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mphill2004 (3:19:25 PM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6zdhHLvT7k
mphill2004 (3:19:32 PM): luv song so much cant help it :[
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mphill2004 (3:19:32 PM): luv song so much cant help it :[
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Originally posted by faedie
For 7 seasons that was the best way to build a DE (and probably still is, it's yet to be seen). My post had nothing to do with my DE. Don't be dumb.
I was more referring to DTs/NTs going up against significantly higher str guards/centers and the exponentially increased amount of fumbles from high str tacklers, aka the center who forced a fumble on a KR in our last game who I'm sure hasn't put anything in tackling (I'm hoping... for his sake).
I didn't expect to win that game, at all. But I also didn't expect what happened since we had never gone up against that high of a level discrepancy since the str changes. Last season we would have had a chance in this game, despite being outleveled by about 8 levels across the board. This season we didn't because the middle of our d-line(and most other positions) don't have the 40 SPs and 2 sets of equipment upgrades which if put in as 8 str, is equivalent to another 40 SPs they had over us.
Pretty much take what happened to you against NBK in that scrimmage and add 8 levels to the even-leveled guard that got 25 pancakes on you guys.
This right here is what kills me!!! People bitching and crying cause their DL is getting smacked around cause they went all speed/agility. Let's play a game.....lets look at the NFL Combine this year. http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#tp-tab-set-1:tp-grid-container-bench-press
All the top DL did the same if not MORE reps on the bench press than the OL. GLB = more than the first soft cap in str
Plus, you add in the 40-yard dash, 3 cone drill and 20-yard shuttle the DL has better numbers.
If GLB is going more to the realist (I hope so!) then all Defensive guys have to be more balanced. Most Defensive guys need Speed/Agility//Strength/Vision/Tackling/Confidence/Jumping. Yea, it sucks that now you (actually all of us) have to add skills points to more than 2 Attributes, but you will be alright. IMO I think it is best in the long run, maybe a better solution for Bort is to extend players life to 12 season instead of 10?
For 7 seasons that was the best way to build a DE (and probably still is, it's yet to be seen). My post had nothing to do with my DE. Don't be dumb.
I was more referring to DTs/NTs going up against significantly higher str guards/centers and the exponentially increased amount of fumbles from high str tacklers, aka the center who forced a fumble on a KR in our last game who I'm sure hasn't put anything in tackling (I'm hoping... for his sake).
I didn't expect to win that game, at all. But I also didn't expect what happened since we had never gone up against that high of a level discrepancy since the str changes. Last season we would have had a chance in this game, despite being outleveled by about 8 levels across the board. This season we didn't because the middle of our d-line(and most other positions) don't have the 40 SPs and 2 sets of equipment upgrades which if put in as 8 str, is equivalent to another 40 SPs they had over us.
Pretty much take what happened to you against NBK in that scrimmage and add 8 levels to the even-leveled guard that got 25 pancakes on you guys.
This right here is what kills me!!! People bitching and crying cause their DL is getting smacked around cause they went all speed/agility. Let's play a game.....lets look at the NFL Combine this year. http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#tp-tab-set-1:tp-grid-container-bench-press
All the top DL did the same if not MORE reps on the bench press than the OL. GLB = more than the first soft cap in str
Plus, you add in the 40-yard dash, 3 cone drill and 20-yard shuttle the DL has better numbers.
If GLB is going more to the realist (I hope so!) then all Defensive guys have to be more balanced. Most Defensive guys need Speed/Agility//Strength/Vision/Tackling/Confidence/Jumping. Yea, it sucks that now you (actually all of us) have to add skills points to more than 2 Attributes, but you will be alright. IMO I think it is best in the long run, maybe a better solution for Bort is to extend players life to 12 season instead of 10?
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Originally posted by faedie
I was more referring to DTs/NTs going up against significantly higher str guards/centers and the exponentially increased amount of fumbles from high str tacklers, aka the center who forced a fumble on a KR in our last game who I'm sure hasn't put anything in tackling (I'm hoping... for his sake).
I'm not going to look at the gamefilm, but what level was the center? If he's a high level maybe his agent has gotten bored and started training his tackling up, though I'm sure it's still not above 35.
Now, if we assume that the center had 100+ strength, and a MAXIMUM of 35 tackling, what can we assume about Bort's Force Fumble Equation? That its succesful activation is more dependent on strength than tackling, and certainly moreso than the strength:tackling ratio that received so much forum time back in season 4 (i think).
p.s.-i was just kidding about the DE speed building. i know it was the best way to build a DE for the past few seasons, i'm just jealous that i never committed to building one to rack up the kind of sack numbers you guys have gotten away with.
I was more referring to DTs/NTs going up against significantly higher str guards/centers and the exponentially increased amount of fumbles from high str tacklers, aka the center who forced a fumble on a KR in our last game who I'm sure hasn't put anything in tackling (I'm hoping... for his sake).
I'm not going to look at the gamefilm, but what level was the center? If he's a high level maybe his agent has gotten bored and started training his tackling up, though I'm sure it's still not above 35.
Now, if we assume that the center had 100+ strength, and a MAXIMUM of 35 tackling, what can we assume about Bort's Force Fumble Equation? That its succesful activation is more dependent on strength than tackling, and certainly moreso than the strength:tackling ratio that received so much forum time back in season 4 (i think).
p.s.-i was just kidding about the DE speed building. i know it was the best way to build a DE for the past few seasons, i'm just jealous that i never committed to building one to rack up the kind of sack numbers you guys have gotten away with.
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Originally posted by Ts-Rock
This right here is what kills me!!! People bitching and crying cause their DL is getting smacked around cause they went all speed/agility. Let's play a game.....lets look at the NFL Combine this year. http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#tp-tab-set-1:tp-grid-container-bench-press
All the top DL did the same if not MORE reps on the bench press than the OL. GLB = more than the first soft cap in str
Plus, you add in the 40-yard dash, 3 cone drill and 20-yard shuttle the DL has better numbers.
If GLB is going more to the realist (I hope so!) then all Defensive guys have to be more balanced. Most Defensive guys need Speed/Agility//Strength/Vision/Tackling/Confidence/Jumping. Yea, it sucks that now you (actually all of us) have to add skills points to more than 2 Attributes, but you will be alright. IMO I think it is best in the long run, maybe a better solution for Bort is to extend players life to 12 season instead of 10?
uh, without giving up too much of our build info, the NTs that their center got 85 pancakes against averaged around 100 strength. hardly neglected. they are actually very balanced builds.
stop assuming stupid crap. two of their guys combined for 64 pancakes against you last season. the vikings got 173 pancakes against a kobenhaven team that nearly matched them in levels. i don't think that giving up 201 against them is a sign of horrible builds given the fact that kobenhaven's defense outlevels ours by 8.2 levels on average.
you don't think 173 pancakes against an almost equal level team is a bit ridiculous?
This right here is what kills me!!! People bitching and crying cause their DL is getting smacked around cause they went all speed/agility. Let's play a game.....lets look at the NFL Combine this year. http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#tp-tab-set-1:tp-grid-container-bench-press
All the top DL did the same if not MORE reps on the bench press than the OL. GLB = more than the first soft cap in str
Plus, you add in the 40-yard dash, 3 cone drill and 20-yard shuttle the DL has better numbers.
If GLB is going more to the realist (I hope so!) then all Defensive guys have to be more balanced. Most Defensive guys need Speed/Agility//Strength/Vision/Tackling/Confidence/Jumping. Yea, it sucks that now you (actually all of us) have to add skills points to more than 2 Attributes, but you will be alright. IMO I think it is best in the long run, maybe a better solution for Bort is to extend players life to 12 season instead of 10?
uh, without giving up too much of our build info, the NTs that their center got 85 pancakes against averaged around 100 strength. hardly neglected. they are actually very balanced builds.
stop assuming stupid crap. two of their guys combined for 64 pancakes against you last season. the vikings got 173 pancakes against a kobenhaven team that nearly matched them in levels. i don't think that giving up 201 against them is a sign of horrible builds given the fact that kobenhaven's defense outlevels ours by 8.2 levels on average.
you don't think 173 pancakes against an almost equal level team is a bit ridiculous?
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I think you need to quit whining, it's the same for everyone. You lost, get over it
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Originally posted by OchO_CinCo
I think you need to quit whining, it's the same for everyone. You lost, get over it
i'm not whining DuMbAsS, i'm correcting the guy that made the retarded assumption that our DL is all agi/speed
alternating caps AND a raptors fan? god damn.
I think you need to quit whining, it's the same for everyone. You lost, get over it
i'm not whining DuMbAsS, i'm correcting the guy that made the retarded assumption that our DL is all agi/speed
alternating caps AND a raptors fan? god damn.
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Originally posted by OchO_CinCo
I think you need to quit whining, it's the same for everyone. You lost, get over it
this guy speaks the truth
I think you need to quit whining, it's the same for everyone. You lost, get over it
this guy speaks the truth
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Originally posted by Lambda
i'm not whining DuMbAsS, i'm correcting the guy that made the retarded assumption that our DL is all agi/speed
alternating caps AND a raptors fan? god damn.
RaPtOrS FaNs > BaNdWaGgOnErS AnYdAy 
i'm not whining DuMbAsS, i'm correcting the guy that made the retarded assumption that our DL is all agi/speed
alternating caps AND a raptors fan? god damn.
RaPtOrS FaNs > BaNdWaGgOnErS AnYdAy
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nice, now AlTeRnAtInG CaPz BoI has a friend, guy that was off by 52 in estimating our DL's strength. a formidable brain trust.
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riding that bobcats bandwagon hardcore over here.
it's gonna suck in 2010 when your only allstar leaves because your idiot fans boo him for not somehow leading your horrible team to 60 wins. you'll be stuck with marion who i'm sure you will re-sign to a deal 3-5x larger than he's worth and jose "lockdown D" calderon who makes steve nash look like rajon rondo. and joey graham i guess, lol.
it's gonna suck in 2010 when your only allstar leaves because your idiot fans boo him for not somehow leading your horrible team to 60 wins. you'll be stuck with marion who i'm sure you will re-sign to a deal 3-5x larger than he's worth and jose "lockdown D" calderon who makes steve nash look like rajon rondo. and joey graham i guess, lol.
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Originally posted by Lambda
nice, now AlTeRnAtInG CaPz BoI has a friend, guy that was off by 52 in estimating our DL's strength. a formidable brain trust.
lol...my apologies Lamba, I just re-read the post I quoted and I thought faedie said your guys had only 40 skill pts in str. I was wondering what you were referring to, so I re-read my post and caught MY mistake. Once again....my apologies!
nice, now AlTeRnAtInG CaPz BoI has a friend, guy that was off by 52 in estimating our DL's strength. a formidable brain trust.
lol...my apologies Lamba, I just re-read the post I quoted and I thought faedie said your guys had only 40 skill pts in str. I was wondering what you were referring to, so I re-read my post and caught MY mistake. Once again....my apologies!
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