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Originally posted by RobertRJS
Originally posted by bubbajwp

I'll simplify it

We usually use a run heavy offense = Limas not good stats

We switch up our ai to a pass heavy offense = Limas has good stats

The games I have already provided in this thread are the evidence. Easy enough

So why should LLS get the trophy if you only stat-pad him vs CPU teams?

LLS: 9 games vs non-CPU

36 rec, 506 yards. Extrapolate that for a 13 game season so far...

52 rec, 731 yards.


Why should LLS get recognized for his play against CPU teams? Those numbers are not bad, but they're not anything to write home about.

The issue really isn't whether LLS is the better receiver, it's that he's stealing a trophy from a far more worthy one...or two....or three.

If that's the case then why should we even consider the receivers for your team? If you pass all the time then it's not really fair to the receivers on teams that don't pass all the time...see how far stupid logic can go if you push it? Should we only consider players that don't play gutted teams? Only receivers that don't play on super pass heavy teams?

He's a very good receiver and we use him to win when the gameplan calls for it...it's as simple as that. No one is saying that you should view his games against gutted teams as amazing but he does perform when we have a pass-centered gameplan and that's what a good receiver does. You can't expect him to have great stats all the time when we are more of a run-focused team than pass.

Both Greats WR's lose points because they had the league MVP throwing to them, Sweed didn't!

Therefore that is why Sweed got selected.

Lets take back Morrisons league MVP, QB of the year awards and then maybe we can look at taking sweeds award away and giving it to one of the greats Wideouts

Is this thread really still going?

With all this going on where is Sweed?
I have been waiting for some sort of response.

I think the point you boys are missing is that Sweed is one funny mother F'er!
To hell with his stats that boy makes me laugh!

What's the over/under on dexter getting banned again?
Anybody know?

Originally posted by blevstone
Originally posted by RobertRJS

Originally posted by bubbajwp


I'll simplify it

We usually use a run heavy offense = Limas not good stats

We switch up our ai to a pass heavy offense = Limas has good stats

The games I have already provided in this thread are the evidence. Easy enough

So why should LLS get the trophy if you only stat-pad him vs CPU teams?

LLS: 9 games vs non-CPU

36 rec, 506 yards. Extrapolate that for a 13 game season so far...

52 rec, 731 yards.


Why should LLS get recognized for his play against CPU teams? Those numbers are not bad, but they're not anything to write home about.

The issue really isn't whether LLS is the better receiver, it's that he's stealing a trophy from a far more worthy one...or two....or three.

If that's the case then why should we even consider the receivers for your team? If you pass all the time then it's not really fair to the receivers on teams that don't pass all the time...see how far stupid logic can go if you push it? Should we only consider players that don't play gutted teams? Only receivers that don't play on super pass heavy teams?

But we don't pass all the time. In fact, go look at the stats in the 'close' games. Weeks 2,3,4,6,7,8 have a combined 36 pass attempts in the 4th quarter. Weeks 1,2,4,5 for the Toros has 39.

If you look at the close games, the per game attempts are not so out of whack to make the distinction you're making. In fact, it's 52 throws to 42 throws.

Now, if the Greats are throwing only 10 more times than the Toros in close games, how is it that ALL THREE RECEIVERS have basically tripled LLS in such games? The "we're more run-based" argument fails.

Your argument sits on top of a house of cards.

Originally posted by
He's a very good receiver and we use him to win when the gameplan calls for it...it's as simple as that. No one is saying that you should view his games against gutted teams as amazing but he does perform when we have a pass-centered gameplan and that's what a good receiver does. You can't expect him to have great stats all the time when we are more of a run-focused team than pass.

The issue is why the Toros are intentionally trying to steal a trophy for LLS. No one is expecting him to have great stats all the time, but he has bad stats against good teams and ok stats versus non-guts overall, yet the toros are stat padding him versus guts.

Originally posted by Lord Thomas Drake
Both Greats WR's lose points because they had the league MVP throwing to them, Sweed didn't!

Therefore that is why Sweed got selected.

Lets take back Morrisons league MVP, QB of the year awards and then maybe we can look at taking sweeds award away and giving it to one of the greats Wideouts

1. There are 3, not 2, Greats WRs that deserve mention,

2. By that insanely flawed logic, we should discount Jerry Rice because of Montana/Young or Harrison cuz of Peyton, etc.

Come back to me when you have an argument built on sound reasoning.

WTF now were narrowing it down to the 4th qtr.

Toro's = Run offense

Greats = Pass offense

RobertRJS = crying because D3 didnt mention his name really who cares?


LOL @ Toro's trying to steal limas a trophie.

By the way I guess you dont watch the replays from any of your games.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=394721
9 rushes, 83 pass attempts


http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=394728
5 rushes, 79 pass attempts

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=394729
14 rushes, 100 pass attempts



http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=394814
Most pass attempts by Spanky Bates in a regular season game 59

and your really going to try and argue with me about stat padding?

Originally posted by bubbajwp
WTF now were narrowing it down to the 4th qtr.

Toro's = Run offense

Greats = Pass offense

RobertRJS = crying because D3 didnt mention his name really who cares?


LOL @ Toro's trying to steal limas a trophie.

1. no, i'm destroying the argument that limus is doing it when you need him.

2. no, was complaining about Limas stealing a trophy, this has nothing to do with LTD. besides, if I was crying, I'd be crying that Jamal Lincoln wasn't named best WR, not my guy. Lincoln > Catcher,

Originally posted by bubbajwp
By the way I guess you dont watch the replays from any of your games.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=394721
9 rushes, 83 pass attempts


http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=394728
5 rushes, 79 pass attempts

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=394729
14 rushes, 100 pass attempts

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=394814
Most pass attempts by Spanky Bates in a regular season game 59

and your really going to try and argue with me about stat padding?



Thanks, what does this have to do with the performance of LLS vs Lincoln, Hands, and Catcher in close games?

Edit: also, we don't change the game plan to pass more. That's our gameplan, with minor tweaks for certain opponents based on our scouting.

The Toros flipped their game plan to force the ball into LLS. The Greats simply had more plays in the games you quote than the other ones. We can't be stat padding is we're doing the same in a close game as a blowout.

Ok so do you understand that when I say he performs when we need him to perform I mean that when we use a pass heavy offense (much like the Greats) he puts up big numbers. Im not talking about 4th downs or 4th qtr's.

Originally posted by bubbajwp
Ok so do you understand that when I say he performs when we need him to perform I mean that when we use a pass heavy offense (much like the Greats) he puts up big numbers. Im not talking about 4th downs or 4th qtr's.

So you don't need him in close games, you only need him against CPU teams. Gotcha!

So threw minor tweaks your Ricky Jordan goes from averaging around 15 carries a game to 8,3,and 0. Those are some pretty powerful minor tweaks.

Originally posted by bubbajwp
So threw minor tweaks your Ricky Jordan goes from averaging around 15 carries a game to 8,3,and 0. Those are some pretty powerful minor tweaks.


They are Threwing tweaks..Where..who..Damnit. I missed it!

I need my fix...

Originally posted by RobertRJS
Originally posted by bubbajwp

Ok so do you understand that when I say he performs when we need him to perform I mean that when we use a pass heavy offense (much like the Greats) he puts up big numbers. Im not talking about 4th downs or 4th qtr's.

So you don't need him in close games, you only need him against CPU teams. Gotcha!

Im not sure when or why you started talking about close games. When we have had 2 all season. If you mean close games as in talent wise then you need to go back and look again. Remember the game links I posted before all of those teams were highly rated and Limas destroyed them. Why? Because we went with a pass offense for those games. AKA when we need him to perform (high passing offense like the greats) he performs. Also I believe the amount off pass attempts has a little bit to do with the performance of a WR. I could be wrong. Not likely for a WR to have good stats when he is thrown to 3 times because the offense being used is a run first offense.