full playbook? That's where this game is at in terms of offensive playcalling. C'mon fellas, be honest with yourselves. You found a few good plays that you liked and you ran them into the ground. Why? Because they worked and you could trust them.

If people want to play the same way here, that's their own business. If you don't like it, stop them as best you can. That's YOUR ONLY RESPONSIBILITY. Do you honestly believe that giving people shit will remedy this? If you can't stop them, outexploit them. What do you want the exploiters to say? "Oh good for you, you lost but at least you ran 33 unique plays!!! Hooray!! You're obviously the better team then!"

If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at Bort. This is his creation. This is his primitive game that is still developing and weeding out exploits and unfortunately, he's creating them. Until we reach that point where there are no exploits (not happening, this will never be GLB Beta Utopia), either be the dumbass that knows something works and refuses to do it or be the guy who takes advantage of it and wins. A win is a win is a win, boys. The stubborn refusal to take advantage of a play that is working really well doesn't determine a win on a football field. Winning does.

Dante, feel free to address any of my points through rational discourse.

Originally posted by California
Originally posted by California

Fellas, let's just be honest with ourselves for a second. Let's collectively take a step back............. You can be successful using a balanced offense, sure, but essentially every season... The team that best exploits that season's sim is the team that wins. That's GLB.

Who's the most famous player this season? It's Larry Csonka of the Monmouth Evil Monkeys, the best power back in the game for now. Do you think you should try to be oh so original here this season 8 by making a speed back who you hope will perform on the level of Csonka? Well it can't happen. Sorry. Maybe next season?? But for now, you go with the hot hand. If a guy has a perfect game going? Do you take him out because he's exploiting the other team? If a hockey player scores a hat trick, do you sit him because he's too good??? Of course not.

C'mon guys, if something works, it works. This is a simulation, not a pissing contest. If you know you gain a strategic advantage by doing something, why intentionally not do it? Because you have integrity? Oh wow, this is PRECISELY the place where you should take a moral stand. MY MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE ROLE PLAYING GAME FOOTBALL SIMULATION TEAM WILL NOT BE CAUGHT DEAD RUNNING ONE PLAY! I AM A MAN OF INTEGRITY, CHARACTER AND INGENUITY! I ONLY FIND TRUE GLORY IN RUNNING OFF TACKLE HANDOFFS TO MY FB! GOD BLESS A BALANCED OFFENSE IN WHICH I DO NOT GIVE THE BALL TO MY BEST PLAYER AS MUCH AS I CAN USING A PLAY I KNOW WORKS REALLY REALLY WELL!!! HOW DARE YOU USE A PLAY THAT IS WORKING TOO WELL!! ARE YOU NOT A MAN! COME WITH ME AND PASS THE BALL TO YOUR WR! SURE THE QB HAS A 51% COMPLETION PERCENTAGE AND THE WR IS AVERAGING 1.2 YAC, BUT AT LEAST YOU'LL BE A REAL MAN!!!!

Give me a break kids. When we all played madden on sega and super nintendo, did you truly use the whole playbook? Did you sincerely use the full playbook? That's where this game is at in terms of offensive playcalling. C'mon fellas, be honest with yourselves. You found a few good plays that you liked and you ran them into the ground. Why? Because they worked and you could trust them.

If people want to play the same way here, that's their own business. If you don't like it, stop them as best you can. That's YOUR ONLY RESPONSIBILITY. Do you honestly believe that giving people shit will remedy this? If you can't stop them, outexploit them. What do you want the exploiters to say? "Oh good for you, you lost but at least you ran 33 unique plays!!! Hooray!! You're obviously the better team then!"

If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at Bort. This is his creation. This is his primitive game that is still developing and weeding out exploits and unfortunately, he's creating them. Until we reach that point where there are no exploits (not happening, this will never be GLB Beta Utopia), either be the dumbass that knows something works and refuses to do it or be the guy who takes advantage of it and wins. A win is a win is a win, boys. The stubborn refusal to take advantage of a play that is working really well doesn't determine a win on a football field. Winning does.

Dante, feel free to address any of my points through rational discourse.

Hey jackass! People pay money to play this game. Why pay more if a team can run a play 88 straight times and win? Thats a major problem and will cause people to quit. How is that for rational discourse you stupid shit. The major concern is to get these glitches fixed as soon as possible or GLB is dead. Do you get it now? I thought not. You wouldn't have posted that absurd statement if you did.

Originally posted by Dante929
Hey jackass! People pay money to play this game. Why pay more if a team can run a play 88 straight times and win? Thats a major problem and will cause people to quit. How is that for rational discourse you stupid shit. The major concern is to get these glitches fixed as soon as possible or GLB is dead. Do you get it now? I thought not. You wouldn't have posted that absurd statement if you did.



Haha so let me get this straight... You give people shit in the regional forum, no wait the regional league forum, no wait THE REGIONAL LEAGUE #6 FORUM (WE A #6) in order to make your point about changes to the game which NO ONE HERE DIRECTLY CONTROLS? hahah Very productive way to spend your time my friend. I think you've pretty clearly illustrated your complete inability to think within the box, let alone outside the box.

We all play money to play our own game our own way. You play money to play your game. If you willingly ignore what works in order to play the game within your parameters, THAT IS NOT OUR CONCERN. PERIOD. What you do, is what YOU do. What others do, IS WHAT THEY DO and those two things are exclusive from you to me to anyone else. If you want to complain about losing because the game does not meet your standards, there are a few simple options for you. Quit playing, play within the way the game works AND NOT HOW YOU WANT IT TO WORK. YOU DO NOT PAY MONEY TO HAVE A GAME COMPLETELY CATERED TO YOUR EVERY WHIM AND BECK AND CALL. Bort does what he can to make the game work as best as he can. Period. At best, stop losing and maybe that'll help and it's up to you to figure out how to make that not happen for yourself. Not my job. Not anyone else's job. It's on you. Why should anyone intentionally use a bad strategy in order to pacify your fucking ignorant demands. Please keep talking shit so I can laugh at your infantile approach to discussion.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=399564&mode=pbp

What do you guys make of this? And be honest now.

EDIT: Why run it only 85% of the time? So you don't get 'crucified' by the rest of the teams in the forums? I mean, it only cost you the game...

I'm not even going to bother to read through your drabble because most of it appears to be either A) bullshit or B) absolute nonsense. However, I will say that blatantly abusing a known bug in the game to get a win and then turning around and acting like what you just did isn't wrong is pretty fucking stupid and just proves that the people defending Dresden's use of this exploit are morally bankrupt individuals. At this point it's water under the bridge, I'll knowingly avoid any teams that any of the GMs/owner of Dresden are involved with when recruiting. I've got a DE on the Piranhas so I'll gladly take him somewhere else next season, thanks for helping me make that decision Cali.

And on a side note, I thought I was an asshole but California makes me look like Mother Teresa, go smoke a doobie bro there's no reason to be so hateful. Oh wait maybe I SHOULD USE CAPS TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR WHAT I'M SAYING. YOU'RE A DICK, CHILL OUT.

Originally posted by Flame
Sorry, I didn't read your post because I'm right and you're wrong, isn't that awesome of me? Totally constructive too.

And for the record, when I type in all caps, it's super important I sure will miss your 1.8 tackles per game and 0.125 sacks per game. Where would we be without you? Honestly, should I apologize? should I ask you to reconsider?

/sarcasm

Look man, I stick up for my teams. I have a sense of pride in our decisions. If we win, good. If we lose, we should've done something else. I'm involved with nearly 30 teams, I assist hundreds of people with builds to the best of my knowledge and I get around 20 PMs a day from people asking for help, asking for my opinion. This isn't to brag, this is just to say I help and have the back of my team and teammates. For you to judge any team because they play the way they want to is hypocritical. Is it fair? No, but we all have the same opportunity to use the full resources of the game. Unless admins intervene, it's not cheating. It's not wrong. This is their game and we play by their rules. To say "you did something wrong" is baseless until I get a blue PM telling us we cheated.

But in all honesty, it's hilarious to me that people question the morals of people playing an internet video game because they take advantage of the game which we all equally can use to our own benefit or detriment. It's like someone who was born in the 1940s who only wants to run the ball and is against the forward pass and he's convinced himself an offense should run through the wishbone and he's getting mad at us for using shotgun 5 WR because it ISN'T THE WAY THE GAME SHOULD BE PLAYED!!! GRRR ANGRY VIDEO GAME RANT!!!

Originally posted by Buer
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=399564&mode=pbp

What do you guys make of this? And be honest now.

EDIT: Why run it only 85% of the time? So you don't get 'crucified' by the rest of the teams in the forums? I mean, it only cost you the game...

A. You started it.
B. They've been doing it all season long... look at the Dublin game (http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=399586 )... so it's not like they snuck up on someone with an exploit.

Originally posted by cherrie
Originally posted by Buer

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=399564&mode=pbp

What do you guys make of this? And be honest now.

EDIT: Why run it only 85% of the time? So you don't get 'crucified' by the rest of the teams in the forums? I mean, it only cost you the game...

A. You started it.
B. They've been doing it all season long... look at the Dublin game (http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=399586 )... so it's not like they snuck up on someone with an exploit.

A. Well, what does it show you when they keep it going? All these guys complaining about it and they use it themselves?
B. Didn't realize that they'd used it before, sorry.

Whatever Cali, I'm done arguing with someone who clearly has his head up his ass. You clearly seem to think that there's nothing wrong with anyone doing this kind of shit. I suppose it's time go delete a few private forums from my list.

Originally posted by Flame
Whatever Cali, I'm done arguing with someone who clearly has his head up his ass. You clearly seem to think that there's nothing wrong with anyone doing this kind of shit. I suppose it's time go delete a few private forums from my list.

It's funny you continue to blame the Addicts for this privately, we as an organization, have nothing to do with this, nor do many of us, not sure if any honestly, utilize exploits.

I personally detest the practice, it's just like playing Madden on rookie or pro level...what's the point? You prove nothing by winning that way, just that you can do what anyone else can.

With that said, it's just like the sandbaggers that take their failed Pro/AAA rosters down to A, I just ignore them anymore for the most part. They're not worth noticing, and if they win by doing their questionable BS, then I make a decision on the game and my investment in it.

This season decided me to cut back nearly 60 players in this coming offseason. If I don't see progress and an increase in my enjoyment S9, I'll kill off more most likely and eventually, who knows, perhaps walk away.

Either way, officially, the GLB Addicts do not condone using glitches or exploits, but we also do NOT control the actions of our affiliates or members. With that said, we will be looking at perhaps some sort of statement that doing things of this nature will jeopardize your membership.

I ask you politely, publicly, Flame, to desist in your slander against the Addicts as a whole.

Originally posted by Flame
Whatever Cali, I'm done arguing with someone who clearly has his head up his ass. You clearly seem to think that there's nothing wrong with anyone doing this kind of shit. I suppose it's time go delete a few private forums from my list.

This is like hating the President (take your pick of which one to hate) and then getting angry at your neighbor for supporting the President when you have no access to the President to make him aware of the problems he's created.

AKA you're being illogical to the other users of the game. As the old saying goes, don't hate the player, hate the game.

I've already made my case to support, why wouldn't I go to the source of the problem after that? I clearly got nowhere with you all so my only recourse is to remove anything I have tying myself to any of you. I have nothing against the addicts as a whole but as I said to GMan via pm that perhaps taking a look at who you associate yourself with is a good idea because I can tell you right now I wouldn't want anything to do with you Cali. You may be some sort of GLB pimp but it doesn't make you any more correct. You keep playing off the fact that you all exploited a glitch(yes I know there are other teams that did this too) by saying that we aren't taking it directly to the source, oh wait...that's because I ALREADY DID. And I know damn well this game isn't about morals but I surely don't align myself with dickheads, I can certainly be irrational and an asshole myself but at least I can admit when I'm wrong.

At this point I'm leaving the Addicts out of this, I've already made my amends with GMan.

You sir however are a grade A fuckjob.

Originally posted by Flame

At this point I'm leaving the Addicts out of this, I've already made my amends with GMan.



Thank you.