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Originally posted by Pithy Radish
You lose a lot of money from the moment the car rolls off the lot.

Exactly. Even when Im rolling in money, I'm planning on buying a pre-leased car or something barely used. Signing your name on the paper drops like 20% of the new car's value

http://www.patriotmotorsinc.com/2010-Subaru-Forester/Used-SUV/ColoradoSprings-CO/4941688/Details.aspx

The hailcar FWIW. It doesn't look THAT bad to me

Originally posted by rams78110
http://www.patriotmotorsinc.com/2010-Subaru-Forester/Used-SUV/ColoradoSprings-CO/4941688/Details.aspx

The hailcar FWIW. It doesn't look THAT bad to me

Is its title really salvage? They are claiming it's 'clean' on the website. If it is salvaged I would stay away.

Originally posted by Pithy Radish
Is its title really salvage? They are claiming it's 'clean' on the website. If it is salvaged I would stay away.

http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?partner=DCS_0&vin=JF2SH6AC2AH700202

I went straight to the carfax, didn't even notice they were claiming it was clean. That is shady as fuck by them

Edit: Carfax does allow for the fact that a DMV branded salvage is different than an insurance total loss, a distinction didn't make. Maybe it is clean and it was just the insurance

Originally posted by rams78110
http://www.patriotmotorsinc.com/2010-Subaru-Forester/Used-SUV/ColoradoSprings-CO/4941688/Details.aspx

The hailcar FWIW. It doesn't look THAT bad to me

What is the blue book value on that vehicle with no hail damage?

Originally posted by rams78110
Exactly. Even when Im rolling in money, I'm planning on buying a pre-leased car or something barely used. Signing your name on the paper drops like 20% of the new car's value

I bet you change your mind. I get a GM discount, which essentially pays for taxes and tags, but even without it, by the time you consider the higher rate on a used car loan, it is not usually worth it.

I bought a new dually for the business with 72 months 0% financing. It made no sense to buy a used vehicle and pay 6% over 5 years.

Originally posted by rams78110
http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?partner=DCS_0&vin=JF2SH6AC2AH700202

I went straight to the carfax, didn't even notice they were claiming it was clean. That is shady as fuck by them

It looks like it's a rebuilt title, but my guess is since the insurance company considered it a total loss, there might have been more going on with that car. Yeah, the engine looks clean but who knows what is wrong. It looks like a risky proposition, and before doing ANY buying I would have a mechanic look it over thoroughly. If I were you I would avoid it, though it does look like it had regular maintenance done at a Subaru dealership.

Originally posted by rams78110
http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?partner=DCS_0&vin=JF2SH6AC2AH700202

I went straight to the carfax, didn't even notice they were claiming it was clean. That is shady as fuck by them

Edit: Carfax does allow for the fact that a DMV branded salvage is different than an insurance total loss, a distinction didn't make. Maybe it is clean and it was just the insurance

I don't know about colorado's laws, but in Washington Salvaged Titles, Rebuilt titles and Clean Titles are three different things.

Originally posted by rams78110
http://www.patriotmotorsinc.com/2010-Subaru-Forester/Used-SUV/ColoradoSprings-CO/4941688/Details.aspx

The hailcar FWIW. It doesn't look THAT bad to me

that hood looks pretty dimply to me


for 13k you should be able to get a really nice car. being hung up on AWD will really limit your choices.

Originally posted by foofighter24
What is the blue book value on that vehicle with no hail damage?

15 something

Originally posted by Pithy Radish
I don't know about colorado's laws, but in Washington Salvaged Titles, Rebuilt titles and Clean Titles are three different things.

I think they're different here now that Im looking into it. I kinda assumed they were all the same

Originally posted by foshizzel17
that hood looks pretty dimply to me


for 13k you should be able to get a really nice car. being hung up on AWD will really limit your choices.

AWD or 4WD, FWD if it's an SUV. Living where I live after dealing with a major accident where another car hit me on ice, it's kinda non-negotiable for me to have as good of grip as I can.

Originally posted by foofighter24
I bet you change your mind. I get a GM discount, which essentially pays for taxes and tags, but even without it, by the time you consider the higher rate on a used car loan, it is not usually worth it.

I bought a new dually for the business with 72 months 0% financing. It made no sense to buy a used vehicle and pay 6% over 5 years.

My buddy bought a Honda with only 50k paying around 2%, I also know a guy who bought a Subaru Impreza and is still around 2%. The used car loans don't always have more interest, though it depends on your credit rating.

Originally posted by Pithy Radish
My buddy bought a Honda with only 50k paying around 2%, I also know a guy who bought a Subaru Impresa and is still around 2%. The used car loans don't always have more interest, though it depends on your credit rating.

My bank is being pretty awesome about the whole process. They are just a two-city credit union but they gave me a 4.9% consumer loan since they knew I wouldn't have credit when I got my first car to qualify for a car loan, and they're saying it'll be in the 5-6% area this time for the 2010 I originally had my eye on.

Edit: 4.9% for the $5000 original loan that I paid off, 5-6% for the <$10,000 loan Ill be getting

Originally posted by rams78110
My bank is being pretty awesome about the whole process. They are just a two-city credit union but they gave me a 4.9% consumer loan since they knew I wouldn't have credit when I got my first car to qualify for a car loan, and they're saying it'll be in the 5-6% area this time for the 2010 I originally had my eye on.

Edit: 4.9% for the $5000 original loan that I paid off, 5-6% for the <$10,000 loan Ill be getting

if you're interested in AWD you can also check out Subaru's other offerings such as the plain Subaru Impreza. They are simple cars, but they have AWD, and they're pretty much the lowest priced Subaru car assuming that you don't go with the WRX.