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Bubbles. Thanks for taking time away from managing yer one active player.





"GE you can be a self serving douche at times, but i believe even you will say that was completely fucked and cost us the game. i am saying it clearly right now, if this game is not overturned and re-simmed due to the error on game tactics i will quit GLB. this has been going on for 30 seasons and now it just ruined the biggest game of the season. enough is enough"




"The play that broke baby"




https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/539427/2207648




As you were,




WC

Originally posted by Rob.
What the hell happened this season?!

GE won a trophy?


I told you I would take over this pathetic galaxy once you were gone

I'd be pissed if I was Sov too. You put the time and work into this game and lose due to an idiotic tactics code.

GE did what he needed to do and won. You can't slight GE for winning and putting together that amazing drive to win the game.

I wish we had the option of GLB1 style tactics minus the go for it on every forth down and tagging. That way if you spike the ball and kick the FG too early it is your own fault.

Originally posted by whoiscandi
Bubbles. Thanks for taking time away from managing yer one active player.

okay this one had me rolling

Originally posted by Sov.
regardless of the changes to man coverage and current state of the sim, your team has played well all season and beat a lot of good teams and and you did a good job mixing up your defensive playcalls to try and throw us off in the finals. for all things considered your team deserved the win and it was a close game right until the end.

the issue is that "losing" a game 100% due to a bug in the sim and it being beyond your control is tough to accept for anyone, especially in a vet champ game. so congrats on your win, but at the same time anyone with a non-biased opinion should understand my disappointment with the sim and this result.

I mean, it is definitely an issue to look into for sure.

But 100% due to flawed logic? Games are never decided by one play or drive. You had 60 minutes to win, the game is longer than the 25 seconds that the flawed logic gave GE at the end. You'd have also won if you made the FG on the very first drive. It was a 99% percent close game that was decided by the 1% of flawed logic at the end.

Then again, it also isn't as simple as it's being made out to be. GE still had 3 timeouts left...technically, you never had the chance to run the clock to one. That's probably why it wasn't attempted, based on the code. Maybe it could have forced him to waste timeouts? Maybe timeouts should have been called earlier? At best you could get him to burn timeouts then try to kick a FG with a running clock after a kneel. Would less than 30 seconds be enough time for a kneel and a FG? Maybe? Probably?

The logic decided to go with the conservative choice of ensuring a 5 yard kick with ample time to actually make it, while giving GE 17 seconds to score. There's a whole lot of "maybes" and "what ifs" you can play. Maybe it should have forced him to burn TO's. Maybe a TO should have been called after the 1st down completion. Either way, it was a really close game that was decided by maybes. GE managing to put points on the board with 17 seconds on the clock is pretty impressive either way, and probably deserves the win.

Then again, it looks like there's actually code in to run the clock down to 1 before a FG at the end of the game.

It looks like it should have ran down to 1. Time was less than 60, greater than 15, and score difference was less than 3. Though then GE would be complaining that he didn't call timeouts.

Being pretty new, wading into this is certainly out of my depth. This is basically how our last game ended, not in terms of score but in terms of end of game logic: https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/539318/

We run the ball, take a knee to waste the time outs, and then kick a field goal. I've seen this happen a bunch so the logic exists somewhere.

Is there something that's not firing correctly due to their game being close and the team going for the FG being down? I bet if the score was reversed they would have run the clock down. Maybe the team that is down, but can win with a FG, is being superceded by some other logic?

Well either way I appreciate the review and looking into it

I agree GE had 3 time outs but we had 1st down on the 5 yard line and could have burned down all their time outs with kneels and kicked the FG with little to no time left on the clock

Maybe GE scores on the KR next play but he would not have time for 3 passes and a FG. So yes not 100% but let's say 99% lol

Regardless, I do believe after 30 seasons the end of half and end of game tactics either need to be user controlled or looked into and adjusted because they happen often but a handful of times per season they cost teams an unfair loss.

Thanks CD

Originally posted by eviltcat
Being pretty new, wading into this is certainly out of my depth. This is basically how our last game ended, not in terms of score but in terms of end of game logic: https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/539318/

We run the ball, take a knee to waste the time outs, and then kick a field goal. I've seen this happen a bunch so the logic exists somewhere.

Is there something that's not firing correctly due to their game being close and the team going for the FG being down? I bet if the score was reversed they would have run the clock down. Maybe the team that is down, but can win with a FG, is being superceded by some other logic?

I've said this before. The logic seems backwards for this situation.

Better discussion and fair points.


Hopefully the logic and game at large will continue to evolve.



I'm assuming there will be no re-playing of the contest and that SOV will be back next season.



Onward,



WC

Originally posted by whoiscandi
Better discussion and fair points.


Hopefully the logic and game at large will continue to evolve.



I'm assuming there will be no re-playing of the contest and that SOV will be back next season.



Onward,



WC

I'm assuming you weigh 300 lbs

as you were,

SOV

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
I'd be pissed if I was Sov too. You put the time and work into this game and lose due to an idiotic tactics code.

GE did what he needed to do and won. You can't slight GE for winning and putting together that amazing drive to win the game.

I wish we had the option of GLB1 style tactics minus the go for it on every forth down and tagging. That way if you spike the ball and kick the FG too early it is your own fault.

yes at the end of the day GE did what he had to do to win. i just feel that at the same time, we did exactly what we needed to do to win before he should have even got the chance lol. it is what it is and its good for GE to get a vet champ title before his team resets, we got a few seasons left to try and grab one or two more.

Originally posted by Sov.
I'm assuming you weigh 300 lbs

as you were,

SOV

Lol a pot leaf is your symbol? Who is the one most likely munching late night snacks hehe

Originally posted by holt1dj
Lol a pot leaf is your symbol? Who is the one most likely munching late night snacks hehe

SOV


They are not re-playing the game and you are not going to quit as you promised. My obesity has nothing to do with yer hollow declarations of whining.


"The play that broke baby"



https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/539427/2207648



Also GE did not post the score of Empire against the only team I own the "Hustlers"(Veteran Franklin League Champions) for some reason.
Wonder why he chose to leave that one out? Anyway here it is.



https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/533528



See you all(Including SOV even though he promised to quit)next season.



Off to the fat farm


Onward,



WC

Originally posted by whoiscandi




Off to the fat farm


Onward,



WC



+1 for that one my friend

Originally posted by holt1dj
Lol a pot leaf is your symbol? Who is the one most likely munching late night snacks hehe

very high metabolism