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Originally posted by Pithy Radish
if you're interested in AWD you can also check out Subaru's other offerings such as the plain Subaru Impreza. They are simple cars, but they have AWD, and they're pretty much the lowest priced Subaru car assuming that you don't go with the WRX.

Yeah I've been into Subaru for a while. I'd probably get the Legacy if I went with a smaller car, given that it's the biggest of the small cars they offer. The Impreza feels kinda cheap in the few test drives I've done. Hell I can about afford a 2015 if I go Impreza

WRX would be a waste with me. I drive like a grandma until it rains, then I go mudding/splashing.

Originally posted by rams78110
Yeah I've been into Subaru for a while. I'd probably get the Legacy if I went with a smaller car, given that it's the biggest of the small cars they offer. The Impreza feels kinda cheap in the few test drives I've done. Hell I can about afford a 2015 if I go Impreza

WRX would be a waste with me. I drive like a grandma until it rains, then I go mudding/splashing.

I swear, half of the guys I worked with drove heavily modified WRX's, I would always give them shit about not having the STI. They didn't like that ha! For the amount they spent on all of the parts they threw on it they could've had one.....

Originally posted by Pithy Radish
I swear, half of the guys I worked with drove heavily modified WRX's, I would always give them shit about not having the STI. They didn't like that ha! For the amount they spent on all of the parts they threw on it they could've had one.....

I swear all of my non-married friends drive Lancers, Civics, or GTIs. Idk wtf it is with car people and that stuff lol. Maybe it's a barbie type 'I can do whatever I want to it' thing.

I'm more where you're at to a much lesser degree. Engines and actually making the car work are what Im interested in, not mixing and matching exterior parts and sound systems

Originally posted by Pithy Radish
My buddy bought a Honda with only 50k paying around 2%, I also know a guy who bought a Subaru Impreza and is still around 2%. The used car loans don't always have more interest, though it depends on your credit rating.

yeah, I had 2.9% on my truck 6-7 yrs ago


if you have bad credit they are going to rape you on interest. and not the good kind of rape like when your hot math teacher blows you in the boys bathroom.

Originally posted by rams78110
AWD or 4WD, FWD if it's an SUV. Living where I live after dealing with a major accident where another car hit me on ice, it's kinda non-negotiable for me to have as good of grip as I can.

explain how 4wd or awd helps stop on ice

Originally posted by seths99
explain how 4wd or awd helps stop on ice

Where did I say it helps stop on ice?

Originally posted by rams78110
Where did I say it helps stop on ice?

well, you're looking for a 4wd or an awd because of an accident that happened on ice. the logical conclusion was that you thought 4wd or awd helps stop on ice, or gives you better control on ice.

Originally posted by seths99
explain how 4wd or awd helps stop on ice

AWD adjusts for traction, helping to maximize power where it's need and minimize it where it is not. It very much helps control on slippery roads.

4WD kind of helps in that all tires have power instead of two, which helps even out traction loss a bit, since it means less power on each tire. It's not as effective as AWD, but it's still better.

Then again, it doesn't matter what you're driving if "another car hit me".

Even with no wheels, that would have still happened.

Originally posted by Corndog
AWD adjusts for traction, helping to maximize power where it's need and minimize it where it is not. It very much helps control on slippery roads.

4WD kind of helps in that all tires have power instead of two, which helps even out traction loss a bit, since it means less power on each tire. It's not as effective as AWD, but it's still better.

^This.

I drive slow enough that sudden stopping power on ice isn't a concern. I could safely stop a unicycle on ice how I drive. But hitting extra slick patches when Im already going, maintaining control during regular driving maneuvers, and being able to get a wee bit of extra grip when starting on ice from a dead stop are situations I'd like to have an AWD/4WD.

Originally posted by Corndog
Then again, it doesn't matter what you're driving if "another car hit me".

Even with no wheels, that would have still happened.

It probably would have still happened. I take it you've never been in a severe accident. I'm doing everything I can to keep it from happening again and to be as safe on the road as possible. AWD/4WD are nonnegotiable requirements in my next car.

Anyway, back to the "new car" talk.

If you're living in a place with lots of ice and snow, you're probably wasting your money if you are going to be driving in it. The only thing the salt from the roads will eat away at faster than the paint job and undercarriage is it's value.

They just aren't worth it unless it's going to be a summer time vehicle that you keep in the garage for the winter.

That was actually one fairly jarring thing moving from Ohio to Oregon. I don't see any salt corrosion on cars here, which is weird after it being the norm for so many years.

Originally posted by Corndog
AWD adjusts for traction, helping to maximize power where it's need and minimize it where it is not. It very much helps control on slippery roads.

4WD kind of helps in that all tires have power instead of two, which helps even out traction loss a bit, since it means less power on each tire. It's not as effective as AWD, but it's still better.

meh. to an extent. tires are still the more determining factor