Warrior General Games

Originally posted by sharkey28
Originally posted by KamikazeHawk

Originally posted by Terrorz18


Originally posted by KamikazeHawk



HA! Are you suggesting you haven't boosted your level 25 WR? I only have 6 of my own players on my team and only about 50% of my team is from people I know personally.

Are you gonna keep spewing what ever comes out of that corn filled head of yours or do you have anything worth while to contribute?

No, I haven't.

I'm sorry sir but I am going to call your bluff on this one. I have a level 25 SS that was a level 13 when signed day 1 of season 4 during our first year as a level 13 capped team. He was roughly to level 20 by the end of the season 4 including 3 boosts and is now a level 25 almost 26 with using 3 boosts again in season 5. He is our starting SS and gets max XP everygame. You're statement means that your WR has averaged 3 additional levels up to my SS during that same period. You sir are a liar. Thank you again for your useless contributions.

As for who contributes money to this GLB? You should. Your useless and ignorant posts take up space on the servers I pay for by boosting and purchasing custom equipment and extending my ownership and building players. Which makes you a bloodsucking life form enjoying this game at the expense of others and not contributing.

http://www.ultimatesportsboards.com/forums/img/smilies/meltdown.gif

now I gotta dig up a link to :rofl

Guys, I hate to disagree with the unanimous #1 pick, but I can't see how you all can decide that a QB is the best offensive player on the field. In my opinion, the QB has very little to do with the success of a team's passing game. There are no secrets or tricks to making a QB that can throw 5000 yards every season with very few picks. There are several other factors that go into a QBs stats:

1) The WRs are the biggest factors of a passing offense. As most QBs soft cap vision early on, they all have the same "decision-making" capability. What sets great passing offenses apart is the quality of their WR corps.

2) The O-line has a big part in passing stats, too. The QB would not accomplish anything if he got hurried and sacked 10 times a game. The Linemen's impact on the passing game is less than that of the WRs because there are certain idiosyncrasies (had to use firefox's spell check) of this game that favor DEs. So a good pass-rush can stifle a very good passing game.

3) The interaction of opposing teams' tactics have with each other has a bigger effect than the build of the QB. Any given game, your opponent can pick the 100% correct defense or the 100% wrong defense to play against your team. This, combined with the tactics your team sets, has a great effect on the outcome of the game. Sometimes, though, teams are just way too out leveled to compete.

4) Sometimes, levels do matter. You can have a great gameplan fall apart because the other team is just too damn good. You start off sucking because your team sucks, and then you spiral down into a pit of suckiness because of morale and energy factors. This also works the other way around. You can have a great team that has problems with few teams, and you will look like a stud no matter what you do. The main point here is that the level of relative talent on the opposing teams can be a factor in your QBs output.

I understand that it is much more difficult to fish out the truly great performers in this game because you have to wade through so much game film to see past their stats. I just have a hard time conceding that a QB is the BEST offensive player in the league.

Originally posted by dvdatm
Guys, I hate to disagree with the unanimous #1 pick, but I can't see how you all can decide that a QB is the best offensive player on the field. In my opinion, the QB has very little to do with the success of a team's passing game. There are no secrets or tricks to making a QB that can throw 5000 yards every season with very few picks. There are several other factors that go into a QBs stats:

1) The WRs are the biggest factors of a passing offense. As most QBs soft cap vision early on, they all have the same "decision-making" capability. What sets great passing offenses apart is the quality of their WR corps.

2) The O-line has a big part in passing stats, too. The QB would not accomplish anything if he got hurried and sacked 10 times a game. The Linemen's impact on the passing game is less than that of the WRs because there are certain idiosyncrasies (had to use firefox's spell check) of this game that favor DEs. So a good pass-rush can stifle a very good passing game.

3) The interaction of opposing teams' tactics have with each other has a bigger effect than the build of the QB. Any given game, your opponent can pick the 100% correct defense or the 100% wrong defense to play against your team. This, combined with the tactics your team sets, has a great effect on the outcome of the game. Sometimes, though, teams are just way too out leveled to compete.

4) Sometimes, levels do matter. You can have a great gameplan fall apart because the other team is just too damn good. You start off sucking because your team sucks, and then you spiral down into a pit of suckiness because of morale and energy factors. This also works the other way around. You can have a great team that has problems with few teams, and you will look like a stud no matter what you do. The main point here is that the level of relative talent on the opposing teams can be a factor in your QBs output.

I understand that it is much more difficult to fish out the truly great performers in this game because you have to wade through so much game film to see past their stats. I just have a hard time conceding that a QB is the BEST offensive player in the league.

maybe, My QB plays in a tough tough league and his OL isn't up to par and he gets hurried and sacked well over 10 times a game. While the team is bad, my QB is top 5 in pretty much everything in the league and he went 7 straight games this year without throwing a pick. While the WRs are pretty good, we're still way outmatched by the DBs in that league yet my QB can still get the ball to his men.

Originally posted by dvdatm
Guys, I hate to disagree with the unanimous #1 pick, but I can't see how you all can decide that a QB is the best offensive player on the field. In my opinion, the QB has very little to do with the success of a team's passing game. There are no secrets or tricks to making a QB that can throw 5000 yards every season with very few picks. There are several other factors that go into a QBs stats:

1) The WRs are the biggest factors of a passing offense. As most QBs soft cap vision early on, they all have the same "decision-making" capability. What sets great passing offenses apart is the quality of their WR corps.

2) The O-line has a big part in passing stats, too. The QB would not accomplish anything if he got hurried and sacked 10 times a game. The Linemen's impact on the passing game is less than that of the WRs because there are certain idiosyncrasies (had to use firefox's spell check) of this game that favor DEs. So a good pass-rush can stifle a very good passing game.

3) The interaction of opposing teams' tactics have with each other has a bigger effect than the build of the QB. Any given game, your opponent can pick the 100% correct defense or the 100% wrong defense to play against your team. This, combined with the tactics your team sets, has a great effect on the outcome of the game. Sometimes, though, teams are just way too out leveled to compete.

4) Sometimes, levels do matter. You can have a great gameplan fall apart because the other team is just too damn good. You start off sucking because your team sucks, and then you spiral down into a pit of suckiness because of morale and energy factors. This also works the other way around. You can have a great team that has problems with few teams, and you will look like a stud no matter what you do. The main point here is that the level of relative talent on the opposing teams can be a factor in your QBs output.

I understand that it is much more difficult to fish out the truly great performers in this game because you have to wade through so much game film to see past their stats. I just have a hard time conceding that a QB is the BEST offensive player in the league.

Not to be too contrary to you because 1. I wasted too much energy on the CornKids and 2. I agree with almost everything you said. However, this is not a matter of who has the best player but I think Player of the year goes to the person that had the most productive season. Your argument could really be based on every position though. A RB goes nowhere without an Oline and a WR can't catch a pass if the Line can't block or the QB can't throw.

Originally posted by shrubx
maybe, My QB plays in a tough tough league and his OL isn't up to par and he gets hurried and sacked well over 10 times a game. While the team is bad, my QB is top 5 in pretty much everything in the league and he went 7 straight games this year without throwing a pick. While the WRs are pretty good, we're still way outmatched by the DBs in that league yet my QB can still get the ball to his men.

Looking at the last game your QB played in, I would say his performance was created by the WRs and the offensive/defensive tactics. Most of his yards were on long bombs over the heads of the CBs. It seems that your team was set to throw mostly long and your WRs probably have 80+ in speed. The other team's CBs also look like they were on close/aggressive coverage. Combine these factors together, and you get a very successful passing game.

Originally posted by KamikazeHawk
Your argument could really be based on every position though. A RB goes nowhere without an Oline and a WR can't catch a pass if the Line can't block or the QB can't throw.

I agree with the theory that a HB will not be successful without a good game plan and a solid line. However, I believe that the QB dependence on the team (and not on his build) is a lot more apparent than any other position.

Originally posted by KamikazeHawk
Originally posted by dvdatm

Guys, I hate to disagree with the unanimous #1 pick, but I can't see how you all can decide that a QB is the best offensive player on the field. In my opinion, the QB has very little to do with the success of a team's passing game. There are no secrets or tricks to making a QB that can throw 5000 yards every season with very few picks. There are several other factors that go into a QBs stats:

1) The WRs are the biggest factors of a passing offense. As most QBs soft cap vision early on, they all have the same "decision-making" capability. What sets great passing offenses apart is the quality of their WR corps.

2) The O-line has a big part in passing stats, too. The QB would not accomplish anything if he got hurried and sacked 10 times a game. The Linemen's impact on the passing game is less than that of the WRs because there are certain idiosyncrasies (had to use firefox's spell check) of this game that favor DEs. So a good pass-rush can stifle a very good passing game.

3) The interaction of opposing teams' tactics have with each other has a bigger effect than the build of the QB. Any given game, your opponent can pick the 100% correct defense or the 100% wrong defense to play against your team. This, combined with the tactics your team sets, has a great effect on the outcome of the game. Sometimes, though, teams are just way too out leveled to compete.

4) Sometimes, levels do matter. You can have a great gameplan fall apart because the other team is just too damn good. You start off sucking because your team sucks, and then you spiral down into a pit of suckiness because of morale and energy factors. This also works the other way around. You can have a great team that has problems with few teams, and you will look like a stud no matter what you do. The main point here is that the level of relative talent on the opposing teams can be a factor in your QBs output.

I understand that it is much more difficult to fish out the truly great performers in this game because you have to wade through so much game film to see past their stats. I just have a hard time conceding that a QB is the BEST offensive player in the league.

Not to be too contrary to you because 1. I wasted too much energy on the CornKids and 2. I agree with almost everything you said. However, this is not a matter of who has the best player but I think Player of the year goes to the person that had the most productive season. Your argument could really be based on every position though. A RB goes nowhere without an Oline and a WR can't catch a pass if the Line can't block or the QB can't throw.

Productivity is key. Ledainian Tomlinson and Adrian Peterson wouldn't have had the season they did had they not had good lines. So should the MVP award have been given to the line? Or should their award been taken away because the other teams weren't focusing on the run? NO, of course not. You give it to the Player (Kamikaze Ritter) who game in and game out performed and succeeded. It's no coincidence that Kamikaze, Titus and Christina are leading the boards in their own respective fields. The one can not be successful without the other. If Kamikaze's receivers had dropped as many passes as say... I don't know... Seein Adkins, Kamikaze would not have had the year he did. Number for number, Nobody matches up to Kamikaze, whether he had a full arsenal or not.

LOL

I think that comparing real life football to GLB is a mistake. There are too many human factors IRL that don't show up here. A NFL QB has so many variables to overcome to be successful when a GLB QB has most everything laid out for him very simply. His decisions are made by everyone but him.

I highly respect the Knights and the team they have. I just disagree that their QB is the best offensive player in this league. In my eyes, his stat line is a testament to his team's accomplishments, and not to the fact that he is a superior player.

perspective fields....LMFAO

also, you're an idiot lol

Originally posted by dvdatm
I think that comparing real life football to GLB is a mistake. There are too many human factors IRL that don't show up here. A NFL QB has so many variables to overcome to be successful when a GLB QB has most everything laid out for him very simply. His decisions are made by everyone but him.

I highly respect the Knights and the team they have. I just disagree that their QB is the best offensive player in this league. In my eyes, his stat line is a testament to his team's accomplishments, and not to the fact that he is a superior player.



Well I suppose since there is no other team that can collectively compare to the Knights Offensive passing game. I suppose the Offensive player of the Year should go to the leader of that pack. I certainly hope you dont suggest giving the award to a less successful Player just because the rest of their team wasn't as good as our ensemble is. Cause thats what it sounds like you're saying.

And although it is very difficult to compare GLB to the NFL, the underlined truth remains the same... It's a "What have you done for me lately" world. And whether it be good build, bad build, circumstantial or motivation and effort, the only thing that matters when awards are handed out, Is the final numbers.

Offensive Player of the Year: Kamikaze Ritter (Hands down)
Defensive Player of the Year: Brick Waahl -Good Build, bad build, good ensemble or not, same rule applies. This beast puts up numbers.

Originally posted by Terrorz18
perspective fields....LMFAO

Should I use smaller words for you next time.

"Their positions"
still to much?
"Where Dey Play"

Originally posted by dvdatm
I just disagree that their QB is the best offensive player in this league. In my eyes, his stat line is a testament to his team's accomplishments, and not to the fact that he is a superior player.


I agree completely with this statement. My thought is that the award is not given to the best offensive player but rather the most productive player.

Originally posted by robbi_knight34
Originally posted by Terrorz18

perspective fields....LMFAO

Should I use smaller words for you next time.

"Their positions"
still to much?
"Where Dey Play"

No, I want you to use the right word. Get a dictionary smart guy.

Originally posted by Terrorz18
perspective fields....LMFAO

also, you're an idiot lol

The conversation was getting too logical, so a Corn Grower had to pipe up.