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jason8998
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Originally posted by thewiz1
These power rankings are hiliarious. If two teams are unbeaten, how can one team be ranked higher than the other? What makes this comical is that the GM of one unbeaten team Dungeoneers started these power rankings.

Hey Reffi, I understand your with your team all the way. However, based on your last performance, your team has many flaws. Its pretty sad when 7Gms almost lose to a team with a 9-2 record.

Wouldn't you agree?


Are you retarded? Do you not understand the difference between power rankings and league standings?


What team is 9-2? Again, are you an idiot?

Just make your own damn power rankings and stop your fucking crying.
 
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Originally posted by Enkidu98
Originally posted by thewiz1

These power rankings are hiliarious. If two teams are unbeaten, how can one team be ranked higher than the other? What makes this comical is that the GM of one unbeaten team Dungeoneers started these power rankings.

Hey Reffi, I understand your with your team all the way. However, based on your last performance, your team has many flaws. Its pretty sad when 7Gms almost lose to a team with a 9-2 record.

Wouldn't you agree?


your a moron!

Seriously. If the 11th game of the season is being played tomorrow, how would someone have a 9-2 record? I am thinking you have difficulties with Math. If you are basing this on our 'last performance' we were playing a team with a 7-2 record. A team I might say was excellently coached and whose voice on these boards has been gracious and humorous and is noted as one of the 'teams to beat' as the season progresses into the playoffs as they are doing quite well.

Power Rankings are based (in this case) in a publicly available formula that takes the scores from the preceding games. The formula Reffi is using is the one that was being used in another Conference on these boards who was posting power rankings every week while ours had none.

You can see the formula at http://www.justlacrosse.com/omffl/powerrating.htm.

I'll post it up though, as I think some of these folks who aren't from the St. Petersburg Piranhas might actually understand the math while you will just have to be contented in viewing something complicated and confusing.

(avg score x 6) + [(high score + low score) x 2] +[ (winning % x 200) x 2]
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10

To try to help you understand this.. Everything above the dashed line is calculated and then you take the results and divide them by 10. I know that Math is not your strong point (see above) but hopefully you can muddle through it.

This creates a 'Power Ranking' number.

It is, purely by the math, that the Dungeoneers are on the 'top' of the Power Rankings and your team, is not. It has nothing to do with Reffi trying to pimp his team and at the same time insult your team.

I'm not sure what planet you come from when a 17 point win is 'almost losing' to another team. But, since this is now the criteria, let us loot at your schedule.

Your first game you almost lost to a 5-5 team.
Your 5th game you almost lost to a 7-3 team.
Your 6th Game, you almost lost to a 7-3 team.

Etc.

You've allowed 54 points, While we have allowed 13. Clearly you are superior (...at giving up points to 'inferior' teams).

Lastly, we have 7 GM's because we are able to form more lasting friendships and enjoy each others company better and have established trust and camaraderie over the years so found ourselves able to manage one person owning the team, one person playing the role of a GM, An Offensive Coordinator, a Defensive Coordinator and a Special Teams coordinator. On top of this, we have other players who were curious to see the way the system works, and we were not so paranoid and inspired by Bellicheat so allowed other people GM powers so they could see the systems, manage our message boards, etc.

All in all, it appears the Power Rankings, again based purely on math, seem to have a done a great job measuring the quality of the teams in our two conferences.

While you have 'almost lost' to teams with a combined record of 19-11 (63% combined winning percentage for your opponents in your 'almost lost' games) our two games with scores you have equated to 'Almost Losing' were against the Second Best team in our conference and a very strong team whose records are 16-4 (An 80% winning percentage).

Add to this, we did this without bringing 'pro' team players over partially through the season, and instead have been playing with our 'backups' starting some games so our friends can get playing time and experience and doing our best to make sure the other people in our conference are enjoying the game as much as we are by being amiable and friendly on the boards.

Clearly, we're just trying to diminish your accomplishments and you are vastly superior in every way. I am sure we are sorry for doubting this, and attempting to use some neutral form of statistical comparison to generate the power rankings.

I am sure you are welcome to generate your own formula and present an alternative and 'more accurate' measure of the team rankings.

-G

PS - Part of this post is an intentional 'inside joke' to our Dungeoneers.


Long and well put!

Do your own damn rankings! Christ stop bitching about Power Rankings, they are just RANKINGS, it doesn't mean because we are #1 we will roll you in playoffs.
 
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Originally posted by jason8998
Originally posted by thewiz1

These power rankings are hiliarious. If two teams are unbeaten, how can one team be ranked higher than the other? What makes this comical is that the GM of one unbeaten team Dungeoneers started these power rankings.

Hey Reffi, I understand your with your team all the way. However, based on your last performance, your team has many flaws. Its pretty sad when 7Gms almost lose to a team with a 9-2 record.

Wouldn't you agree?


Are you retarded? Do you not understand the difference between power rankings and league standings?


What team is 9-2? Again, are you an idiot?

Just make your own damn power rankings and stop your fucking crying.


Short and sweet and what I am used too from jason!
 
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Originally posted by ReFFi
Originally posted by Enkidu98

Originally posted by thewiz1


These power rankings are hiliarious. If two teams are unbeaten, how can one team be ranked higher than the other? What makes this comical is that the GM of one unbeaten team Dungeoneers started these power rankings.

Hey Reffi, I understand your with your team all the way. However, based on
your last performance, your team has many flaws. Its pretty sad when 7Gms almost lose to a team with a 9-2 record.

Wouldn't you agree?


your a moron!


Your calculations are not correct. Heres why, the Pirranhas have different players on their roster now as many of other teams. Im glad to see you have simple math skills. Unless everyone played today, there is no way you can actually prove that those calculations are accurate at all.

Seriously. If the 11th game of the season is being played tomorrow, how would someone have a 9-2 record? I am thinking you have difficulties with Math. If you are basing this on our 'last performance' we were playing a team with a 7-2 record. A team I might say was excellently coached and whose voice on these boards has been gracious and humorous and is noted as one of the 'teams to beat' as the season progresses into the playoffs as they are doing quite well.

Power Rankings are based (in this case) in a publicly available formula that takes the scores from the preceding games. The formula Reffi is using is the one that was being used in another Conference on these boards who was posting power rankings every week while ours had none.

You can see the formula at http://www.justlacrosse.com/omffl/powerrating.htm.

I'll post it up though, as I think some of these folks who aren't from the St. Petersburg Piranhas might actually understand the math while you will just have to be contented in viewing something complicated and confusing.

(avg score x 6) + [(high score + low score) x 2] +[ (winning % x 200) x 2]
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
10

To try to help you understand this.. Everything above the dashed line is calculated and then you take the results and divide them by 10. I know that Math is not your strong point (see above) but hopefully you can muddle through it.

This creates a 'Power Ranking' number.

It is, purely by the math, that the Dungeoneers are on the 'top' of the Power Rankings and your team, is not. It has nothing to do with Reffi trying to pimp his team and at the same time insult your team.

I'm not sure what planet you come from when a 17 point win is 'almost losing' to another team. But, since this is now the criteria, let us loot at your schedule.

Your first game you almost lost to a 5-5 team.
Your 5th game you almost lost to a 7-3 team.
Your 6th Game, you almost lost to a 7-3 team.

Etc.

You've allowed 54 points, While we have allowed 13. Clearly you are superior (...at giving up points to 'inferior' teams).

Lastly, we have 7 GM's because we are able to form more lasting friendships and enjoy each others company better and have established trust and camaraderie over the years so found ourselves able to manage one person owning the team, one person playing the role of a GM, An Offensive Coordinator, a Defensive Coordinator and a Special Teams coordinator. On top of this, we have other players who were curious to see the way the system works, and we were not so paranoid and inspired by Bellicheat so allowed other people GM powers so they could see the systems, manage our message boards, etc.

All in all, it appears the Power Rankings, again based purely on math, seem to have a done a great job measuring the quality of the teams in our two conferences.

While you have 'almost lost' to teams with a combined record of 19-11 (63% combined winning percentage for your opponents in your 'almost lost' games) our two games with scores you have equated to 'Almost Losing' were against the Second Best team in our conference and a very strong team whose records are 16-4 (An 80% winning percentage).

Add to this, we did this without bringing 'pro' team players over partially through the season, and instead have been playing with our 'backups' starting some games so our friends can get playing time and experience and doing our best to make sure the other people in our conference are enjoying the game as much as we are by being amiable and friendly on the boards.

Clearly, we're just trying to diminish your accomplishments and you are vastly superior in every way. I am sure we are sorry for doubting this, and attempting to use some neutral form of statistical comparison to generate the power rankings.

I am sure you are welcome to generate your own formula and present an alternative and 'more accurate' measure of the team rankings.

-G

PS - Part of this post is an intentional 'inside joke' to our Dungeoneers.


Long and well put!

Do your own damn rankings! Christ stop bitching about Power Rankings, they are just RANKINGS, it doesn't mean because we are #1 we will roll you in playoffs.




Hey Reffi, your calculations are incorrect and heres why. First off, your calculations are based off of previous games when different players were on different teams. Im glad you have aquired basic math skills. However, unless you
started your calculations today, your power rankings will always be incorrect.
Can you back that up? You cant tell me those numbers are the same regardless of our team acquirring newer players.

Your calculations remind me of cbs sportsline fantasy player draft analysis. Every year there calculations are wrong.
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you know, i was looking forward to playing the dungeoneers again next year (no offence meant, the pirahnas seemed to have higher levels, not that that cant be overcome but a semi-decent gameplan by them would make it difficult) but it looks like thats not gonna happen... :/
 
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Why is this such a big deal for you? Would you stop whining if we retitled the thread "historical performance rankings"? You're acting as if Reffi started a thread called "Dungeoneers are better than the Piranhas." He didn't. Relax.
 
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@The Wiz

Your A Moron!
 
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Originally posted by Veracocha
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Your A Moron!


Hows come you are not one of their top 7 GMS?
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i like the perci guys, they have been humble and polite in spite of annihilating 90% of the conference and they can take a joke.
 
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I like the perci guys too until we play them in the championship. lol.. I see both sides of the issue. TheWIz is a competitor at heart and will never back down. You guys have a great team but in my opinion you are also in a weaker conference. that is just my opinion and also power rankings done by math can only count for so much. i know the Wiz loves the Pats but before the playoffs there was no team anywhere near them in power ranking but who won the superbowl. So yes i do believe the Piranhas are the strongest team in the league and that will be proven shortly. The other thing is, is when we enter a game that we feel is going to be a pretty easy victory we dont always put forth the best game plan, that is when we try different things to see what happens. you may call that a gamble since some of the outcomes dont end up in huge victories but they are still victories nonetheless. So im sure you will keep posting power rankings along as you are on top. but we will post the champions thread after we win that. you can have your glory for now. I actually do like the fact you take time away from your team to calculate all these and make alot of posts. it just gives me more time to dissect your guys game plans and see that they havent changed much from week to week but if i was a team who was 10-0 and blowing every team out why would i change anything or try something different. oh yeah cause a team did that last year and they settled for second. Wish everyone good luck on the year
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Pie > Math

Therefore, I request that all future power rankings be done in pie chart form. Thank you.
 
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Originally posted by thewiz
...You cant tell me those numbers are the same regardless of our team acquirring newer players...


lol..."acquiring?" The story keeps evolving everytime.

You guys play the hard luck our owner abandoned us "wah" doesn't care about us "wah" line...so we "consolidated" ourselves into this rag tag bunch of level 13 and 16 guys so we can be something in the AA leagues and now yer crying about Power Rankings?? What do you want a coaches poll?

 
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Originally posted by indymajor
...So im sure you will keep posting power rankings along as you are on top....


Don't make assumptions.

Reffi volunteered to do the power rankings when nobody else stepped up.
 
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i guess if i got murdered 68-0 i would be on there side also jugheadasfn. as far as the owner abandoned us wah stuff, i have never said anything about that. we only acquired three people from that ordeal. we have been requiting alot. i did purchase the team at the beginning of the season and we had a pretty low level team. i had to sign as many high level players as i could and then i spend alot of my own money to create depth. most of all my guys back up other owners starters. the team that the three players came from is still strong and they are in 4th place right now. so its not like we took there whole team and added to ours. and not all the players who are on the Perci team started there either. all there high level guys were created during the first season around day 20 to 25. and at one point in this season there were only 8 level 13 players in zeta and 7 of them played for the Perci squad. thats why i said they have the weaker conference. and maybe you missed the part were i said i liked the fact that he does the power rankings it gets my guys fired up. consolidated lol... three guys=consolidated. try recruiting and not settling for what you are and were your at but try striving to be better in everything you do. the dictionary is the only place SUCCESS comes before WORK just get your game up in time for the play offs, this time when you play Perci at least show up
 
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Originally posted by indymajor
I like the perci guys too until we play them in the championship. lol..
I see both sides of the issue. TheWIz is a competitor at heart and will
never back down. You guys have a great team but in my opinion you are
also in a weaker conference. that is just my opinion and also power
rankings done by math can only count for so much. i know the Wiz loves
the Pats but before the playoffs there was no team anywhere near them
in power ranking but who won the superbowl. So yes i do believe the
Piranhas are the strongest team in the league and that will be proven
shortly. The other thing is, is when we enter a game that we feel is
going to be a pretty easy victory we dont always put forth the best
game plan, that is when we try different things to see what happens.
you may call that a gamble since some of the outcomes dont end up in
huge victories but they are still victories nonetheless. So im sure you
will keep posting power rankings along as you are on top. but we will
post the champions thread after we win that. you can have your glory
for now. I actually do like the fact you take time away from your team
to calculate all these and make alot of posts. it just gives me more
time to dissect your guys game plans and see that they havent changed
much from week to week but if i was a team who was 10-0 and blowing
every team out why would i change anything or try something different.
oh yeah cause a team did that last year and they settled for second.
Wish everyone good luck on the year


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i guess if i got murdered 68-0 i would be on there side also jugheadasfn. as far as the owner abandoned us wah stuff, i have never said anything about that. we only acquired three people from that ordeal. we have been requiting alot. i did purchase the team at the beginning of the season and we had a pretty low level team. i had to sign as many high level players as i could and then i spend alot of my own money to create depth. most of all my guys back up other owners starters. the team that the three players came from is still strong and they are in 4th place right now. so its not like we took there whole team and added to ours. and not all the players who are on the Perci team started there either. all there high level guys were created during the first season around day 20 to 25. and at one point in this season there were only 8 level 13 players in zeta and 7 of them played for the Perci squad. thats why i said they have the weaker conference. and maybe you missed the part were i said i liked the fact that he does the power rankings it gets my guys fired up. consolidated lol... three guys=consolidated. try recruiting and not settling for what you are and were your at but try striving to be better in everything you do. the dictionary is the only place SUCCESS comes before WORK just get your game up in time for the play offs, this time when you play Perci at least show up


You act like we don't play backups and are trying to smash people into the ground? Are you high or just didn't get all your facts straight. Infact we had a couple close games.

Secondly, we came into this league and said hey we are a bunch of friends from another time. We also couldn't buy a team last year or we would have been on the same team last year. I don't see what this argument is for.

Thirdly, the power rankings get your guys fired up? Are you blind? They are trashing my power ranking threads, and making me out like I'm doing this because we are first place. I would this if we were in last place. No one was doing, and I stepped up to the plate.

Lastly, it really only seems to be some bad apples with the Piranha's so far that have done the most trash talking and overall being negative on these boards. Everyone else has been light-hearted and have been joking around.

So with that, get some facts straight first before you start running your mouth about things you obviously haven't read up on. I'll let it go this time.

Btw levels <> better teams. They will to a degree because you will have more points to spend, but honestly, I'd rather have people 2 - 3 levels lower and let them have better builds. *shrugs*
 
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