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Originally posted by rams78110
Looking at cars, finally able to get rid of my shitmobile for something that wont cost me a hundred in repairs every month.

I found a car I mostly like but it has gigantic douche rims and ridiculously small thin tires. Would I be able to ask the dealership to give me normal ones or swap em out with the ones on my car if I trade it in? If I keep them, are they more prone to popping/breaking with potholes everywhere? Would insurance give a dick about the tires?
During negotiations you can throw that in. Say you like the car, but the rims are a dealbreaker for you. Then explain that you would like OEM rims and tires thrown in with the purchase. Depending on the dealership they will oblige. Some dealerships are hard asses, others will bend over backwards to accommodate customers.

Also if the car is used make sure that the dealership has inspected the vehicle. At my dealership a bunch of idiots bubba'd their cars. Us mechanics were responsible for used car inspections, and some dipshits really fucked up their car with stupid modifications that actually posed a threat to vital components in the vehicle. I would inspect the car very carefully, if it has aftermarket rims they may have done other things to the car.

Originally posted by Pithy Radish

During negotiations you can throw that in. Say you like the car, but the rims are a dealbreaker for you. Then explain that you would like OEM rims and tires thrown in with the purchase. Depending on the dealership they will oblige. Some dealerships are hard asses, others will bend over backwards to accommodate customers.

Also if the car is used make sure that the dealership has inspected the vehicle. At my dealership a bunch of idiots bubba'd their cars. Us mechanics were responsible for used car inspections, and some dipshits really fucked up their car with stupid modifications that actually posed a threat to vital components in the vehicle. I would inspect the car very carefully, if it has aftermarket rims they may have done other things to the car.

Ill definitely ask for that. The rims look like something some hoodrat would pay 1K for the set so maybe I could ask for the OEM rims, sell the d-bag rims/tires, and get some service on the car done with the money I'd make. Glad you mentioned throwing them in, I was thinking I'd ask them to swap out the rims I have on my current car if the bolt patterns lined up

Yeah I made that mistake last time I bought the shitmobile I have now. It was an as-is that we paid an extra $89 to have inspected and they basically gave us a vaguely itemized list of things they noticed without mentioning the 15 massive problems with it. I'll just test drive it on down to my mechanic for a full inspection

Originally posted by rams78110
Ill definitely ask for that. The rims look like something some hoodrat would pay 1K for the set so maybe I could ask for the OEM rims, sell the d-bag rims/tires, and get some service on the car done with the money I'd make. Glad you mentioned throwing them in, I was thinking I'd ask them to swap out the rims I have on my current car if the bolt patterns lined up

Yeah I made that mistake last time I bought the shitmobile I have now. It was an as-is that we paid an extra $89 to have inspected and they basically gave us a vaguely itemized list of things they noticed without mentioning the 15 massive problems with it. I'll just test drive it on down to my mechanic for a full inspection

What kind of car is it? Are you buying from a used car dealership or an actual car brand dealership I.E Buick, Toyota, Ford etc?

Originally posted by rams78110
Ill definitely ask for that. The rims look like something some hoodrat would pay 1K for the set so maybe I could ask for the OEM rims, sell the d-bag rims/tires, and get some service on the car done with the money I'd make. Glad you mentioned throwing them in, I was thinking I'd ask them to swap out the rims I have on my current car if the bolt patterns lined up

Yeah I made that mistake last time I bought the shitmobile I have now. It was an as-is that we paid an extra $89 to have inspected and they basically gave us a vaguely itemized list of things they noticed without mentioning the 15 massive problems with it. I'll just test drive it on down to my mechanic for a full inspection

if they give you the stock rims, they aren't gonne let you have the rims that are on it now too

Originally posted by foshizzel17
if they give you the stock rims, they aren't gonne let you have the rims that are on it now too

yeah, probably not. You probably wouldn't even be able to get a substantial amount from them on craigslist anyways.

Originally posted by Pithy Radish
What kind of car is it? Are you buying from a used car dealership or an actual car brand dealership I.E Buick, Toyota, Ford etc?

It's a 2008 Dodge Nitro from a branded Subaru dealership. I may have found a better Subaru from said dealership that might make the rim point moot

Originally posted by rams78110
It's a 2008 Dodge Nitro from a branded Subaru dealership. I may have found a better Subaru from said dealership that might make the rim point moot

Stay away from that Nitro. I've worked on them quite a bit while being self employed. Their brakes seem to wear quickly, they have bad electronics that are poorly designed and prone to breakage that may leave your vehicle inoperable. I don't remember which transmission they have in them, but you always have to be weary of Chrysler transmissions, they STILL have issues even today.

Plus if its a Subaru dealership you may have a hard time getting an OEM tire and rim thrown in. Dealerships get parts and a discount and mark them up substantially. Because it is a Dodge part they may have a hard time getting it for a discount. Subaru's have much better build quality, however they do have one major weak spot and that is their head gasket. Despite this they still are very solid vehicles, its something that is repairable.

Originally posted by Pithy Radish
Stay away from that Nitro. I've worked on them quite a bit while being self employed. Their brakes seem to wear quickly, they have bad electronics that are poorly designed and prone to breakage that may leave your vehicle inoperable. I don't remember which transmission they have in them, but you always have to be weary of Chrysler transmissions, they STILL have issues even today.

Plus if its a Subaru dealership you may have a hard time getting an OEM tire and rim thrown in. Dealerships get parts and a discount and mark them up substantially. Because it is a Dodge part they may have a hard time getting it for a discount. Subaru's have much better build quality, however they do have one major weak spot and that is their head gasket. Despite this they still are very solid vehicles, its something that is repairable.

Thanks for the heads up. CPU/electronics issues on my current car have been so expensive and stressful I'm incredibly weary of cars that have issues in that area.

I've spent my entire driving live in GMC/Chevy vehicles and I'm very used to their engines and costs. Is a Subaru in the same general area? The only thing that makes slightly hesitant to getting a Subie is my familiarity with GMC/Chevy as far as being able to do things myself or being pretty aware of what's wrong with them. Are Subaru engines comparable?

If anyone wants to chime in, Im looking at cars in the 10-15K range. I can afford up to 20K but I dont want to stretch myself so Im setting a limit at 15. The most important things to me are mpg (Im 15 miles from school and 10 miles from work), crash test ratings, and AWD/4WD. I prefer SUVs (anything from fullsize to crossover) but I'd be amenable to a small car if its awd with good mpg.

Originally posted by rams78110
Thanks for the heads up. CPU/electronics issues on my current car have been so expensive and stressful I'm incredibly weary of cars that have issues in that area.

I've spent my entire driving live in GMC/Chevy vehicles and I'm very used to their engines and costs. Is a Subaru in the same general area? The only thing that makes slightly hesitant to getting a Subie is my familiarity with GMC/Chevy as far as being able to do things myself or being pretty aware of what's wrong with them. Are Subaru engines comparable?

Subaru's are much different than GM products. They use 4 cylinder engines that are called boxer engines. These engines are placed on their side instead of sitting upright. Porsche also is known for this style of engine. It gives subaru's a unique feeling when you drive em', and generally their drive train sits low in the chassis giving you a low center of gravity, which makes going on curvy roads FUN!

As far as maintenance goes they are fairly cheap. When they do breakdown parts generally cost more because they're a fairly small company based in Japan. Make sure you have mechanics that have experience with Subaru's in your area. Not everyone knows how to fix them correctly, and they can cause some major headaches if you're not used to working on them. I remember when I first fixed the head gasket on one... Was not fun because of how the engine was configured. Of course you can always take it to the dealership if it breaks.

Overall Subaru's are good cars, but if you buy one I would look over the owners manual. They require different type of care than other vehicles. They don't respond well to aftermarket oil filters for one, if you ever get a subaru ONLY USE OEM Subaru oil filters. That is just one example, but they are very hardy vehicles, electrically they're solid, their transmissions are solid, and their engines are relatively trouble free. Check the oil every now and then for signs of coolant though, like I said their biggest weak point is the head gasket.

By the way, every Subaru now a days comes standard with AWD.

GM's are an interesting case... I feel like a few of their vehicles are very solid, and a few of their vehicles are nightmares waiting to happen. They've had a checkered track record over the last 5 years or so. They've only now just jumped onto the crossover band wagon as well so most of their SUV's are big behemoths,

If you go Ford avoid ecoboost, avoid it will ALL you got. The ecoboost engines have some serious problems. They may be tempting to a car buyer because they give you good gas mileage, and have very good performance, especially for the price. If you see an ecoboost vehicle DON'T buy it.

RAV 4s from Toyota's are good choices. They get good mileage from what I hear and they're pretty reliable, and parts are cheap. You can get them in 4wd although they have a tiny rear differential so I wonder how their offroading capabilities are. If you find one that is from around 2012ish make sure that it doesn't have oil consumption problems. Newer toyota's have piston ring issues, this causes oil to seep up into the piston, and get burned. This is a costly repair that often times means a new engine. Toyota's 4 runners are great vehicles and are highly off road capable, and have BEEFY components. The build quality on these things is very good, though their gas mileage is NOT.

If I were you I would avoid Chrysler like the plague. Most of them have a lot of issues with reliability. Many Chryslers have suspension components that wear out very quickly, and many of their transmissions are will cause you big headaches.

Originally posted by rams78110
If anyone wants to chime in, Im looking at cars in the 10-15K range. I can afford up to 20K but I dont want to stretch myself so Im setting a limit at 15. The most important things to me are mpg (Im 15 miles from school and 10 miles from work), crash test ratings, and AWD/4WD. I prefer SUVs (anything from fullsize to crossover) but I'd be amenable to a small car if its awd with good mpg.

corrolla.
I know it's not awd, but seriously, a good small front wheel drive car with nice snow tires is damned near as good as an awd as long as you know how to drive.
mine's an 06 that I bought 3 years ago with 40k on it. this winter I've been averaging 38mpg.

Originally posted by rams78110
It's a 2008 Dodge Nitro from a branded Subaru dealership. I may have found a better Subaru from said dealership that might make the rim point moot

forget the wheels, have them throw in an extra transmission

Originally posted by rams78110
If anyone wants to chime in, Im looking at cars in the 10-15K range. I can afford up to 20K but I dont want to stretch myself so Im setting a limit at 15. The most important things to me are mpg (Im 15 miles from school and 10 miles from work), crash test ratings, and AWD/4WD. I prefer SUVs (anything from fullsize to crossover) but I'd be amenable to a small car if its awd with good mpg.


Nissan Rogue or Hyundai Tucson. FWD will work just fine in most snow conditions.

That time frame after putting in an offer on a house and waiting to hear back.
It's the worst.

Originally posted by seths99
That time frame after putting in an offer on a house and waiting to hear back.
It's the worst.

Really? I always hate the paperwork. I don't mind waiting.