OK I will add something that says I am not sure about the Break Through.
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Originally posted by tpaterniti
OK I will add something that says I am not sure about the Break Through.
It does only work on rushing plays.
Originally posted by Bort
Break Through (DT): This ability increases the D-lineman’s ability to break through double-teams. This ability works best on D-linemen with very high Strength and Agility. It provides a bonus to each attribute and also a chance to break two blocks simultaneously whereas you would normally have to break one block, then the next one. This ability is only active on rushing plays.
OK I will add something that says I am not sure about the Break Through.
It does only work on rushing plays.
Originally posted by Bort
Break Through (DT): This ability increases the D-lineman’s ability to break through double-teams. This ability works best on D-linemen with very high Strength and Agility. It provides a bonus to each attribute and also a chance to break two blocks simultaneously whereas you would normally have to break one block, then the next one. This ability is only active on rushing plays.
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Originally posted by tpaterniti
OK I will add something that says I am not sure about the Break Through.
Well either high str is winning this season over Agl or Break Through is helping. Maybe it only works on runs, but the boost to str and agl are always working.
OK I will add something that says I am not sure about the Break Through.
Well either high str is winning this season over Agl or Break Through is helping. Maybe it only works on runs, but the boost to str and agl are always working.
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Originally posted by Meatdawg
Originally posted by tpaterniti
OK I will add something that says I am not sure about the Break Through.
Well either high str is winning this season over Agl or Break Through is helping. Maybe it only works on runs, but the boost to str and agl are always working.
No, the WHOLE SA only works on rushing plays, so that boost would not be present on pass plays.
Originally posted by tpaterniti
OK I will add something that says I am not sure about the Break Through.
Well either high str is winning this season over Agl or Break Through is helping. Maybe it only works on runs, but the boost to str and agl are always working.
No, the WHOLE SA only works on rushing plays, so that boost would not be present on pass plays.
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Originally posted by DL24
Originally posted by tpaterniti
OK I will add something that says I am not sure about the Break Through.
It does only work on rushing plays.
Originally posted by Bort
Break Through (DT): This ability increases the D-lineman’s ability to break through double-teams. This ability works best on D-linemen with very high Strength and Agility. It provides a bonus to each attribute and also a chance to break two blocks simultaneously whereas you would normally have to break one block, then the next one. This ability is only active on rushing plays.
Yeah i have known that for a long time. Bort has never been known to be wrong, or make mistakes though....
Originally posted by tpaterniti
OK I will add something that says I am not sure about the Break Through.
It does only work on rushing plays.
Originally posted by Bort
Break Through (DT): This ability increases the D-lineman’s ability to break through double-teams. This ability works best on D-linemen with very high Strength and Agility. It provides a bonus to each attribute and also a chance to break two blocks simultaneously whereas you would normally have to break one block, then the next one. This ability is only active on rushing plays.
Yeah i have known that for a long time. Bort has never been known to be wrong, or make mistakes though....
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Originally posted by Meatdawg
Originally posted by DL24
Originally posted by tpaterniti
OK I will add something that says I am not sure about the Break Through.
It does only work on rushing plays.
Originally posted by Bort
Break Through (DT): This ability increases the D-lineman’s ability to break through double-teams. This ability works best on D-linemen with very high Strength and Agility. It provides a bonus to each attribute and also a chance to break two blocks simultaneously whereas you would normally have to break one block, then the next one. This ability is only active on rushing plays.
Yeah i have known that for a long time. Bort has never been known to be wrong, or make mistakes though....
Originally posted by Meatdawg
You say Break Thru only works on run plays, yet both your NT's have sacks, while your DT's have none. I have always believed it works on pass plays as well, and a few key season 1 sack leaders have told me this as well.
Your two statements in bold contradict each other...
w/e this thread shouldn't be used for petty disputes. Keep up the good work tpat, but you may want to add a disclaimer about quoting things
Originally posted by DL24
Originally posted by tpaterniti
OK I will add something that says I am not sure about the Break Through.
It does only work on rushing plays.
Originally posted by Bort
Break Through (DT): This ability increases the D-lineman’s ability to break through double-teams. This ability works best on D-linemen with very high Strength and Agility. It provides a bonus to each attribute and also a chance to break two blocks simultaneously whereas you would normally have to break one block, then the next one. This ability is only active on rushing plays.
Yeah i have known that for a long time. Bort has never been known to be wrong, or make mistakes though....
Originally posted by Meatdawg
You say Break Thru only works on run plays, yet both your NT's have sacks, while your DT's have none. I have always believed it works on pass plays as well, and a few key season 1 sack leaders have told me this as well.
Your two statements in bold contradict each other...
w/e this thread shouldn't be used for petty disputes. Keep up the good work tpat, but you may want to add a disclaimer about quoting things
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I cant know that bort posted that a while ago and still think it has always worked on pass plays???
Once he posted that I reconfirmed my findings and still believe it to work on pass plays. I have seen about 20 top builds at numerous times and noted the things in common. Pm'd various owners and discussed Borts very words you quoted. One of the main things that kept popping up was sack leaders had Break through.
I am not trying to start a argument, and i am glad mods dismiss different opinions as petty disputes. Where did I ever come off as petty?
Again, Bort has been wrong before, what's to say he isnt wrong this time too? Im just putting it out there for others to think about.
Once he posted that I reconfirmed my findings and still believe it to work on pass plays. I have seen about 20 top builds at numerous times and noted the things in common. Pm'd various owners and discussed Borts very words you quoted. One of the main things that kept popping up was sack leaders had Break through.
I am not trying to start a argument, and i am glad mods dismiss different opinions as petty disputes. Where did I ever come off as petty?
Again, Bort has been wrong before, what's to say he isnt wrong this time too? Im just putting it out there for others to think about.
I wrote this, not bort:
Originally posted by Bort
Break Through (DT): This ability increases the D-lineman’s ability to break through double-teams. This ability works best on D-linemen with very high Strength and Agility. It provides a bonus to each attribute and also a chance to break two blocks simultaneously whereas you would normally have to break one block, then the next one. This ability is only active on rushing plays.
You can find it here: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2662504
Here is all I can find on what Bort has said about Break Through:
Originally posted by Bort
Breakthrough doesn't do anything extra animation wise. It gives you a bonus and the chance to break both blocks at the same time, whereas without it you'd have to break one and then the other.
Originally posted by bort
Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by Bort
Breakthrough doesn't do anything extra animation wise. It gives you a bonus and the chance to break both blocks at the same time, whereas without it you'd have to break one and then the other.
Had a long post, but my browser commited die so a brief post...
I've seen DE's break double-teams at the same time...however, DE's do not have the Break Through SA. Do players have a natural chance to break both?
Sure. Break through makes it more likely.
Very inconclusive. I can't remember why I thought it only worked on rushing plays. Sometimes I know things but I can't find them when I to back to look, but sometimes I am mistaken. Very rarely, though. I have a very good memory.
Originally posted by Bort
Break Through (DT): This ability increases the D-lineman’s ability to break through double-teams. This ability works best on D-linemen with very high Strength and Agility. It provides a bonus to each attribute and also a chance to break two blocks simultaneously whereas you would normally have to break one block, then the next one. This ability is only active on rushing plays.
You can find it here: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2662504
Here is all I can find on what Bort has said about Break Through:
Originally posted by Bort
Breakthrough doesn't do anything extra animation wise. It gives you a bonus and the chance to break both blocks at the same time, whereas without it you'd have to break one and then the other.
Originally posted by bort
Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by Bort
Breakthrough doesn't do anything extra animation wise. It gives you a bonus and the chance to break both blocks at the same time, whereas without it you'd have to break one and then the other.
Had a long post, but my browser commited die so a brief post...
I've seen DE's break double-teams at the same time...however, DE's do not have the Break Through SA. Do players have a natural chance to break both?
Sure. Break through makes it more likely.
Very inconclusive. I can't remember why I thought it only worked on rushing plays. Sometimes I know things but I can't find them when I to back to look, but sometimes I am mistaken. Very rarely, though. I have a very good memory.
Edited by tpaterniti on Sep 6, 2009 20:34:23
Meatdawg
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Originally posted by tpaterniti
Very inconclusive. I can't remember why I thought it only worked on rushing plays. Sometimes I know things but I can't find them when I to back to look, but sometimes I am mistaken. Very rarely, though. I have a very good memory.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=716185&pbp_id=3603290
This is your NT.
To me it appears he is getting a boost from Break Through here on a pass play. However, my guy has done thing on occasion with 0 break through so I dont know.
I still feel it gives a boost regardless of pass or run, but people will just have to decide for themselves if they think it works or doesn't.
Very inconclusive. I can't remember why I thought it only worked on rushing plays. Sometimes I know things but I can't find them when I to back to look, but sometimes I am mistaken. Very rarely, though. I have a very good memory.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=716185&pbp_id=3603290
This is your NT.
To me it appears he is getting a boost from Break Through here on a pass play. However, my guy has done thing on occasion with 0 break through so I dont know.
I still feel it gives a boost regardless of pass or run, but people will just have to decide for themselves if they think it works or doesn't.
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How about this one?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=716601&pbp_id=11402593
Or this one?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=716598&pbp_id=8944630
My guy, but has 0 in break through. (I do want to test the idea though)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=716601&pbp_id=11402593
Or this one?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=716598&pbp_id=8944630
My guy, but has 0 in break through. (I do want to test the idea though)
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Originally posted by tpaterniti
I don't know. He pancakes those guys in sequence. C, then RG, then HB.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=715965&pbp_id=8773531
That was the only other close one I could find. Still inconclusive :/
I don't know. He pancakes those guys in sequence. C, then RG, then HB.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=715965&pbp_id=8773531
That was the only other close one I could find. Still inconclusive :/
You have to go tick by tick. On a true break through both dots should shring on exactly the same tick.
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