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Originally posted by cptafw163


But that means that the guy will be lower leveled by the time they start to decline...so the slow builds have a shorter shelf life.

By doing super slow, it makes a GREAT team after about 7 seasons, but they will never reach the levels that a regular "slow build" can reach by the 10th season.

Basically you sacrifice a whole season, lose about 6 levels and by the time you add all those saved XP, you are still 6 levels and 30 SP behind the guys who did it normally in the same timeframe.

So i just don;t get why its done so much.


This is the common misconception a lot of people are having a hard time dealing with.

Why stop with one guy? say I have a super slow built C.B. dominating for 7 seasons? the decline isn't really going to be as fast as people think.

then to top it off I have another super slow build right behind him ready to take over.

If you space your super slow build guys every 2 or 3 seasons, you will have endless premium built replacements.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by cptafw163



But that means that the guy will be lower leveled by the time they start to decline...so the slow builds have a shorter shelf life.

By doing super slow, it makes a GREAT team after about 7 seasons, but they will never reach the levels that a regular "slow build" can reach by the 10th season.

Basically you sacrifice a whole season, lose about 6 levels and by the time you add all those saved XP, you are still 6 levels and 30 SP behind the guys who did it normally in the same timeframe.

So i just don;t get why its done so much.


This is the common misconception a lot of people are having a hard time dealing with.

Why stop with one guy? say I have a super slow built C.B. dominating for 7 seasons? the decline isn't really going to be as fast as people think.

then to top it off I have another super slow build right behind him ready to take over.

If you space your super slow build guys every 2 or 3 seasons, you will have endless premium built replacements.

Sorry to disagree, but:

- by season 12-15, the best build and highest leveled players will gather in the pros (I'm sure, by this time Bort has found a way to make agents want to play in the highest league possible)
- by that time, a player will usually start out in D-league, then stay in BBB for one or two seasons, then be in A or AA till about season 5-6, then one or two seasons in AAA and finally (in his 9th and 10th season) move up to the pros

Now if someone sits out more than one season, he'll be a very well build lv. 46 - but compete with well build lv. 52 players for the same spot on a Pro team.

So that is what you give up.

Besides that, I consider it pussy behavior to sit out some seasons in order to beat up younger players afterwards. But that's just an opinion.

Originally posted by RAPB


Now if someone sits out more than one season, he'll be a very well build lv. 46 - but compete with well build lv. 52 players for the same spot on a Pro team.

So that is what you give up.

Besides that, I consider it pussy behavior to sit out some seasons in order to beat up younger players afterwards. But that's just an opinion.

why does everyone think you give up 6 levels by sitting out a season? If you start a guy 1 season later, at lvl 1, you lose 2.6 levels. So how is it possible, that "starting" a guy 1 season later at lvl 4 (essentially what happens when you sit out a season), would cause you to lose more levels than that?

also depends on position. Centers get a full point to blocking and strength every level. So those 3 levels in difference would make 15 skill points plus 3 STR and blocking plus a full season of vet points( about 5) Its not as small a diff as u make it sound.

Originally posted by shawlemmond
also depends on position. Centers get a full point to blocking and strength every level. So those 3 levels in difference would make 15 skill points plus 3 STR and blocking plus a full season of vet points( about 5) Its not as small a diff as u make it sound.

let's look at a C that plans to get to 68 str 68blk as fast as he can. I was able to get to 69/69 by level 14 by sitting out a season. The earliest I've seen other people do it is lvl 16, and more often I see them do it by lvl 17. So let's assume they did it by lvl 16, compared to my lvl 14. So when my C reached lvl 16, he was 71str/71blk, but the other C is still at 69/69. At this point, I'm still about .6 level's behind the other C, but I got more out of my autolevel bonuses than he did, and I spent less sp to get to the same (approximately) str/blk levels.

that being said, I'll get to lvl 25 a season later, lvl 30 a season later, and so on. so my guy will have a disadvantage due to the veteran ability structure, but like I said earlier, i don't think the answer for C/G is nearly as obvious as everyone keeps claiming it is.

I'll have 72/72 by 16.

Originally posted by RAPB
Sorry to disagree, but:

- by season 12-15, the best build and highest leveled players will gather in the pros (I'm sure, by this time Bort has found a way to make agents want to play in the highest league possible)
- by that time, a player will usually start out in D-league, then stay in BBB for one or two seasons, then be in A or AA till about season 5-6, then one or two seasons in AAA and finally (in his 9th and 10th season) move up to the pros

Now if someone sits out more than one season, he'll be a very well build lv. 46 - but compete with well build lv. 52 players for the same spot on a Pro team.

So that is what you give up.

Besides that, I consider it pussy behavior to sit out some seasons in order to beat up younger players afterwards. But that's just an opinion.

I guess you just don't understand the depth of what I said.