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Originally posted by foshizzel17
rams buys a new POS car about every 2 yrs.

i swear we have had this same convo 2-3x

I did that for the longest time. Just buy a junker and finish it off.

Originally posted by glbisthewaytobe
I did that for the longest time. Just buy a junker and finish it off.

Ever get caught with one? I hear a lot of people say that, but no one ever cops to the time when they got really burned.

Originally posted by glbisthewaytobe
I did that for the longest time. Just buy a junker and finish it off.

I've been driving a 1990 Buick Lesabre for years, two years ago I put over 20,000 miles on the thing in just one year. Has over 200,000 miles, and I bought it for only 500 dollars YEARS ago. I think I at least put over 50,000 dollars on that thing. I also use an old as hell pick up for my job.

Originally posted by Pithy Radish
Body Work looks no bueno. Honestly being a mechanic isn't that great either, but the work you guys do looks back breaking, and very tedious. Aren't body guys also paid on Flat Rate?

I don't do body work. Just went to school for it and worked part time in a body shop for about a year.

Scrubs like painters helpers get paid by the hour. Most of the body techs and painters get paid flat rate. One of the reasons I never went full time. Shop manager would put 4 people on one vehicle and we would have to split up the time. Thank goodness it wasn't my primary job. lol

Originally posted by foshizzel17
rams buys a new POS car about every 2 yrs.

i swear we have had this same convo 2-3x

I think he wants out of that loop. Again, since he's a payment buyer (no matter how much everyone bemoans that type of buyer, its sometimes a necessity), and for the payment and the peace of mind that comes with a LONG warranty, you can't beat low price SUV or FWD sedan like a Hyundai or Kia.

Originally posted by Dub J
I don't do body work. Just went to school for it and worked part time in a body shop for about a year.

Scrubs like painters helpers get paid by the hour. Most of the body techs and painters get paid flat rate. One of the reasons I never went full time. Shop manager would put 4 people on one vehicle and we would have to split up the time. Thank goodness it wasn't my primary job. lol



I've heard that if the guy doing the estimating fucks up, the person basically has to do that extra work for free. I thought flat rate for auto repair was bad, that is much worse.

I hate the days when no cars came into the shop too. I'd essentially sit in that shop, and not get paid a single dime.

And it cost my insurance company over $8,500 to repair hail damage to a car I had (and I was without the car for over a month). And that was with a "big name" insurance company paying a "big name" body shop doing the work. Its not for the feint of heart.

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
I think he wants out of that loop. Again, since he's a payment buyer (no matter how much everyone bemoans that type of buyer, its sometimes a necessity), and for the payment and the peace of mind that comes with a LONG warranty, you can't beat low price SUV or FWD sedan like a Hyundai or Kia.

Until the warranty fucks you over... Again I've seen it time, and time again working at the dealership. After 60k miles the only thing covered on your car is the powertrain, that means engine, and transmission essentially. If a component goes wrong fucks up your engine, that wasn't PART of your engine they can weasel out of it even if it is trashed. I've seen a Toyota dealership get out of warrantying a Prius with a master cylinder failure. That repair? It cost over $3,000. There is a lot of small print in those warranties, and ways they can get around fixing the vehicle. He also lives in an area that has the potential for rust on the undercarriage.... How rust proof are those Hyundai's exactly? That kind of shit can really fuck up your car.

Originally posted by Pithy Radish
I've heard that if the guy doing the estimating fucks up, the person basically has to do that extra work for free.

That's an urban legend. Read the fine print when you sign off to have body work done. Rarely will you find a shop that doesn't have some tiny print that reads you agree to pay the final cost even if it strays from the estimate. Most body shops have to do this because most of the time you will find more damage once you start removing panels/parts. It's unlikely that the estimate will be off much (if any) on something minor like hail damage, though.

The way cars are designed now it's harder to pick up on minor frame damage just by inspecting the vehicle.

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
I think he wants out of that loop. Again, since he's a payment buyer (no matter how much everyone bemoans that type of buyer, its sometimes a necessity), and for the payment and the peace of mind that comes with a LONG warranty, you can't beat low price SUV or FWD sedan like a Hyundai or Kia.

I know I value reliability in a vehicle, and it was even more important when I was younger with less discretionary cash on hand. Paying a couple grand for a vehicle sounds great, until it breaks down and you don't have the money to fix it or get another vehicle.

Originally posted by Dub J
That's an urban legend. Read the fine print when you sign off to have body work done. Rarely will you find a shop that doesn't have some tiny print that reads you agree to pay the final cost even if it strays from the estimate. Most body shops have to do this because most of the time you will find more damage once you start removing panels/parts. It's unlikely that the estimate will be off much (if any) on something minor like hail damage, though.

The way cars are designed now it's harder to pick up on minor frame damage just by inspecting the vehicle.



Yeah, I had no idea how the body shops worked, just something I read. I just know that I would not like to do what they do every day. Before we do extra work we have to get the customers OKAY if anything else is messed up.

Yeah, it's rough work and the industry tends to attract assholes. I've worked in a factory for years and I laugh when I hear people talking about factory people being rough. Most of the people I've worked with in the factory are just regular people like you would meet most anywhere. Most of the body guys I've encountered were egotistical douchebags.

Originally posted by Pithy Radish
YBefore we do extra work we have to get the customers OKAY if anything else is messed up.

With frame work it's a different ballgame. Our boss actually told a few people to send a rollback to pick up their vehicles because he refused to ignore frame damage on their vehicle. It's much worse publicity if you repair a car and someone gets killed than to have that one customer running around bitching about you.

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
I think he wants out of that loop. Again, since he's a payment buyer (no matter how much everyone bemoans that type of buyer, its sometimes a necessity), and for the payment and the peace of mind that comes with a LONG warranty, you can't beat low price SUV or FWD sedan like a Hyundai or Kia.

ive never bought a new car in my life. i make sure to do my due diligence before purchasing a used car though. certified used with at least a year warranty is your best bet. and i never buy anything with more than 50-60k miles on it

Buying a brand new car is stupid.