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Bombers vs. Leviathans

Plays where Mecca or Blanket gets beaten (taking "beaten" to mean allowing a catch without a deflection):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8443181
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447559
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8448332
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8442953

Plays where Mike Cheque is clearly at fault for a bad play (meaning the pass missed the dot without being deflected):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8443740
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447716
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447745
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8448228

Whoa... they're EQUAL!

And that doesn't even tell the whole story. Blanket and Mecca combined were thrown at eleven times combined. Cheque threw 25 passes. I'll take 21 out of 25 over 7 out of 11.

Watch tape before you run your mouth. Stats tell a lot, and Cheque by my own admission had an absolutely shitty game, but he can't fix the fact that your CBs have better jumping and vision than our WRs.
 
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Originally posted by eb45
Bombers vs. Leviathans

Plays where Mecca or Blanket gets beaten (taking "beaten" to mean allowing a catch without a deflection):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8443181
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447559
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8448332
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8442953

Plays where Mike Cheque is clearly at fault for a bad play (meaning the pass missed the dot without being deflected):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8443740
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447716
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447745
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8448228

Whoa... they're EQUAL!

And that doesn't even tell the whole story. Blanket and Mecca combined were thrown at eleven times combined. Cheque threw 25 passes. I'll take 21 out of 25 over 7 out of 11.

Watch tape before you run your mouth. Stats tell a lot, and Cheque by my own admission had an absolutely shitty game, but he can't fix the fact that your CBs have better jumping and vision than our WRs.


Mecca always baits people into useless research...that's for sure. Spend that time scouting your next opponent.
 
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Originally posted by MF3K
Originally posted by eb45

Bombers vs. Leviathans

Plays where Mecca or Blanket gets beaten (taking "beaten" to mean allowing a catch without a deflection):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8443181
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447559
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8448332
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8442953

Plays where Mike Cheque is clearly at fault for a bad play (meaning the pass missed the dot without being deflected):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8443740
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447716
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447745
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8448228

Whoa... they're EQUAL!

And that doesn't even tell the whole story. Blanket and Mecca combined were thrown at eleven times combined. Cheque threw 25 passes. I'll take 21 out of 25 over 7 out of 11.

Watch tape before you run your mouth. Stats tell a lot, and Cheque by my own admission had an absolutely shitty game, but he can't fix the fact that your CBs have better jumping and vision than our WRs.


Mecca always baits people into useless research...that's for sure. Spend that time scouting your next opponent.


We've got the Devils tonight. Not a lot of scouting to do. Aggies next, but I have nothing to do tomorrow, so I'll be doing a LOT of scouting then.
 
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Originally posted by eb45
Bombers vs. Leviathans

Plays where Mecca or Blanket gets beaten (taking "beaten" to mean allowing a catch without a deflection):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8443181
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447559
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8448332
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8442953

Plays where Mike Cheque is clearly at fault for a bad play (meaning the pass missed the dot without being deflected):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8443740
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447716
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447745
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8448228

Whoa... they're EQUAL!

And that doesn't even tell the whole story. Blanket and Mecca combined were thrown at eleven times combined. Cheque threw 25 passes. I'll take 21 out of 25 over 7 out of 11.

Watch tape before you run your mouth. Stats tell a lot, and Cheque by my own admission had an absolutely shitty game, but he can't fix the fact that your CBs have better jumping and vision than our WRs.


Ah jeez, not you again. This shit is sooo 2 days ago.

Im like a fucking Human dart board around here.....

Ok, here we go. I have no clue what your point is. What are you getting at? That we allowed you 73 passing yards all game?

Listen: EVERYTHING YOU POST ONLY MAKES US LOOK BETTER. 73 YARDS. UNDERSTAND? I cant say it any clearer than that.

Ever think that we were only thrown at 11 times because your boys were covered? Huh? Have you?

Why don't you list the the 6 PD's? Dont want to talk about that? Here. Let me try to get this through your head.

73 passing yards.
6 PD's between the 2 starting Cb's, should i list the PD's for the whole team? Should I go there?
So, if you threw it to us 11 times, and 6 were batted, wouldn't that mean that you have less than a 50% completion % when throwing our way?

So, when you WR's actually did get somewhat open, we swatted that shit more than 50% of the time. Dude....come on....

Not to mention the fact that your O-line gave you all kinds of time. We had 2 Hurries and 0 sacks.

WE SHUT YOU DOWN WITHOUT A PASS RUSH.

You have nothing to stand on. Nothing. You're right, stats tell the truth, and they say are all stacked against you.

And don't throw your WR's under the bus for your failures. You don't know what my build is. Like Nephyte Said, 85 Confidence, 92 Awesome and 8 genitals, that doesn't leave much room for Vision and jumping in my build.

and were did you get this 21 of 25 shit from? You making up theoretical numbers to plead your case? Dude.....
 
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Originally posted by Dirkdolan
Originally posted by eb45

Bombers vs. Leviathans

Plays where Mecca or Blanket gets beaten (taking "beaten" to mean allowing a catch without a deflection):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8443181
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447559
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8448332
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8442953

Plays where Mike Cheque is clearly at fault for a bad play (meaning the pass missed the dot without being deflected):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8443740
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447716
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447745
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8448228

Whoa... they're EQUAL!

And that doesn't even tell the whole story. Blanket and Mecca combined were thrown at eleven times combined. Cheque threw 25 passes. I'll take 21 out of 25 over 7 out of 11.

Watch tape before you run your mouth. Stats tell a lot, and Cheque by my own admission had an absolutely shitty game, but he can't fix the fact that your CBs have better jumping and vision than our WRs.


Ah jeez, not you again. This shit is sooo 2 days ago.

Im like a fucking Human dart board around here.....

Ok, here we go. I have no clue what your point is. What are you getting at? That we allowed you 73 passing yards all game?

Listen: EVERYTHING YOU POST ONLY MAKES US LOOK BETTER. 73 YARDS. UNDERSTAND? I cant say it any clearer than that.

Ever think that we were only thrown at 11 times because your boys were covered? Huh? Have you?

Why don't you list the the 6 PD's? Dont want to talk about that? Here. Let me try to get this through your head.

73 passing yards.
6 PD's between the 2 starting Cb's, should i list the PD's for the whole team? Should I go there?
So, if you threw it to us 11 times, and 6 were batted, wouldn't that mean that you have less than a 50% completion % when throwing our way?

So, when you WR's actually did get somewhat open, we swatted that shit more than 50% of the time. Dude....come on....

Not to mention the fact that your O-line gave you all kinds of time. We had 2 Hurries and 0 sacks.

WE SHUT YOU DOWN WITHOUT A PASS RUSH.

You have nothing to stand on. Nothing. You're right, stats tell the truth, and they say are all stacked against you.

And don't throw your WR's under the bus for your failures. You don't know what my build is. Like Nephyte Said, 85 Confidence, 92 Awesome and 8 genitals, that doesn't leave much room for Vision and jumping in my build.

and were did you get this 21 of 25 shit from? You making up theoretical numbers to plead your case? Dude.....


ouch!
i would just stop posting now tbh.. i dont think its guna get any better

 
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Originally posted by Dirkdolan
Originally posted by eb45

Bombers vs. Leviathans

Plays where Mecca or Blanket gets beaten (taking "beaten" to mean allowing a catch without a deflection):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8443181
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447559
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8448332
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8442953

Plays where Mike Cheque is clearly at fault for a bad play (meaning the pass missed the dot without being deflected):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8443740
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447716
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447745
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8448228

Whoa... they're EQUAL!

And that doesn't even tell the whole story. Blanket and Mecca combined were thrown at eleven times combined. Cheque threw 25 passes. I'll take 21 out of 25 over 7 out of 11.

Watch tape before you run your mouth. Stats tell a lot, and Cheque by my own admission had an absolutely shitty game, but he can't fix the fact that your CBs have better jumping and vision than our WRs.


Ah jeez, not you again. This shit is sooo 2 days ago.

Im like a fucking Human dart board around here.....

Ok, here we go. I have no clue what your point is. What are you getting at? That we allowed you 73 passing yards all game?

Listen: EVERYTHING YOU POST ONLY MAKES US LOOK BETTER. 73 YARDS. UNDERSTAND? I cant say it any clearer than that.

Ever think that we were only thrown at 11 times because your boys were covered? Huh? Have you?

Why don't you list the the 6 PD's? Dont want to talk about that? Here. Let me try to get this through your head.

73 passing yards.
6 PD's between the 2 starting Cb's, should i list the PD's for the whole team? Should I go there?
So, if you threw it to us 11 times, and 6 were batted, wouldn't that mean that you have less than a 50% completion % when throwing our way?

So, when you WR's actually did get somewhat open, we swatted that shit more than 50% of the time. Dude....come on....

Not to mention the fact that your O-line gave you all kinds of time. We had 2 Hurries and 0 sacks.

WE SHUT YOU DOWN WITHOUT A PASS RUSH.

You have nothing to stand on. Nothing. You're right, stats tell the truth, and they say are all stacked against you.

And don't throw your WR's under the bus for your failures. You don't know what my build is. Like Nephyte Said, 85 Confidence, 92 Awesome and 8 genitals, that doesn't leave much room for Vision and jumping in my build.

and were did you get this 21 of 25 shit from? You making up theoretical numbers to plead your case? Dude.....


I'm not arguing Cheque is "better" than Mecca. I am arguing that Cheque made less mistakes than Mecca. Looked through the PBP and that wasn't actually true, but I could only find four plays where an incompletion was clearly his fault as opposed to a good play by the defense (out of 25). I found two plays where Mecca allowed a catch out of six times he was thrown at, including one I thought was particularly funny, which I posted on the league board. You seemed to take that as a personal insult, and decided to turn it into an "OMG UR DOT IS TEH SUCKZ" war. I mean, it's fucking dotball. Who cares whether my dot had 73 yards passing, I saw nothing in the game that indicated he needed a change in build or tactics. Every throw except for four was right on the money, but everybody was covered. Not his fault. You guys have excellent CBs, and when you drop seven guys every play, it's hard to pass. If I didn't think they were any good, why would I be pointing out when they messed up?

Your dot is good. Happy? Fact remains, he screwed up on that one play, and if he doesn't, MAYBE you guys win the game.
 
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Originally posted by eb45
Originally posted by Dirkdolan

Originally posted by eb45


Bombers vs. Leviathans

Plays where Mecca or Blanket gets beaten (taking "beaten" to mean allowing a catch without a deflection):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8443181
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447559
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8448332
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8442953

Plays where Mike Cheque is clearly at fault for a bad play (meaning the pass missed the dot without being deflected):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8443740
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447716
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8447745
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316565&pbp_id=8448228

Whoa... they're EQUAL!

And that doesn't even tell the whole story. Blanket and Mecca combined were thrown at eleven times combined. Cheque threw 25 passes. I'll take 21 out of 25 over 7 out of 11.

Watch tape before you run your mouth. Stats tell a lot, and Cheque by my own admission had an absolutely shitty game, but he can't fix the fact that your CBs have better jumping and vision than our WRs.


Ah jeez, not you again. This shit is sooo 2 days ago.

Im like a fucking Human dart board around here.....

Ok, here we go. I have no clue what your point is. What are you getting at? That we allowed you 73 passing yards all game?

Listen: EVERYTHING YOU POST ONLY MAKES US LOOK BETTER. 73 YARDS. UNDERSTAND? I cant say it any clearer than that.

Ever think that we were only thrown at 11 times because your boys were covered? Huh? Have you?

Why don't you list the the 6 PD's? Dont want to talk about that? Here. Let me try to get this through your head.

73 passing yards.
6 PD's between the 2 starting Cb's, should i list the PD's for the whole team? Should I go there?
So, if you threw it to us 11 times, and 6 were batted, wouldn't that mean that you have less than a 50% completion % when throwing our way?

So, when you WR's actually did get somewhat open, we swatted that shit more than 50% of the time. Dude....come on....

Not to mention the fact that your O-line gave you all kinds of time. We had 2 Hurries and 0 sacks.

WE SHUT YOU DOWN WITHOUT A PASS RUSH.

You have nothing to stand on. Nothing. You're right, stats tell the truth, and they say are all stacked against you.

And don't throw your WR's under the bus for your failures. You don't know what my build is. Like Nephyte Said, 85 Confidence, 92 Awesome and 8 genitals, that doesn't leave much room for Vision and jumping in my build.

and were did you get this 21 of 25 shit from? You making up theoretical numbers to plead your case? Dude.....


I'm not arguing Cheque is "better" than Mecca. I am arguing that Cheque made less mistakes than Mecca. Looked through the PBP and that wasn't actually true, but I could only find four plays where an incompletion was clearly his fault as opposed to a good play by the defense (out of 25). I found two plays where Mecca allowed a catch out of six times he was thrown at, including one I thought was particularly funny, which I posted on the league board. You seemed to take that as a personal insult, and decided to turn it into an "OMG UR DOT IS TEH SUCKZ" war. I mean, it's fucking dotball. Who cares whether my dot had 73 yards passing, I saw nothing in the game that indicated he needed a change in build or tactics. Every throw except for four was right on the money, but everybody was covered. Not his fault. You guys have excellent CBs, and when you drop seven guys every play, it's hard to pass. If I didn't think they were any good, why would I be pointing out when they messed up?

Your dot is good. Happy? Fact remains, he screwed up on that one play, and if he doesn't, MAYBE you guys win the game.


I am not trying to be rude here but the point you are trying to make is sort of a mute point how can you compare a QB and a CB. I know you are trying to say that your QB didn't make as many mistakes as a CB well here is the thing there is no possible way you could gauge such a comparison. I may be wrong here but I can't see anyway for a true comparison it is like comparing apples and oranges.
 
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My point at the start was "haha look at this play... Mecca blew his assignment"

He responded with "stfu your WR is irrelevant"

I said "that's not even my player... my player had a shitty game but he never flat-out blew a crucial play"

he said "your dot sucks"

I said "I'm not saying my dot doesn't suck, I'm saying he never screwed up as badly as your dot did on that one play"

he said "STFU YOUR DOT SUCKS"

I said "I'm not saying my dot doesn't suck, I'm saying he never screwed up as badly as your dot did on that one play, and besides, it's fucking dotball"
 
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Originally posted by hatchman
I am not trying to be rude here but the point you are trying to make is sort of a mute point how can you compare a QB and a CB. I know you are trying to say that your QB didn't make as many mistakes as a CB well here is the thing there is no possible way you could gauge such a comparison. I may be wrong here but I can't see anyway for a true comparison it is like comparing apples and oranges.


I agree that it's impossible. I'm trying to look at plays where they screwed up, but it's a lot harder to "not screw up" at QB than it is at CB. A QB can do everything perfectly and still get nothing but an incompletion. Which happened nine times in the Yukon-Lake Erie game.

21 well-executed plays out of 25 is better than four well-executed plays out of six is basically what I'm trying to say here.
 
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Originally posted by eb45
Originally posted by hatchman

I am not trying to be rude here but the point you are trying to make is sort of a mute point how can you compare a QB and a CB. I know you are trying to say that your QB didn't make as many mistakes as a CB well here is the thing there is no possible way you could gauge such a comparison. I may be wrong here but I can't see anyway for a true comparison it is like comparing apples and oranges.


I agree that it's impossible. I'm trying to look at plays where they screwed up, but it's a lot harder to "not screw up" at QB than it is at CB. A QB can do everything perfectly and still get nothing but an incompletion. Which happened nine times in the Yukon-Lake Erie game.

21 well-executed plays out of 25 is better than four well-executed plays out of six is basically what I'm trying to say here.


that is cool I just couldn't figure out how you were trying to compare the 2 positions thanks for clarifying.
 
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All of this aside. The most important thing on this thread is "Spend that time scouting your next opponent"
I tried my hardest as the DC up agaisnt the Aggies and couldnt do a damn thing to stop The Aggies and their "Marshall Faulk" like running back......
 
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Originally posted by cinncy tedlegs
All of this aside. The most important thing on this thread is "Spend that time scouting your next opponent"
I tried my hardest as the DC up agaisnt the Aggies and couldnt do a damn thing to stop The Aggies and their "Marshall Faulk" like running back......


I've been doing that as well, and plan to do even more tomorrow. I'm the OC of the Bombers, so I don't get the incredibly fun task of figuring out how to stop that offense. That's BillySims' job. I just get to figure out how to get my QB to stop sucking.
 
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Originally posted by eb45
Originally posted by cinncy tedlegs

All of this aside. The most important thing on this thread is "Spend that time scouting your next opponent"
I tried my hardest as the DC up agaisnt the Aggies and couldnt do a damn thing to stop The Aggies and their "Marshall Faulk" like running back......


I've been doing that as well, and plan to do even more tomorrow. I'm the OC of the Bombers, so I don't get the incredibly fun task of figuring out how to stop that offense. That's BillySims' job. I just get to figure out how to get my QB to stop sucking.


I sent you a PM on a thought I had.
 
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Originally posted by eb45
Originally posted by hatchman

I am not trying to be rude here but the point you are trying to make is sort of a mute point how can you compare a QB and a CB. I know you are trying to say that your QB didn't make as many mistakes as a CB well here is the thing there is no possible way you could gauge such a comparison. I may be wrong here but I can't see anyway for a true comparison it is like comparing apples and oranges.


I agree that it's impossible. I'm trying to look at plays where they screwed up, but it's a lot harder to "not screw up" at QB than it is at CB. A QB can do everything perfectly and still get nothing but an incompletion. Which happened nine times in the Yukon-Lake Erie game.

21 well-executed plays out of 25 is better than four well-executed plays out of six is basically what I'm trying to say here.


Regardless of your point, when you call me out, your asking for me to call you out as well.
 
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